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Archaeologists Find Oldest Known Mayan Calendar

Posted by samzenpus on from the when-does-it-end? dept.

sciencehabit writes "A team of American researchers has discovered a small trove of ancient Mayan texts in a surprising place. In a paper published online today in Science, researchers report finding Mayan astronomical tables and other texts painted and incised on the walls of a 1200-year-old residential building at the site of Xultún in Guatemala. The newly discovered astronomical tables are at least 500 years older than those preserved in the Maya codices, giving researchers a new glimpse of science at the height of the Maya civilization. 'I think we are all astonished by this find,' says Stephen Houston, an archaeologist at Brown University who was not part of the team."

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  1. just another reason to hate jesus freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if those franciscan pricks hadn't torched all of the maya records we wouldn't have to try and decipher this shit off some half-buried wall. all of it was well preserved on codices but the church figured it would be easier to convert them all if they incinerated their cultural history.

    1. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the church figured it would be easier to convert them all if they incinerated their cultural history.

      What? Was the church wrong? Was it harder to convert them without their cultural history?

    2. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right, like when the allies drove into Berlin and ... wait, Like when Hussein was finally overthrown and they tore down..umm, I mean when Pol Pot moved into town and everyone lived happily ever...Nah.
      Conquerors generally don't give a damn about your new world order views, they tend to implement their own.

    3. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, I mean the ancient statues in Egypt. Before you call people "pathetic trolls" maybe you should learn basic history. You do realize Egypt was not originally an Arab country? They are colonizers just like the Spanish Catholics in Mesoamerica. When the muslims conquered Egypt they smashed the faces off any "idols" they could find in an iconoclastic orgy. Monotheistic fanatics are authoritarian and violent no matter which brand or logo they operate under. Deal with it.

    4. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wrong about... it being easier to convert a people after destroying their culture? Well.. probably not.

      But... wrong about destroying a people's culture in order to convert them to a different opinion? Yeah. Fucking wrong.

    5. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by lordholm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is quite OK to destroy statues of Stalin and Lenin in the eastern parts of Europe as there are still people around who suffered from those bastard's reign. However, it would not be OK to destroy them if they where 2000 years old. Whatever you think, it is not OK to destroy 2000 year old statues of Julius Caesar in France, even though the guy was responsible for killing off something like a quarter of the local Gauls.

      It may also be understandable if the statues where old, but symbolizing an oppressor that just left. If the Buddhists would have ruled and oppressed the Afghans until say 20 years ago, it would be understandable that the statues where destroyed during the processes of liberation (not nice, but understandable). As it stands however, Afghanistan has been islamic for a very very long time. Destroying the statues this long after, is thus just simply put a crime against our common cultural heritage.

      It is not so much about priorities, being poor is no excuse for actively ruining such a site, it would be an excuse for letting it slowly crumble due to the lack of maintenance however.

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      "Civis Europaeus sum!"
    6. Re:just another reason to hate jesus freaks by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Muslims weren't always extremists, that happened after Brittian, France and US decided to chop up the Ottoman empire "so it didn't pose a threat". That backfired didn't it?

      You're right. When a Taliban enforcer drags a school teacher out into the town square that used to be a soccer field before they banned playing soccer, and shoots her in the head because she has offended Allah by encouraging girls to think, that is definitely the fault of western civilization. No question.

      What the hell is wrong with you?

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      Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
  2. Re:Pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let me cowardly start this one

    http://www.khanacademy.org/math/vi-hart/v/doodling-in-math--spirals--fibonacci--and-being-a-plant--1-of-3
    http://www.khanacademy.org/math/vi-hart/v/doodling-in-math-class--spirals--fibonacci--and-being-a-plant--2-of-3
    http://www.khanacademy.org/math/vi-hart/v/doodling-in-math--spirals--fibonacci--and-being-a-plant--part-3-of-3

    What if these numbers natural numbers are simply how nature works and anything else would be a conspiracy!

    Smart people still lurk here.