Geekbench Confirms Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro and iMac

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Geekbench Confirms Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro and iMac

Posted by samzenpus on Monday May 14, 2012 @04:54AM from the brand-spanking-new dept.

An anonymous reader writes "It was inevitable that Intel launching the 22nm Ivy Bridge processors would lead to Apple using them in its laptops and desktop machines. While Apple never leaks details early, someone using pre-release hardware has managed to upload details of the new machine to Geekbench's database. We can definitely expect a Core i7 Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro and iMac later this year."

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No ethernet... by fewnorms · 2012-05-14 04:59 · Score: 3, Insightful

Which is a major downside to all of this news for us in companies.

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1. Re:No ethernet... by Lunix+Nutcase · 2012-05-14 05:12 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Yes, because the replacement for gigabit ethernet is vastly slower WiFi. You're kidding, right?
2. Re:No ethernet... by Imagix · 2012-05-14 05:14 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Or Thunderbolt. Apple even has a TB monitor with an embedded ethernet port, as well as a power supply for the laptop.
3. Re:No ethernet... by Chuck+Milam · 2012-05-14 05:14 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  The kind that does not allow WiFi for security reasons.
4. Re:No ethernet... by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-05-14 05:16 · Score: 2
  
  What kind of shitty company do you work at that doesn't have WiFi?
  Well, the wifi where I work now is over-saturated and doesn't work so well. But that's immaterial because my company doesn't let you hit our network from the wifi, you can only go out to the internet on t.
  Oh, and lots of places don't actually have wifi, it has nothing to do with the shittiness of the company.
  
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5. Re:No ethernet... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-05-14 05:16 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  If there is heavy bandwidth use, wifi is a nightmare. Remember its half the speed of 100 mbit, and its shared. Then if you are in an office building the wifi is crap by itself since every's wifi on your floor plus 7 above and below interferes with your wifi (yes there are several channels but you should be able to see how easily all channels get occupied).
  My last job had both, I'd regularly have to go plug in so I didn't have to wait forever for some large files to transfer.
6. Re:No ethernet... by h4rr4r · 2012-05-14 05:23 · Score: 2
  
  How often do you really need gigabit?
  I use a macbook air at work and it seems fine. I do any heavy lifting on servers anyway, no laptop is going to compete with 4 Xeons anyway.
7. Re:No ethernet... by vlm · 2012-05-14 05:29 · Score: 2
  
  Latency can be a huge issue. Sure, we got wifi. No we don't trust sensitive data over the air, so you gotta use the wifi, out to the internet, into the VPN concentrator... the corporate VPN concentrator... on the other side of the country... So to VNC into a local server you get millisecond latency connections over wired, or hundred ms (sometimes more) latency over the wifi. Yuck.
  
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8. Re:No ethernet... by MightyYar · 2012-05-14 05:37 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Remote X11 to servers you don't control is still waaaay faster on a wire.
  So are backups. And if you use the folder/drive sharing feature of RDC, this is way more usable using a wire.
  Plus, wireless degrades less gracefully with multiple users and I find the wire to be more reliable in general.
  
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9. Re:No ethernet... by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-05-14 05:55 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  How often do you really need gigabit?
  I frequently pull a gigabyte of data over the network to my laptop to open a scene. In my case, it wouldn't be a 'pro' laptop without an ethernet port.
  YMMV.
  
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10. Re:No ethernet... by Y-Crate · 2012-05-14 06:07 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  How often do you really need gigabit?
  Almost anyone working in media production will likely answer "Every day".
  WiFi isn't a solution when users are transferring 300GB+ at a time over the network.
11. Re:No ethernet... by the_B0fh · 2012-05-14 06:12 · Score: 2
  
  I thought about that. Then I thought about my usage patterns - TBolt display at work, with GigE to my TBolt display, and wireless everywhere else.
  Also, while USB->Ethernet sucks, TBolt -> GigE adapter would work for me. Hell, with TBolt, we can do TBolt -> 10GigE
12. Re:No ethernet... by gnasher719 · 2012-05-14 06:42 · Score: 2
  
  If there is heavy bandwidth use, wifi is a nightmare. Remember its half the speed of 100 mbit, and its shared. Then if you are in an office building the wifi is crap by itself since every's wifi on your floor plus 7 above and below interferes with your wifi (yes there are several channels but you should be able to see how easily all channels get occupied).
  As I'm getting older, I can't see this as a "nightmare". A "nightmare" is when I have to run around and fix the problem. This is the exact opposite - I can sit down and relax until the file transfer has finished. Not my fault if it takes a while :-)
13. Re:No ethernet... by hairyfeet · 2012-05-14 06:59 · Score: 2
  
  Uhhh...I hate to break the news to ya friend but when Apple turned FCP into iMovie pro it was pretty obvious, at least to me, they are trying to ditch their "pro" users.
  If you think about it it makes sense....where does Apple get the highest margins? Where do they get the most profits? That would be consumer devices like the iPad and iPhone. With those devices they own everything from the chip up so when and how updates to the line are carried out is controlled by Apple. that is not the case in X86 because if Apple left Intel for AMD tomorrow it wouldn't even rate a blip on Intel's radar as they are simply too massive. Look at Intel slitting Nvidia's throat in the chipset market which hurt Apple because they used more powerful Nvidia chipsets with Intel CPUs. Can't do that now and Intel frankly didn't care whether that move affected Apple or not because again Apple is small potatoes in X86.
  So I wouldn't be surprised if Apple releases one or two more X86 models before Cook holds a press conference and declares the iPad the "new mac" and that will be the end of that. They may keep the bottom of the line Macbook and iMac because they can keep the upgrade schedule positively anemic and not really hurt sales in that sector. Home users frankly aren't even using half the power of current multicores so whether a chip is 2 years old or not won't really matter to that market.
  But that isn't the pro market, just the opposite. the pros NEED the fastest chips because they are creating and editing HD content and that kind of work stresses the hell out of a system. That is why i think they are dropping features and programs that pros use as it costs too much time and effort for too small a niche.
  Anyway if the rumors are true and they toss Ethernet we will know that is the direction they are going as USB and WiFi is just too damned slow for high def content creation.
  
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Re:Wake up by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-05-14 05:32 · Score: 3, Interesting

There are persistent rumors that Apple is going to 'airify' their MacBook Pro line. Following that line of thought, it's assumed that they'll take it to the extreme and not include an ethernet port.
Personally, I think it makes sense that some would think that. But I think they'll realize they'll have trouble calling it a 'pro' laptop without an ethernet port. That said, it is something I'd be double checking for once it's announced.
No harm done.

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Why is this even remotely interesting? by CAIMLAS · 2012-05-14 06:11 · Score: 3, Insightful

Why is this even remotely interesting? We know Intel has released Ivy Bridge. We know there are other companies already using Ivy Bridge. Apple's current offerings are a generation or two behind the existing status quo for high-end hardware on the laptop/desktop market. It is a no brainer that, yes, Apple would also use the next generation of hardware, too.
This is not even remotely news worthy (though it might be for macrumours.com or whatever). Now, if they were changing architectures back to PPC or to ARM on the desktop, that might be something worth talking about!

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1. Re:Why is this even remotely interesting? by UnknowingFool · 2012-05-14 06:26 · Score: 2
  
  Generally, some of the Intel processors the MacBooks use precedes not lags the current generation of mobile chips as Apple normally works extensively with Intel so that they have a head start from other competitors. In the past, Apple used stepped down Core 2 chips for power savings. Where Apple normally lags is that they don't refresh as often as their competitors. The MacBook Air concept in itself is what Intel is now calling "ultrabook" specifications. In other aspects like Thunderbolt, Apple is ahead of competitors by a year. It's news as it gives us a peak at what mobile chips may be coming out that Intel hasn't announced.
  
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Not giving up anything, and the gain is larger by SuperKendall · 2012-05-14 08:36 · Score: 2

Gigabit Ethernet is currently faster than any wireless than I know of yet if Apple says "You don't need that" we get dozens of posts saying "They must be right! Apple is genius!"
Apple is not saying "you don't need it". They are saying "most people do not need it, and those that do can still use it".
I have GigE on my current Powerbook. I use it perhaps six times a year. Obviously if they git rid or the port I would not care much, and I am a highly technical user - most users would simply never miss it.
For the very few times I would like GigE I'd either use Thunderbolt or USB adaptors. What is so bad about that, to remove the cost and weight of a component that a huge percentage of your users will not want or need day to day?
why would you give up Gigabit Ethernet for less than a 16th of an inch?
Why would you NOT. It's not like you are gaining only a 16th of an inch. The rumors are that the new Powerbooks across the line get the Air treatment, which means about half the current thickness. That is a HUGE savings in space and weight, especially if you travel or walk with your laptop much and have the 17" model. Removing an ethernet port is just one part of an across the board reduction.
And again, it's not GIVING UP anything. It's just removing it from the base configuration.

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Re:Wake UP!!!!!!!! by jbolden · 2012-05-14 11:42 · Score: 2

Apple is not Dell. They aren't into "build you own your way". They design quality balanced systems. They drive their entire platform which reduces complexity for software vendors and users. If you want something outside the norm, they have wonderful solution you just pay a premium.
They are not into maximum choice, they are into good choices.