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Canada's Internet Surveillance Bill: Not Dead After All
First time accepted submitter Maow writes "Despite a recent story claiming that Canada's Bill C-30, covering internet surveillance, has died a 'lonely' death, the minister responsible claims otherwise. 'Public Safety Minister Vic Toews is denying reports that the Harper government intends to quietly shelve its controversial online surveillance bill, C-30.' Speaking to reporters on Wednesday morning, Toews insisted the legislation was moving ahead. He has previously stated this is the bill that you either support, 'or you stand with the child pornographers.'"
He has previously stated this is the bill that you either support, 'or you stand with the child pornographers.'"
How lame. He needs to spice this up: Either you support his bill, or you are a child pornographer.
Now that has some zing.
What an absolute fucking douchebag this guy is...
Also, judging from the picture in TFA, very likely a comic book supervillian as well...
Dr. Douche? Fagneto? Somebody help me out here...
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
Come on... the submitter should have been able to slip in the Python reference; it's extremely apt under the circumstances.
Speaker of the House: Bring out yer dead! [opposition puts a bill in the bin, unaware of the fact that the bill is actually in discussion]
The Opposition: Here's one.
Speaker of the House: That'll be ninepence.
Bill C-30: I'm not dead.
Speaker of the House: What?
The Opposition: Nothing. [hands the collector his money] There's your ninepence.
Bill C-30: I'm not dead!
Speaker of the House: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
The Opposition: Yes he is.
Bill C-30: I'm not.
Speaker of the House: He isn't.
The Opposition: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Bill C-30: I'm getting better.
The Opposition: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
Speaker of the House: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
Bill C-30: I don't want to go on the cart.
The Opposition: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Speaker of the House: I can't take him.
Bill C-30: I feel fine.
The Opposition: Oh, do me a favor.
Speaker of the House: I can't.
The Opposition: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
Speaker of the House: I promised I'd be at the Liberals'. They've lost nine today.
The Opposition: Well, when's your next round?
Speaker of the House: Thursday.
Bill C-30: I think I'll go for a walk.
The Opposition: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
Bill C-30: I feel happy. I feel happy. [The Speaker glances up and down the commons furtively, then whacks the bill with the his mace, solving the problem]
The Opposition: Ah, thank you very much.
Speaker of the House: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
The Opposition: Right.
He has previously stated this is the bill that you either support, 'or you stand with the child pornographers.'"
Damn, Vic -- must be tough. Most people actually think you are a greater threat than a child pornographer. I mean, I think you are a wildly irrational authoritarian with far more power to harm the Canadian populace than any person with your mind-set should have, but.... well... OK, maybe they're right. I guess you are more of a threat than a child pornographer.
Heh, I guess, maybe you should be careful with the comparisons you draw. You might just wind up on the wrong side.
Stop-Prism.org: Opt Out of Surveillance
Funny how people often use the excuse "think of the children" when asking you to give up your rights and freedoms.
I am thinking of the children. Children who will one day not enjoy the rights I had if I do not fight for those rights today.
The Nazi child pornographers must be having a tough time picking a side in this debate.
Are you for mandantory searches of all homes? No? So you stand with the child pornographers.
Are you for mandantory screening of all letters and packages? No? So you stand with the child pornographers.
Are you for mandantory monitoring of all private places? No? So you stand with the child pornographers.
If enough people state publicly that he obviously stands with the child pornographers, maybe his bill will lose support.
What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Yup, things are surely working out in the Canadian Parliament. What can you expect when these retards get a majority. (In case you couldn't figure it out, he is talking about format shifting, which will probably become illegal after C-11 gets it 3rd and final reading sometime soon.)
Society use your Sciences
The condescending attitude of the government is beginning to bother most people. I personally don't like being talked down to by idiots.
Nah - Toews has it covered either way. Just like when he was banging the baby-sitter. Christian confession, everything okay, all is forgiven. Repeat a few years later, same routine. Fascists have no problem seeing themselves as "special exceptions."
Let's call it what it is, Anti-Social Media.
The Real Problem with Bill C_30 is Sections 33/34:
Vic's Asst. 1: So have we had any luck tracing that person who sent those emails or who he is working with. You know the other people he has been in contact with.
Vic's Asst. 2: Nope. All we have is the email address but that does give us the name of their ISP.
Vic's Asst. 1: OK so get a warrant for that ISP and find who it was that sent it along with who he is working with.
Vic's Asst. 2: Can't do that. What was done was not a criminal act.
Vic's Asst. 3: Well then how about this. We get the Minister to appoint someone we trust as his agent as per Section 33 to check out this ISP for compliance to Bill C-30. They go there and then once they are in the ISP's premises we use Section 34, which states he can make copies of 'any' information found at the site regardless of where it is stored, to get everything. That gives us all the ISP's user account data as well as the contents of all current user emails, instant messages, voice over IP conversations as well as all the system backups which will contain everything even if has been deleted by the users. Then we bring it all back here and go through it at our leisure looking for 'compliance violations'.
Vic's Asst. 1: And that is legal?
Vic's Asst. 3: Getting it yes, mind you searching it could get the Minister into trouble but then hey isn't what Senate appointments are for.
Vic's Asst. 1: Ok then, works for me.
Undetectable Steganography? Yep, there's an app fo
Perhaps before this guy opened his mouth, rather than trying to let it die a quiet death, they were trying to quietly pass it.
in response to mr toews comment "this is the bill that you either support, 'or you stand with the child pornographers.'".
Life isn't black and white. It's a million shades of grey.
what mr toews needs to learn here is that there is at least one more opinion: i do not support child pornography and i do not support a surveillance society.
govts all over the world - stop giving us these black and white choices. it ain't that easy.
Seems like we shoud resume the "Tell Vic Everything" campaign. If Vic is really that interested in spying on everyone, then make it easier for him.
- Add @ToewsVic to every tweet you send.
- Start posting your breakfast details on his Facebook page.
- CC him on every email you send using all his addresses (note they made him new ones after the last campaign - vic.toews@parl.gc.ca / toewsv1@parl.gc.ca / Toews.V@parl.gc.ca )
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/02/16/pol-twitter-tell-vic-everything.html