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New Jersey Mayor and Son Arrested For Nuking Recall Website

phaedrus5001 writes "The mayor of West New York, New Jersey was arrested by the FBI after he and his son illegally took down a website that was calling for the recall of mayor Felix Roque (the site is currently down). From the article: 'According to the account of FBI Special Agent Ignace Ertilus, Felix and Joseph Roque took a keen interest in the recall site as early as February. In an attempt to learn the identity of the person behind the site, the younger Roque set up an e-mail account under a fictitious name and contacted an address listed on the website. He offered some "very good leads" if the person would agree to meet him. When the requests were repeatedly rebuffed, Joseph Rogue allegedly tried another route. He pointed his browser to Google and typed the search strings "hacking a Go Daddy Site," "recallroque log-in," and "html hacking tutorial."'"

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  1. Should have used Duck Duck Go by evilRhino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Using Google for criminal enterprises is bad news bears.

    1. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Funny

      They probably figured out his search history by using his local browser history when they would have confiscated his PC as evidence. So that wouldn't have helped. Also... "recallroque log-in"? Ha, I guess some people really do think Google is magic and can pull answers out of thin air. And "html hacking tutorial"? That's almost cute.

    2. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by stanlyb · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nope, you are wrong, they figured out his search history directly at the source. With other words: GOOGLE. Oh, and btw, if you try to search for something illegal, at least have the intelligence to do it from brand new (or stolen) computer, without any ID already entered, with just created email accounts, from any "Free" wireless spot, and once you are done, you better burn this computer. Just an advice....

    3. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by ClioCJS · · Score: 2

      Or just use TOR. And don't say "tor can be compromised". That's only true if they are already monitoring you. if you're doing something you've told nobody about and not already being monitored, you're fine.

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    4. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by HeckRuler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If only the CEO of google, Eric Schmidt, had reminded us that they're bound by the law to hand over information to the authorities.

      Remind me again why he was lambasted for that?

    5. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by sortadan · · Score: 2

      Google is actually good about publishing this data (much more than any other company I know of online). Would be good if they broke it down further by requester and state, but at least you get an idea from last years data: 5950 requests, complied with 93%, disclosed info on 11057 users. http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/userdatarequests/US/?p=2011-06

    6. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by shiftless · · Score: 2

      Because these days the law is pretty much nothing more than someone with a lot of money and power says it is. Especially when one is Google. What do you think would happen if Schmidt said instead loudly and publicly, "No, Federal Government, we're not giving you a god damned thing without a proper warrant, etc....oh, and if you try to force us, well....we just might leave the country or seriously degrade our services here for you and your cronies, in the name of Freedom, Liberty, etc." ?

      Do you really think the Federal Government would win that one in any court, let alone the one of public opinion?

    7. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by Grygus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes.

    8. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Yehs, that's why someone with money and power was just arrested.

      I know what would have happened, the feds would go get a warrant. assuming they didn't have one.

      I know in your world of black helicopters, Illuminati, and reptile overlords something bad would happen. Fortunately most of us play in the real world.

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    9. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or just use TOR. And don't say "tor can be compromised". That's only true if they are already monitoring you.

      ...unless you happen to pass through an FBI-run exit node.

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    10. Re:Should have used Duck Duck Go by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

          Your traffic will usually give you away. For example, leaving your mail, IM, or other still things with identifiers, while connected to Tor can route your traffic over it.

          I once figured out who was on an open wifi, because they had some silly Windows applet running that sent their email address as their ID. They probably never thought twice about it, or the fact that they had connected to someone's wifi that was left open (someone else told them it was "easier" that way). I enabled encryption, and then sent them an email suggesting that they use their own line. :)

          Most people don't set themselves up with a clean environment to do such things.

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  2. Forgot something by Sparticus789 · · Score: 2

    The kid should have searched "Tor" while he was at it. That would have kept the FBI occupied for a few more weeks.

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  3. Quick, someone call the cops! by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's going to hack into our div tags!

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    1. Re:Quick, someone call the cops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      shit! that's where I keep all my spans!

  4. Genius! by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Funny

    Googling for "recallroque log-in" is just pure genius. Why hack if google will just point you straight to the credentials you need!

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    1. Re:Genius! by 3nails4aFalseProphet · · Score: 2

      It's kinda sad what a few Google searches can turn up. http://www.hackersforcharity.org/ghdb/ Of course, searching from his own computer wasn't exactly bright.

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  5. Actually... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Try searching for, "This document is confidential" on Google. You would be surprised by what sort of things turn up.

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    1. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      0 ?

    2. Re:Actually... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That how I get the non public face email account to CEOs.
      It's funny when you send an email to a CEO, then get a call from the VP to take care of the issue. Lat time I did it, the issue was solved in a day, and they had to change global websites.

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  6. That's all? by meerling · · Score: 3, Interesting

    " three counts of intentionally accessing computers without authorization or intentionally causing damage to a protected computer"

    You'd think the threats and other stuff would kick on a few other charges than those. ianal but I bet even I could find at least a half dozen additional things to nail them with.

    I wonder if they'll let him keep his job. (Politics are bizarre.)

  7. Re:So easy to get search terms from google by alfoolio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At first glance the FBI seems overkill but the 'relatively minor case' involved an elected official engaged in federal crimes. That pretty much is right in the FBI's bailiwick.

  8. Re:So easy to get search terms from google by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where do you think the term "warrantles searches" came from? Judge Napolitano can't stop talking about them.

    The U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act gave the FBI the power to write their own permission to enter a premise, or demand data, without a judge issued warrant. CISPA will make it even easier. No need for paperwork at all.

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  9. Minor? by oGMo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suppression of free political speech and intimidation by an elected official is a "minor case"? If so, it shouldn't be.

    That said, I have to wonder if this wasn't a corruption investigation by the FBI in the first place, though you'd think if it was, they'd jump at the opportunity to "meet".

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  10. Re:So easy to get search terms from google by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see...
    A politician who performs an obviously illegal act in full violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution - check.
    A politician who tries nuking a website/server that is parked somewhere across state lines - check.

    Yep. I can see a good warrant coming off of this one. And given the interstate angle, it's not odd at all.

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  11. Meme warning by Chemisor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. Now every website hacking attempt would be called "going rogue". All "roguelike" discussions will be censored and prosecuted. And God help you if you are found in possession of a certain amulet...

  12. Re:from whom? by Jeng · · Score: 2

    You can ask google to not save your searches.

    You can recover searches from a computer if you have physical access to the computer as long as the person didn't do any wipes.

    At no point in the story does it say where the information about searches was recovered from. So yes, it is possible that the authorities contacted google and the got the information, but more likely they just got it off the computer.

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  13. good thing by sdnoob · · Score: 2

    the web site won't be needed anymore.... that town will get their new mayor one way or another (recall or resignation)

    the best part about this story though is that this idiot got into office on a recall election that ousted the town's previous mayor.

    1. Re:good thing by rrohbeck · · Score: 4, Funny

      1. Set up a honeypot with a web front that calls for the recall of a politician you don't like
      2. Wait for it to be attacked by that politician
      3. Tell the FBI
      4. Lulz!

  14. More importantly...Don't phone "Victim 1" after. by Lashat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This article indicates that Roque the Younger called "Victim 1" to 'say that the page had been taken down by “high government officials and that everyone would pay for getting involved against Mayor Roque.” '

    Now that is poor hacking skills!

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76723.html

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  15. Re:Slashdot down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    They messed up the link when it was first posted. It's fixed now.

    Geez... slashdot's editors screw up once in 15 years and you're all over it. Cut them some slack. Do you expect them to get the summary perfect every time?

  16. Re:Party afiliation not important by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Funny

    You left out the bit about how lefties are all godless blasphemers who want to destroy the natural order of the world by allowing women to go around with their heads uncovered or even drive cars.

  17. Re:Party afiliation not important by toadlife · · Score: 2
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  18. Hacking is an Art by medv4380 · · Score: 2

    I bet the how to hack go daddy left out the important steps. Don't use a computer you normally use. Don't use your Home IP or any IP that can be traced to you. Go out the the middle of nowhere suburbia find an Open WiFi, and never go back there after you're done. And use as many proxies between you and them as you can. That's what makes hacking an art. Any script kiddy can run a Wipe Out a Go Daddy web site script, but can they do that and not get caught.

  19. Re:Party afiliation not important by scot4875 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Democrats attack their own when they do stupid shit like this. Republicans attack their own when they do something as unbelievable as suggesting that, hey, maybe gay marriage won't destroy the nation, or that maybe taxing the people who have all the money isn't socialism.

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  20. Name that Party! by zioncat · · Score: 2

    A negative story about politician doesn't provide political affiliation of said politician?
    It's time to play the classic game of: Name that Party.

    1. Re:Name that Party! by artor3 · · Score: 2

      1) The guy is mayor of a town of 1 square mile. There are more people in most universities than in this guy's town. You really think any party big-wigs even know he exists?
      2) He got his seat by running as an independent against a Democrat, so if you're obsessed with labels, he'd be a left-leaning independent.
      3) Based on Wikipedia, he's buddy-buddy with Chris Christie, so he's not even that left-leaning (note: Christie probably doesn't give two shits about this bush league yokel)

      Stop obsessing over party affiliation so much. At the federal level, it's important. At the state level, less so. At the local level, not in the slightest.

  21. Re:Party afiliation not important by jkauzlar · · Score: 2

    He's the mayor of a "small New Jersey hamlet" whose closest advisor seems to be his 22 year old son. I doubt party affiliation means much of anything.

  22. Re:So easy to get search terms from google by lennier · · Score: 4, Funny

    The U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act

    You know, I always wondered why they named a key piece of legislation "U Sap at Riot".

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  23. Re:So you've never heard of Cory Booker. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    What kool aid? The pubs have done that many, many times. Huntsman was all but castrated for saying the world is older the 6000 years.
    There is a long line of people being destroyed by the pub party for not goose stepping to the party line.
    This isn't opinion. It's a sad, sad fact.

    I'm not sure how you're links apply to the quote.

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  24. Security? by increment1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Checked GoDaddy whois, and the domain was registered using their Domains by Proxy service to hide the registrant. This seems to imply that Domains By Proxy was hacked / socially engineered in order to compromise the account. Worse, it appears that this was accomplished by someone with little to no computer or hacking experience.

    The article does not go into detail about how the hack was actually accomplished, other than mentioning it was via a reset email. I am curious what this actually means for the security of domain names registered on GoDaddy using Domains By Proxy. Are they truly that easy to hack?

    I tend to register all of my domains using the proxy service simply to avoid spam in my inbox.

  25. Re:Party afiliation not important by penix1 · · Score: 2

    What makes this story news is that the FBI arrested him, not the fact that he is a corrupt Democratic politician, so there is no reason to mention his party affiliation.

    Exactly. The point is both parties are an evil duopoly that are allowed to fester with decisions like Citizen's United. A politician these days spends many more hours raising funds than they spend doing their Constitutionally mandated job. I know many that have taken the attitude of "if I never heard of you you get my vote!" that is why here in West Virginia a convicted felon in a Texas prison garnered 48% of the Democratic vote. That and the fact that not one of our Democratic leaders in Congress or the Governor himself, also a Democrat, supports President Obama. But that has more to do with coal and the EPA than anything else.

    Anyway, coming from a state that is controlled for the past 35 years by Democrats has lead to some of the most egregious criminal acts. Just the past election has one county where 125% of the population cast votes. Lots going to prison over that. Suffice it to say that both parties are rotten especially if they are incumbents.

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  26. Why the surprise? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I looked him up expecting to see he was an R and was quite surprised

    That doesn't make any sense.

    If you look over the last few years, consistently it's been Democrats doing things like stuffing freezers full of cash, sexting women inappropriately, sending guns to Mexican drug lords.

    It's been liberal Occupy protestors pillaging SF, setting fire to Oakland, pooping on cars.

    So when you hear about politicians caught in some illegal act, recent history teaches us it's really far likely to be Democrats, who for years now have shown they believe themselves to be above the law - because after all they are there to help you, and if laws get in the way of control over you well then guess which has to go?

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    1. Re:Why the surprise? by artor3 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Bullshit. Just off the top of my head, there was David Vitter, who got caught with prostitutes, and Mark Sanford, the guy who went "hiking" with his not-wife from Argentina. Both definitely worse than sexting women who were willing participants (Weiner's "crime"). And yet neither was run out of office. Why? Because Republicans don't give a shit about morals when it would put them at a disadvantage.

      Of course, if you get all your news from Fox and similar propaganda outlets, you'd be likely to believe that only Democrats get caught in scandals. Maybe you should step away from the bullshit spewers before you become one of them. That is, if it's not already too late.