When Antivirus Scammers Call the Wrong Guy
ancientribe writes "Phony AV scammers posing as Microsoft dialed the wrong number when they inadvertently phoned a security researcher at home. He lured them into a honeypot to study their actions, and posted the video online here. His main takeaway: they were 'Stone Age' when it came to their tech know-how."
So they're exactly like Norton, McAfee, and CA?
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
the call is coming from inside the house!
There are much better outlets for exceptional scammers and thieves; politics and wall street seem popular right now.
On some phone systems (for example Luxembourg during the eighties), only the caller can hang up a line.
cpu6502, do you remember if you were in Luxembourg in the eighties when this happened?
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I have a rule for dealing with telemarketers - if they admit they're telemarketing right away, I'll nicely tell them I'm not interested. If they lie, then anything goes. Here's what happened to someone that called me from a "security company:"
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Her: Is the business owner there?
Me: Are you telemarketing?
Her: No.
Me: Ok, this is the owner, how can I help you?
Her: Are you aware of the security threats faced by businesses that use the internet?
Me: Oh, yes, I'm well aware of threats. There are all sorts of threats when you're in business.
Her: Does your business use PCs?
Me: Security is a big problem, lawsuits.
Her: Ok, well, we offer a comprehensive...
Me: Because you know, you can be sued for all sorts of things. Employers can be sued by their employees. Business owners have to be very careful.
Her: (Trying to get back to her script) Yes, I'm aware of that. Well anyway, if your business is one of the millions...
Me: For instance, sexual harassment lawsuits, those are a huge concern if you're in business.
Her: I don't think that's
Me: Do you realize that people can sue their employer for harassment just because they receive unwanted sexual advances while at work?
Her: No, I didn't, but...
Me: (whispering) So... what are you wearing?
I had a call from these guys once.
I set up a new user account in Ubuntu, and then ran the remote access software they asked me to download in Wine.
The remote software sort of started to work, and connected to something their end, but didn't work enough to give any desktop access.
I was running wireshark too, so could see which IP addresses it was talking to.
So, I just kept babbling stuff, and pretending I did not know how to set up the remote access software properly. Then I started dropping hints about 'the base firewall' and 'asking the officer on duty' to make it seem like I was on a militery base. Then I said that the commander of the computer section wanted to talk the them, and the phone went dead.
Time kept on line:
2 days ago: 53 mins
months ago: 1hr 47mins
Useful lines ... ... it takes literally 10mins to boot" (make 'em wait 10mins) ... 10mins ... 10mins ... 5 mins ... 10mins
"I've got my credit card and I really need your help"
"yeah, I think it has a virus
"oh, you meant the PC, not the Mac, hold on"
"The screen has gone blue and it's crashed... I'll reboot"
"Someone's at the door, I'll be back"
"My wife turned it off while I was downstairs, sorry"
"I bought a ferrari last week, I got a yellow one. Do you like ferraris"...5 mins
"What's your job? I break legs for a living" (at this point they got suspicious)
One time I got a call from a guy trying to sell a travel service. I try to be polite, since my wife did telemarketing to get through school.
"How often do you travel?"
"I can not leave the country at this time."
"Uh, okay, what about your family, kids?"
"They are quite young, so they wouldn't travel without a parent."
"Okay, what about your wife?"
"I have been advised by my lawyer not to answer any questions about the whereabouts of my wife."
"..."
"..."
"You, uh, you have a good night sir."
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ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
I'm going to setup a VM with a desktop showing me raping Shiva, shooting and dismembering a cow while holding the Pakistani flag and taking a shit on a set of cricket stumps. The audio would be interesting.