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Battle Brewing Over Labeling of Genetically Modified Food

gollum123 writes with this excerpt from the NY Times: "For more than a decade, almost all processed foods in the United States — cereals, snack foods, salad dressings — have contained ingredients from plants whose DNA was manipulated in a laboratory. Regulators and many scientists say these pose no danger. But as Americans ask more pointed questions about what they are eating, popular suspicions about the health and environmental effects of biotechnology are fueling a movement to require that food from genetically modified crops be labeled, if not eliminated. The most closely watched labeling effort is a proposed ballot initiative in California that cleared a crucial hurdle this month, setting the stage for a probable November vote that could influence not just food packaging but the future of American agriculture. Tens of millions of dollars are expected to be spent on the election showdown. It pits consumer groups and the organic food industry, both of which support mandatory labeling, against more conventional farmers, agricultural biotechnology companies like Monsanto and many of the nation's best-known food brands like Kellogg's and Kraft."

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  1. Monsanto? by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess we all know how this will go down, considering what happened in France. The FDA will step in and overrule any vote

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  2. it's about time by hguorbray · · Score: 5, Informative

    see Food Inc and other documentaries about the pernicious effects of agribusiness

    -I'm just sayin'

  3. but all food is now GM by sneakyimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I applaud the notion, this all overlooks the fact that pollen from Monsanto's GM crops is wind- and insect-borne to even organic farms.

    And what about scientists who say it is harmful?

    1. Re:but all food is now GM by LifesABeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And if your Orange tree is pollinated by one of Monsanto's Frankin Seeds, you get to pay for it. But does Monsanto pay the neighbor if one of Monsanto's Frankin trees is pollinated by a regular seed?

    2. Re:but all food is now GM by HomoErectusDied4U · · Score: 5, Informative

      I agree, it's too late. For example, two out of five different local organic farmers' corn I purchased at the Madison (Wisconsin) Farmers' Market last year came up positive for B. thuringiensis toxin genes. This is not an isolated case; the peer-reviewed literature is replete with examples of transgenic introgression into 'natural' populations. If you want to read more about this, you can start with this nearly-decade old paper that's been cited hundreds of times: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14526376

    3. Re:but all food is now GM by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't want to encourage the kind of monopoly that Monsanto represents. Even if Monsanto has salted everyone else's fields, I would still respond to a label that made it clear that the farmer that grew my food retained the right to save his own seeds.

      This isn't just about the direct impacts of Monsanto franken-foods on my body or the environment. That's certainly important but it is by no means the end of the issue.

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    4. Re:but all food is now GM by Sebastopol · · Score: 5, Informative

      Elbert Dallas Thomason

      http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Monsanto-Beats-LA-Farmer.htm

      Why would a mysterious agriculture department sprout up months after Monsanto threatens a local farmer and illegally takes samples of his crops?

      http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-4048288.html

      Or going after the infrastructure that non-Monsanto farmers require to make a living:

      http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-videos/6-must-see-videos/12161-monsanto-vs-seed-cleaner-moe-parr

      Are you defending Monsanto, or just pointing out that the 400+ patent violation cases instigated by Monsanto that are in the judicial system (as of 1999) and are NOT public record don't count as "monsanto up and suing people"? We can't tell if they are cross-pollenation cases becasue they aren't public record due to uncertain influence of Monsanto at the local level:

      http://grist.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/cfsmonsantovsfarmerreport1.13.05.pdf

      I agree that contract violation is illegal (saving seed and all that). Have you stopped to consider why they sign these contracts that don't allow them to save seed, and force them to buy more each year at increasing prices? Jeez, I'd have to have a gun pointed to my head to sign something so ludicrous. /sarcasm

      I also agree that it should be illegal to extort people into having no choice but to buy from Monsanto or go broke. Because I'm sure you can google, and I'm sure you can find limitless cases where Monsanto bullies and threatens farmers.

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  4. Labelled = Banned by Cassini2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As far as the food industry is concerned, labelling is equivalent to banning genetically modified food.

    As far as I am concerned, if they can't sell it for what it is, then they shouldn't be selling it.

  5. Heath effects is a red herring by subreality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... So please stop lending credence to it. The real concern is creating a crop monoculture engineered to meet Monsanto's short term needs (eg to sell roundup-ready seeds every year, then selling the roundup, etc), and not the long-term needs of society or even just farmers.

  6. Re:Glow in the dark corn... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare individuals presume to obstruct Monsato's right to maximise monopoly corporate profits?

    The right to maximise shareholder value is a founding principal of this nation, and trumps any petty indulgence a person might have about selecting what they ingest.

    Capitalism defeated Communism, you know. That's why it's more important than the Bill of Rights that you pinkos cling to.

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  7. Re:It is labeled if you know what to look for by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Picking corn to use as an example to complain about genetic alterations, now there's an irony. Do you know how many mutations and genetic alterations are in modern corn varieties (and that's completely ignoring genetic engineering), let alone all the transposons hopping around in there? If I've got, for example, a Country Gentleman sweet corn, a Golden Bantam sweet corn, a Blue Jade sweet corn, and a Ruby Queen sweet corn, just by looking at them you can tell they are obviously genetically different. Is only one corn? By your logic, we shouldn't call anything corn anymore. And why should only changes made by genetic engineering count and not everything else I listed?

    Do you know what you get when you add a gene to corn? Corn. It is still corn. It isn't a new species, just a new variety.