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TomTom Flames OpenStreetMap

An anonymous reader writes "TomTom Navigation has a recently launched article on what they call the 'negative aspects' of open data projects such as OpenStreetMap. As there are no hard facts and details to the studies they refer, the OSM community identified this release as classic 'Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.'"

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  1. We're better because we do the same thing! by mpoulton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTFA: "We harness the local knowledge of our 60 million satnav customers, who can make corrections through TomTom Map Share." So... open mapping projects are worse than their closed mapping product because their closed mapping product is collaboratively edited by the users... Nice argument.

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  2. Who cares, except Captain Obvious? by siddesu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The motives are obvious, the critique is not very specific, everyone who is using OSM does realize their limitations, and anyone who is using mapping software and gets in trouble because they prioritize the mapping data over what they can see with their own eyes should not be on the road anyway.

    Too bad for Tomtom, but they stopped to be relevant quite a few years ago.

  3. Please keep thinking and watch the road(signs). by kwark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Many drivers rely heavily on satellite navigation for precise directions, and mapping errors can be extremely dangerous, particularly in the case of one-way streets."

    I see people using these commercial quality navigation units every day and still they take stupid actions like driving into a oneway street and making last second turns (right... left, NO RIGHT swerving all over the road) while spending more time looking at their statnav than on the road. Turn by turn navigation is dangerous by itself when used blindly no matter what maps are being used, they induce a near total lack of anticipation of traffic.

  4. Re:Why would it need studies? by cheaphomemadeacid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, we really really really need a new moderator option, -1 marketdrone

  5. No kidding by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should worry more about Google maps/navigation. You get a smartphone with that on it, and suddenly a Tomtom doesn't seem like a good buy anymore. My mom has a Tomtom because she could practically get lost driving on a straight road, and it has worked well. However it has nothing on my smartphone with Google on it. Reason is that the smartphone can (and does) fetch map data in realtime. I don't have to remember to load maps for where I'm going and they'll be as up to date as Google has at the moment.

    In terms of other features like plotting a route talking you through things and so on they both work fine.

    That's their real threat. Anyone who has a newish Android smartphone already has this, and I have to presume it is available on all other platforms. It's free and it works well. You don't have to remember to bring anything with you, other than your phone which you probably already have. Heck even if you don't have the app you can download it in the field.

    Between that and cars with built in nav systems, I can't see them having a market for much longer. Stand alone GPS units are going to be the kind of things that hikers use, if you are on a roadway your car, phone, or both will already have you covered.

  6. Re:Why would it need studies? by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with open maps is that too many can edit them.
    The problem with closed maps is that too few can edit them.

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  7. Tomtom can get stuffed by Tough+Love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The one thing that sticks in my mind about Tomtom: when they got sued by Microsoft, the open source community rallied round. But did they ever bother making the minimal effort to distribute a Linux client, perhaps to show appreciation if nothing else? Appreciation not just for the support they got against Microsoft but for giving them a free platform to build their business on? No. Too much to ask, apparently. As far as I am concerned, Tomtom can fuck themselves.

    Oh, and when I lost my Tomtom I did not replace it, I bought a Garmin.

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  8. Re:Why would it need studies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with open maps is that too many can edit them.
    The problem with closed maps is that too few can edit them.

    TomToms problem with open maps is that they can't charge for them, and they compete with their product. This is just marketing BS AKA lies.

  9. Re:Why would it need studies? by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Navteq uses...

    Navteq is the company that provides maps and mapping services. When you hear names like "tomtom", "garmin" and so on, these companies do not actually provide maps. They provide UI shells and minor map modifications but licence actual maps either from navteq or tele atlas (two biggest providers of mapping data in the world). Navteq and tele atlas in turn get their maps from their cartographers, one of whom you just mentioned.