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Space Shuttle Collides With Bridge In New York

First time accepted submitter AbrasiveCat writes "While transporting the space shuttle Enterprise to its new home at the Intrepid Museum, a gust of wind caught the shuttle and pushed a wing tip into the South Channel Subway Bridge. With any luck it was just the protective covering that was damaged. Ah, New York traffic."

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  1. Blast. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    We were hoping that Britain would provide something of a buffer; but it looks like metric wind is making its way from the EU after all...

  2. It was on a boat by wookaru · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary should reflect that the Space Shuttle was being transported on top of a barge at the time of collision. Very low speed impact, very little damage. Headline is misleadingly catastrophic.

    1. Re:It was on a boat by TWX · · Score: 5, Informative

      Low speed doesn't mean little damage necessarily.

      A barge is fairly heavy, and if it's being pulled with the current, there's a whole lot of energy behind it. The shuttle could act like the crumple zone on a car in a collision, essentially being crushed in the process of slowing or stopping the barge.

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    2. Re:It was on a boat by azalin · · Score: 2

      Well as we claim to be well informed techno nerds, we should have known that there are no more flying (and fueled up) shuttles around. There where only to options left: 1) Oversized truck not quite making a turn and doing some (minor) damage to the shuttle. 2)Shuttle on a ship with a lot more options on the scale of the damage to the shuttle.

    3. Re:It was on a boat by geekoid · · Score: 2

      It could have fallen off a plane.

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    4. Re:It was on a boat by bws111 · · Score: 2

      Read TFA. The wingtip of the shuttle lightly grazed a wooden navigation bumper on the bridge, causing some protective foam to fall off the shuttle and no damage to the bridge.

    5. Re:It was on a boat by residieu · · Score: 2

      There's no mention of damage to the bridge, and the shuttle suffered only "minor wing damage". Not every catasrophic. Since the shuttle will never fly again, the wing damage shouldn't be that big a deal, just make a cosmetic fix and you're fine. If the shuttle fleet were still in use (and this was a real shuttle, not the test model), someone would have to do a serious examination of the wing looking for defaults.

    6. Re:It was on a boat by MBAFK · · Score: 5, Informative

      This page is more informative and has the damage photos: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-060412a.html

      Doesn't look too bad.

    7. Re:It was on a boat by camperdave · · Score: 2

      Some foam got scraped off of the starboard wingtip. Inconvenient, maybe. Costly, probably. Embarrassing, definitely. Catastrophe, not so much.

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    8. Re:It was on a boat by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Now that it doesn't actually have to not-burn-up-on-reentry or anything, a modestly talented model aircraft hobbyist could probably have it looking good as new in a weekend.

      I suspect that, had they had to get that wingtip flight rated again, the bill might have come in considerably higher...

    9. Re:It was on a boat by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Funny

      A priceless relic collides with a heavily used piece of transportation infrastructure?

      Thank God the relic wasn't damaged, and the Shuttle should be pretty easy to fix.

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    10. Re:It was on a boat by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I think it's cool to be able to see the structure, which is depicted pretty clearly in some of the photos taken immediately after the collision. They oughta just face it so that wing is away from the entrance to the exhibit or direction you walk up to it normally or whatever.

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    11. Re:It was on a boat by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Low speed doesn't mean little damage necessarily

      I can vouch for that. When I was in the USAF stationed at Dover in 1971-3, one of the tow tractors backing a C5-A into a hangar hit the hangar door with a wing. We're talking really low speed here, slower than a normal walk. It did five million dollars in damage. Worried the hell out of the tractor driver until they layed the blame on the wingwalker.

    12. Re:It was on a boat by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      He hands it to the final spot. "Yea, we can just buff that out."

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    13. Re:It was on a boat by bsane · · Score: 2

      The leading edges of the Enterprise are just foam replacements anyway- the originals were used for testing post Columbia.

    14. Re:It was on a boat by Cassini2 · · Score: 2

      A little brick of styrofoam would never harm a space shuttle ...

    15. Re:It was on a boat by BobNET · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's funny, the damage doesn't look as bad from out here.

    16. Re:It was on a boat by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Worse, this is the second time a NASA barge has hit a bridge in a little over four months. The first time knocked a section of the bridge down, and they just got a new section installed about a week ago.

      I'm beginning to think that NASA needs to seriously improve the rigorousness of their training/selection process for barge captains. Just saying.

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  3. Oblig Tasteless by stevegee58 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ready for throttle-up.

    1. Re:Oblig Tasteless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ready for throttle-up.

      Well, as long as we're all going to hell today, 2001 called, 1986 can have its tasteless humor back:

      This just in: A SECOND SPACE SHUTTLE HAS JUST CRASHED INTO THE SECOND PIER OF THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE!

  4. Disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why am I both relieved and disappointed this wasn't an awesome space crash?

  5. Imaginary Diagrams by bacon.frankfurter · · Score: 2

    I wish there was a way to post a diagram of what I was imagining this article to be about, based on the headline alone.

    Hint: It would have been the Brooklyn Bridge, and there would have been volcanoes and dinosaurs involved.

  6. Re:Ease up on the hyperbole please. by Tanktalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mod parent up to +10. There's NOTHING worse than hyperbole. If I had a nickel for every time I saw unnecessary hyperbole, I'd be a BILLIONAIRE by now. If I could jump as over the top as these headlines get, I could out-leap Superman over tall buildings! Excessive use of hyperbole is worse than SATAN rising from the DEPTHS OF HELL, spewing HELLFIRE on everyone!

    Or, maybe, just maybe, you need to take a valium. Not sure.

  7. New Yorkers... by Sez+Zero · · Score: 5, Funny

    THIS is why you CAN'T have nice things!

    1. Re:New Yorkers... by chispito · · Score: 2

      As far as I can tell, they get nice things like this (atmospheric test) Space Shuttle simply because they're New York.

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  8. Should of sent it by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should of sent it to Texas, we were more careful with our shuttle replica than they were with the real things it seems. Someones head is going to roll over this I bet.

    1. Re:Should of sent it by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, they were trying to console Houstonians a few weeks ago by telling them, "Well, at least the model shuttle we'll be getting is something the public will be allowed to walk through and see from the inside." Small comfort for a city that's devoted so much to the industry. It just feels like a massive slap in the face.

    2. Re:Should of sent it by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean like this? http://www.click2houston.com/image/view/-/14428030/medRes/1/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/vrhrx6/-/shuttle54-jpg.jpg

      Houston seems to have managed to get their replica to it's new home safely. Someone dropped the ball, you always factor in wind when on the water, always

    3. Re:Should of sent it by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      Members of my family, none of whom work at NASA, were out there with others from the community helping to collect the debris. A close family friend of ours was one of the astronauts on Columbia's last mission that returned successfully, and she pulled some strings to get us into the family-only area to see the launch for the mission. I didn't know it at the time, but I found out later that her mission and the one that ended in disaster had been swapped in the schedule. I can't help but wonder how my own life would have been different had they not swapped those missions, since she's been someone who has had a significant impact on me and my career choices, as well as my family in general. Our families have shared a lot of highs and lows together, and I'm glad she's still with us.

      But hey, cheap laughs are worth it, right? Good one.

  9. I didn't see anything... by khr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, I can say there was nothing recognizable damaged to an untrained eye with a 300mm camera lens... I was on the bank of the bay, near the Verrazana-Narrows Bridge taking pictures... Maybe that's why they were late getting there, they might've stopped to inspect it after the collision.

  10. Ambiguities by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are many ambiguities in the summary.

    1. The bridge was over water, not a roadway.

    2. This was neither caused by "New York traffic" nor did it disrupt (land) traffic.

    3. The protective covering that was damaged was on the Enterprise, not the bridge.

    4. You can view photos of the damage yourself.

  11. No Business in NYC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm so glad New York City got a Space Shuttle instead of the National Museum of the United State Air Force. That way, citizens can pay to see it (NMUSAF is totally free--including parking), in a setting that makes sense (there were carrier-based space shuttles, right?) and it's clustered next to another shuttle (less than eight hours NYC to DC, vs. putting it towards the center of the country). Further, this shows that the Intrepid museum is already providing the lack of care they have provided other artifacts.

  12. So, by hackertourist · · Score: 5, Funny

    these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise?

  13. SAVE THE ENZOS! by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    I'm confused, do I go to the Cargo Letter or Airdisaster.com for news on this ?
    Guess I should check Wrecked Exotics while I'm at it.

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  14. Another accident ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    .. and again, there were no survivors among the shuttle crew.

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  15. SHIELDS! SHIELDS! by ebinrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    [Scotty]: What, she didna' have her shields up?

  16. Re:If it went to Houston... by Rakishi · · Score: 2

    The Saturn V is now in a lovely enclosure fully restored.

    Oddly enough the same people who complained about it being left outside to rot complain about it now being covered up in a warehouse.

  17. Re:Shuttle by Macrat · · Score: 2

    These things have been known to break up on re-entry.

    And shortly after launch.

  18. Someone understandable. by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After looking at the pictures, it's not like the Brooklyn bridge just jumped out in front of the barge carrying the shuttle. It was transiting a fairly narrow bridge. The wingspan on the shuttle is 78 feet, and a google map distance measurement of where the shuttle clipped the bridge says the space they had to work with was about 100 feet, give or take. That means if you absolutely threaded the needle, you should have had 11 feet (That's about 3.3 meters for you folks unfamiliar with a proper unit of measurement =) ) to work with on either side of the bird. That seems like a lot, but on a windy day.....very touchy.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=J+F+K+Airport,+New+York,+NY&aq=0&oq=JFK+&sll=40.639749,-73.824348&sspn=0.097239,0.057421&vpsrc=0&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=J+F+K+Airport,+New+York,+NY&z=13&cid=17028024512003641840&iwloc=A

    (if the link is jacked up, just go to JFK and work your way south east)

    It looks like, from the pictures upthread, the shuttle hit the railroad bridge that sits between Cross Bay Blvd and JFK airport. I've ground handled large aircraft on the tarmac, and 11 feet is too close for comfort in my book. I don't envy the guys who had to try and make that work.

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  19. Put up a plaque. by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    "On the 4th of June 2012, on this spot, the Space Shuttle Enterprise crashed into this bridge."

    Details are not that important. Awesome plaqueage is.

  20. You Break It, You Buy It by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2

    Fortunately, the damage seems to be cosmetic, limited to the foam that covered the wingtip. No structure or mechanisms appear to have been damaged
    [...]
    We will [on Monday be able to] better assess the wingtip damage (it was late by the time we docked, with almost no light available)

    These clowns should never have been allowed to touch the Shuttle. That "cosmetic foam" was one of the most important structures/mechanisms on the shuttle: its heat shield that protected it from reentry. That reentry is what makes it a shuttle and not just a launcher. The heat shield foam was one of the most famous innovations brought by the shuttle programme. They didn't know that? Why didn't they cover the wingtips with something stronger than foam? They knew it was narrow clearance, in a usually windy passage.

    But then, they evidently don't have artificial lighting to inspect their cargo after dark, either. Or schedules, so they'd know they'd need lights to inspect the shuttle for damage once they arrived, even if they hadn't obviously smashed it.

    This was a brand-new Space Shuttle. They just broke it. Weeks Marine should have to buy NYC a new one.

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  21. I'm wondering why the barge was not wider by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Is it just me, or is it blindingly obvious that if the barge was at least as wide as the shuttle, it'd be the barge scraped up and not the shuttle. Barges are generally more replaceable than shuttles, even if they are only flight test and landing mocks.

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