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Ray Bradbury Has Died

dsinc was the first to note, but an anonymous reader writes "Ray Bradbury, author of Fahrenheit 451, the dystopian novel about the logical conclusion of many trends in modern society, and many other works that have inspired fans of speculative fiction for decades, has died at the age of 91 in Los Angeles, California, Tuesday night, June 5th, 2012. No details on how he died were released, but I suspect it may have had something to do with the Earth orbiting the sun over 90 times since he was born. I guess we'll have to wait to be sure."

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  1. The most human side of scifi... by Art+Popp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is found in that man's works. He is the reason my Mom understands the wonder of extraterrestrial life, the temptations and costs of technological solutions to social problems, and has any clue as to what her son is thinking.

    I owe that man a great deal more than I've spent on his books.

    1. Re:The most human side of scifi... by elgeeko.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very well put. He made a huge impact on me growing up. A lot of people think of him as only a Sci-Fi writer, but his works went way beyond that. My wife is anything buy a Scifi fan, but she was deeply influenced by Bradbury and his "Zen and the Art of Writing". He was a true master and will be deeply missed.

    2. Re:The most human side of scifi... by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 3, Funny

      I read The Martian Chronicles as a very young child. Pretty sure that completely f*cked me up.

    3. Re:The most human side of scifi... by Cornwallis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, very well put. Fahrenheit 451 was so far ahead of the times it is frightening.
      His poetic use of the language will be sorely missed.
      Something Wicked This Way Comes, Dandelion Wine, The Martian Chronicles... beautiful works.

    4. Re:The most human side of scifi... by Kiyyik · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Amen to that... more than his hard SF work, his stories of sheer damn everyday magic -- and I'm talking Dandelion Wine here, and Death is a Lonely Business, and so many others, captivated the hell out of me. He was the high water mark of what speculative fiction can accomplish, and taught me what SF is really about. When a reader told me my writing was alike a cross between Bradbury and Lovecraft, it was the best thing ever. Tonight... well, tonight I have a jug of dandelion wine sitting in my fridge--liquid summer, my first attempt but no less sweet. Tonight I'll raise a glass to him, and remember the long ago summers and the magic they held and the man who taught me to see them. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

    5. Re:The most human side of scifi... by danbuter · · Score: 2

      RIP Mr. Bradbury. You were a great inspiration to me. I'm glad you got to live such a long life, and I hope you realize how many people you influenced so positively.

    6. Re:The most human side of scifi... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Same here. Pretty bizarre stuff. I also remember the first time I read Something Wicked This Way Comes. Scared the shit out of me. We've lost one of the great ones.

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    7. Re:The most human side of scifi... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2

      >I owe that man a great deal more than I've spent on his books.

      I agree completely. By the age of fourteen, I had read everything in our public library by the man. He had a tremendous influence on me as I grew up.

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    8. Re:The most human side of scifi... by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He was the only author that was required reading in school (in several grades no less) that I still enjoyed on my own time as well. Not even English teachers can screw up Bradbury's works.

    9. Re:The most human side of scifi... by Canazza · · Score: 2

      "You're afraid of making mistakes. Don't be. Mistakes can be profited by. Man, when I was young I shoved my ignorance in people's faces. They beat me with sticks. By the time I was forty my blunt instrument had been honed to a fine cutting point for me. If you hide your ignorance, no one will hit you and you'll never learn."

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    10. Re:The most human side of scifi... by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes, very well put. Fahrenheit 451 was so far ahead of the times it is frightening.

      Far ahead when it was written, perhaps. As he himself put it, "I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it."

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    11. Re:The most human side of scifi... by cpu6502 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FIXED LINK: http://www.seedpeer.me/details/2909203/Ray-Bradbury-Audio-Book-Collection.html
      I'm for copyright but only for one generation (20 years). The purpose of art is to enrich culture by becoming past of the shared public property. Example: The movie As The Clouds Rolled By is now public domain and free to view..... would we be better off, if it was copyrighted and locked in some MGM vault somewhere? No. Culture is meant to be shared.

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    12. Re:The most human side of scifi... by jazzmans · · Score: 5, Interesting

      http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+beggar+on+Dublin+bridge.-a03579795

      "A fool,' I said. "That's what I am.'

      "Why?' asked my wife. "What for?'

      I brooded by our third-floor hotel window. On the Dublin street below a man passed, his face to the lamplight. "Him,' I muttered. "Two days ago----'

      Two days ago as I was walking along, someone had "hissed' me from the hotel alley. "Sir, it's important! Sir!'

      I turned into the shadow. This little man in the direct tones said, "I've a job in Belfast if I just had a pound for the train fare!'

      I hesitated.

      "A most important job!' he went on swiftly. "Pays well! I'll--I'll mail you back the loan! Just give me your name and hotel----'

      He knew me for a tourist. But it was too late; his promise to pay had moved me. The pound note crackled in my hand, being worked free from several others.

      The man's eye skimmed like a shadowing hawk. "If I had two pounds, I could eat on the way----'

      I uncrumpled two bills.

      "And three pounds would bring the wife----'

      I unleafed a third.

      "Ah, hell!' cried the man. "Five, just five poor pounds, would find us a hotel in that brutal city and let me get to the job, for sure!'

      What a dancing fighter he was, light on his toes, weaving, tapping with his hands, flicking with his eyes, smiling with his mouth, jabbing with his tongue.

      "Lord thank you, bless you, sir!'

      He ran, my five pounds with him. I was half in the hotel before I realized that, for all his vows, he had not recoreded my name. "Gah!' I cried then.

      "Gah!' I cried now at the window. For there, passing below, was the very fellow who should have been in Belfast two nights ago.

      "Oh, I know him,' said my wife. "He stopped me this noon. Wanted train fare to Galway.'

      "Did you give it to him?'

      "No,' said my wife simply.

      Then the worst thing happened. The demon glanced up, saw us and darned if he didn't wave!

      I had to stop myself from waving back. A sickly grin played on my lips. "It's got so I hate to leave the hotel,' I said.

      "It's cold out, all right.'

      "No,' I said. "Not the cold. Them.'

      And we looked again from the window. There was the cobbled Dublin street with the night wind blowing in a fine soot along one way to Trinity College, another to St. Stephen's Green. Across by the sweet shop two men stood mummified in the shadows. Farther up in a doorway was a bundle of old newspapers that would stir like a pack of mice and wish you the time of evening if you walked by. Below, by the hotel entrance, stood a feverish hothouse rose of a woman with a bundle.

      "Oh, the beggars,' said my wife.

      "No, not just "oh, the beggars,'' I said. "But, oh, the people in the streets, who somehow became beggars.'

      My wife peered at me. "You're not afraid of them?'

      "Yes, no. Hell. It's that woman with the bundle who's worst. She's a force of nature, she is. Assaults you with her poverty. As for the others-- well, it's a big chess game for me now. We've been in Dublin--what?--eight weeks? Eight weeks I've sat up here with my typewriter, and studied their off hours and on. When they take a coffee break, I take one, run for the sweet shop, the bookstore, the Olympia Theatre. If I time it right, there's no handout, no my wanting to trot them into the barbershop or the kitchen.'

      "Lord,' said my wife, "you sound driven.'

      "I am. But most of all by that beggar on O'Connell Bridge!'

      "Which one?'

      "Which one, indeed! He's a wonder, a terror. I hate him, I love him. To see is to disbelieve him. Come on.'

      On the way down in the elevator my wife said, "If you held your face right, the beggars wouldn't bother you.'

      "My face,' I explained patiently, "is my face. It's from Apple Dumpling, Wisconsin, Sarsaparilla, Maine. KIND TO DOGS is writ on my brow for all to read. Let the street be empty-- then let me step out and there's a strikers' march of freeloader

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    13. Re:The most human side of scifi... by Calydor · · Score: 2

      Since I'm in an argumentative mood today, I went to take a look at the link. Sadly there's no list of the torrent's contents, but I trust that - following your own convictions regarding copyright lengths - you've checked that nothing written/recorded since 1992 is present in it?

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    14. Re:The most human side of scifi... by thomst · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Art Popp commented::

      ...is found in that man's works. He is the reason my Mom understands the wonder of extraterrestrial life, the temptations and costs of technological solutions to social problems, and has any clue as to what her son is thinking.

      I owe that man a great deal more than I've spent on his books.

      No, no, NO. Ray Bradbury was a great, poetic writer, but he was NOT a science fiction writer. Period. He, himself, always characterized his work as fantasy, and I couldn't more enthusiastically agree.

      I've been reading science fiction since I was six years old, and I never considered Bradbury as an sf writer, even when I was a child. Mainly, that's because there's NO science in his fiction. Poetry, yes. Horror? Plenty of that. Magic? It's ubiquitous in Bradbury. But science? Uh, uh.

      Take "The Veldt", for instance, where a 3-D immersive wall display somehow turns into a portal into an actual African veldt, complete with a pride of hungry lions. Horripilating fiction, yes - but not SCIENCE fiction. It -like pretty much all of Bradbury's work - is fantasy dressed up in science fiction clothes.

      I always resented the goddamned media portraying Ray Bradbury as a science fiction author, all the while ignoring his contemporaries (Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein, Anderson, etc.) who actually WERE science fiction authors. Back in the 60's, whenever there was some major science-y news story, they'd trot poor old Ray out, and present him to the unwashed masses as "science fiction author Ray Bradbury". And Bradbury, of course, would have noting of value to say about the science aspect of the story, because HE WASN'T A SCIENCE FICTION AUTHOR. In fact, one of my absolute fondest memories was the extended conversation between Walter Cronkhite, Robert Heinlein, and Arthur Clarke during the wee hours of the morning on July 21, 1969, while the Apollo 11 astronauts spent 6 hours sleeping prior to that first, historic step onto the Moon. One of the things that I most appreciated about that redeye special was the fact that RAY BRADBURY WASN'T PART OF IT. It increased my already considerable respect for Uncle Walter by a non-trivial margin, let me tell you.

      Don't get me wrong, here. I enjoyed Ray Bradbury's work. He was an engaging writer, whose prose style often read like blank verse. I just never considered him to be a science fiction writer - AND NEITHER DID HE.

      And, btw, if you want to read the work of a master of the human side of science fiction, try the late, great Theodore Sturgeon. HE was an amazing science fiction writer, whose work often reads like poetry, but, unlike Bradbury's, it was ACTUAL science fiction, not fantasy dressed up in scifi clothes ...

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    15. Re:The most human side of scifi... by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes but he didn't have to waste 10 pages of screens to quote it on /. when he had already provided the link for us to read.

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    16. Re:The most human side of scifi... by RadioElectric · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fiction is for making you think, not for telling you what to think.

  2. "S is for Space" first scifi book I read by peter303 · · Score: 2

    And "R is for Rocket" I read 40-some years ago. They were collections of Bradbury short stories.

  3. RIP by krakass · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rest in peace, but is it too late to Fuck me, Ray Bradbury?

  4. I KNEW Venus was up to no good! by Gr33nJ3ll0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously this is all about the transition of Venus across the sun. Just like the comet took Mark Twain, Venus has claimed Bradbury!

    1. Re:I KNEW Venus was up to no good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      He wrote stories about Venus, too. The one that has stuck in my mind was the child recently emigrated from earth who missed seeing the sun (because Venus was cloudy and rainy). The school teacher had locked her in the closet for some behavioral thing, and the child missed a brief and rare siting of the sun because of that. He was a master of highlighting the all too human inhumane cruelty that we too often promulgate.

    2. Re:I KNEW Venus was up to no good! by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Informative

      All Summer in a Day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Summer_in_a_Day

      I first read it on my own, then was surprised when it showed up in English class a few years later

  5. damn sad. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    I loved his book Celsius 233.

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  6. His most famous work by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fahrenheit 451 wasn't about censorship. I know 100 people who know nothing else about the book except cliff notes or what they got off wikipedia are about to make that comment. So I'll save you the trouble. It was about TV and the mental wasteland that he thought it represented.

    1. Re:His most famous work by ravenshrike · · Score: 4, Insightful

      According to Bradbury it wasn't about censorship. According to everybody else and their mother it WAS about censorship. So clearly the takeaway is that Bradbury sucks at getting his point across.

    2. Re:His most famous work by hal2814 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd side with the masses. It's not particularly important what the author intended. It only matters what people take away from it. However, a contradiction between those two parties doesn't mean an author sucks at getting his/her point across. It just means when the work was released and took on a life of its own, the takeaway was different than what the author originally envisioned. There's nothing wrong with that.

    3. Re:His most famous work by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, that's because people are stupid and will make the simplest possible connections they can. Book burning, historically, was about specific books. Nazis would burn books with Jewish authors, Christians would burn "satanic" books.

      In Bradbury's novel, they burned ALL books, and never once because anyone disagreed with anything the books said. They burned them because of rampant anti-intellectualism, which was clearly recurring throughout the book. People burn because because they know they're supposed to, and don't care to look into the matter any further. Beatty, Montag's superior, even suggested it was common for firemen to be interested, but they'd grow out of it.

      You only get "censorship" from 451 if you didn't really read it.

    4. Re:His most famous work by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Except that the book doesn't say anything meaningful about censorship. It's not like 1984, where the point is that those in power have a strong incentive to control everything those under them are exposed to, and if left unchecked would destroy the truth by the time it got to you. Burning books is just something that is done in Fahrenheit 451.

    5. Re:His most famous work by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      I had a coworker recently tell me about many TVs she had throughout the house. She wanted to get a waterproof one to put outside by the pool, then joked about having a big screen on the bottom of the pool. I said it was like F451, and she had no idea what I meant. I described how there were TV screens everywhere, her eyes lit up and she said, "That would be awesome!" I tried to tell her how it was meant to be a distopia, not a utopia, but gave up after a few minutes.

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    6. Re:His most famous work by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Books tend to have three meanings:
      1) What the author meant
      2) What the reader takes away from the story
      3) What English teacher say the author meant and what they (the teachers) think readers should take away from the story

      1 and 2 are often, but not always, the same. Neither 1 nor 2 are ever the same as 3.

    7. Re:His most famous work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that in the real world no one burns books except as an attempt at censorship, and Bradbury never really established why they burned books in Fahrenheit 451, so people made the obvious jump.

      Once that jump is made the whole book looks like a commentary on how censorship makes people stupid (or rather ignorant).

      If Bradbury really wanted it to be about how TV made people ignorant because they ignore books, he really should not have made burning the books such a big deal.

    8. Re:His most famous work by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Flip-side: it was the job of the main character, and therefor that character would be more likely to focus on it.

    9. Re:His most famous work by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's still censorship. It's just censorship taken to an extreme.

      It's an overkill approach to suppressing anything that might shake people out of their stupor. The government didn't want anyone to start thinking. Of course the populace were pretty indifferent.

      It wasn't "the will of the people", it was a heavy handed means of asserting control and suppressing ideas.

      Suppressing ideas, even if done very crudely, is what censorship is. The fact that there's a lot of collateral damage doesn't really matter.

      Harlequins were destroyed to make sure that copies of On Walden Pond burned with it.

      The great irony is the fact that the tech he was objecting too ultimately will ensure that such a future cannot happen. I have more books in my transistor radio/phone than any character in Fahrenheit 451.

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    10. Re:His most famous work by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, it's not like the author is given a main character and plot and then forced to somehow bring the two together. He invents the main character, and the plot. If he didn't want book burning to be the focus, maybe he shouldn't have made that the main character's job and then named the book after it.

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    11. Re:His most famous work by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      I haven't read it, and so I'm not making an argument about the book itself, but once created, art has a life beyond its creator and its meaning is subjective. If one sees happiness in a Jackson Pollock, say, then the painting means happiness to them. If another person sees a mess, then to them it's a mess. The artist himself may have been expressing anger or remorse, but it's other people's interpretations that give it meaning. This is no less true for written works of art than other media. I may write a story about how I lost my dog and felt both remorse for not having better prevented this situation, and relief that I would no longer have to care for him. To me, it may have been a literal story. To someone else it could be a metaphor for losing a parent. None of this is to dismiss the importance of reading comprehension, but the idea that there is but one correct answer for the meaning of a work is simply a childish desire for order and absolute truth.

      That's not to say that people haven't just read the cliffnotes, but that the author of said summary's interpretation isn't inherently wrong just because it wasn't what Bradbury was thinking of when he wrote it.

    12. Re:His most famous work by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 2

      Why can't both be right?

      This is something that a lot of people can't seem to get their head around. Either they've had too many STEM classes in school that emphasize (rightly for their topic) the objective, or too many bad teachers that tell them some agreed upon meaning that you must regurgitate for a final essay question.

      The meaning of a work is what you take away from it. Not what other people take away from it. Not what the author put there to be taken away. Nobody can be wrong about the meaning of a work because it's a subjective thing. Putting down Dune with the impression that it's boring and pointless is just as valid as the person who says it's about manipulation of society through false religion.

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    13. Re:His most famous work by Wulfrunner · · Score: 2

      My favourite quote from the book was,
      “Cram them full of non-combustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they’ll feel they’re thinking, they’ll get a sense of motion without moving. And they’ll be happy, because facts of that sort don’t change. Don’t give them any slippery stuff like philosophy or sociology to tie things up with. That way lies melancholy.”

      I feel like that was one of the main themes of the book, which I only read a couple of years ago.

      I grew up hearing about how Farenheit 451 was a dystopian authoritarian state-control type story. I was completely surprised by the prominent role of individual agency and the poetry of the prose. The value of the book is completely lost in the "Coles Notes Version" (or the summary your friend gave you) because a good portion of the work is conveyed through the deliberate use of specific language.

    14. Re:His most famous work by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One of the things I like about books is that they are a collaboration. If you watch a movie or TV show then you get what you are given, room can sometimes be left for some personal interpretation, but generally by being intentionally vague and leaving holes in the mosaic.

      With a good book the author can lay down his vision, as rich and full as he can make it and ripe with intent both conscious and otherwise. But when you partake of his creation, the words act not as a finished product, but as a seed. They take root in your mind and grow, blossoming into a world that extends far beyond what was captured on the page, full of a detail and subtlety undreamt of in cinema, a living world which is not constrained by the covers that house it, but only slips out of focus where it extends beyond them. A deeply personal expanse born of both the author's mind and your own.

      I think that's one of the reasons that, for all their convenience, I'm not overfond of books-on-tape. Every pause, every inflection, every subtle choice of pronunciation inserts a tiny sliver of a third mind into the communion. Not enough to make a substantial contribution, but enough to twist and stunt the growth of the world.

      Perhaps too there is a power in the written word itself. The word is an abstraction of the concept, and the written word a further abstraction of that. Perhaps the very act of reading, of translating symbols into words, and words into concepts imparts a psychological momentum that launches them deep into your mind where they can find fertile ground and grow beyond concept into imagery and substance, acquiring depth and breadth until a scattering of concepts becomes a world.

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  7. Something Wicked This Way Comes by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My wife never liked science fiction. One evening I chose "Something Wicked This Way Comes" to watch on DVD and she rolled her eyes at my choice.

    After watching, she said to me "now I know why you read all that stuff. That was great!"

    A true master of the art has passed.

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  8. Farewell, good sir by BRSQUIRRL · · Score: 2

    While a little overlooked (and dated, to be fair) now, The Martian Chronicles were one of the first sci-fi works I read as a kid and were a big part of making me a fan of the genre. Like all of his works, they were simultaneously beautiful and sad.

    Farewell, good sir; you put humanity under the microscope with your writing and, whether we liked what we saw or not, we needed to see it.

  9. What really scares me. by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What really bothers me about 451 is how just about everything but the book burning turned out true. If you remove that aspect from the book, you'd have a hard time separating it from the United States of today. I can't read it without being unnerved. Immersing ourselves in our electronic entertainment rather than our lives, advertisement everywhere, complete lack of empathy as a social standard, constant, ignored wars, distaste for pedestrians, rampant anti-intellectualism, near identical suburbs everywhere.

    It was a brilliant extrapolation from 1953, and I wish it wasn't so close to reality.

    1. Re:What really scares me. by idontgno · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think Bradbury underestimated the state of things.

      Books aren't even worth burning. Apparently, for a lot of people, they just don't really exist at all.

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    2. Re:What really scares me. by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The book burning is pointless. The anti-intellectualism is there. The apathy towards real knowledge with supporting context is gone. Censorship only matters to people who care about deep understanding of things. There aren't many of those.

  10. Collected Short Stories by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And "R is for Rocket" I read 40-some years ago. They were collections of Bradbury short stories.

    Indeed, I too cut my teeth on Ray Bradbury's works for fantasy and science fiction. Recently I discovered an edition of 100 of his collected short stories (chosen by the man himself) that appeared to include most if not all of my favorites. For anyone looking to discover/rediscover, this is an inexpensive and fairly comprehensive route to take. These stories are written for a younger mind but are still enjoyable to me.

    It might have been because I had not dealt with death on a profound level yet but his short story "Kaleidoscope" from The Illustrated Man was permanently etched upon my mind. Now Bradbury is a shooting star providing wishes and dreams to the young minds who read his works. Personally I feel that hundreds of years from now, Bradbury will join the ranks of Hans Christian Anderson, Road Dahl, etc and his works will be seen as mandatory classics for readers. Like all modern writing, some of these stories aren't the most original in their nature but they are perfect to capture a mind and set someone on a course for endless reading. It's a sad day to see such a wonderful mind pass but I will do my part to immortalize him through recommendations.

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  11. Veeeeenusssss! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2

    It was the transit of Venus! It was jealous that Ray gave Mars all his love, and pulled some sneaky, underhanded gravitational alignment whatsis! Damn you, Venus! Damn yoooooou!

  12. Dinosaurs pass on by dorpus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm from the generation that had schoolteachers who couldn't stop talking about how great the 60s were. So, Bradbury epitomized the 60s SF writers who thought that computer technology would "oppress" us, and women in the future were supposed to behave just as submissively as 1950s women. Thanks to that strain of thought, my generation was discouraged from pursuing computer careers.

  13. as bricks and mortar burn by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What really bothers me about 451 is how just about everything but the book burning turned out true.

    WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CALLED A KINDLE MOTHERFUCKER?!!![*]

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  14. The New Yorker by milkmage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ran their first sci-fi issue this month.

    Here's his piece "Inspiration for the Fire Balloons"
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/04/120604fa_fact_bradbury

    While I remained earthbound, I would time-travel, listening to the grownups, who on warm nights gathered outside on the lawns and porches to talk and reminisce. At the end of the Fourth of July, after the uncles had their cigars and philosophical discussions, and the aunts, nephews, and cousins had their ice-cream cones or lemonade, and we’d exhausted all the fireworks, it was the special time, the sad time, the time of beauty. It was the time of the fire balloons.

  15. Mr. Bradbury, may you have peace... by wannabegeek2 · · Score: 2

    I owe Mr. Bradbury and his golden age of science fiction brethern a great deal. It was his writing and that of Wells, Verne, Assimov and others which pulled me up from a path of near illiteracy to being an avid reader.

    If there is an after life, I hope Bradbury, Verne, Clark and all the others have already started writing for the inhabitants. They'll be better off for it.

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  16. Prescient by cthlptlk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just looked at a few wikipedia pages and saw this thing that he wrote about a transistor radio in the 1950s. It is exactly the way you might describe someone talking on a cell phone if you walked outside your door right now:

    In writing the short novel Fahrenheit 451 I thought I was describing a world that might evolve in four or five decades. But only a few weeks ago, in Beverly Hills one night, a husband and wife passed me, walking their dog. I stood staring after them, absolutely stunned. The woman held in one hand a small cigarette-package-sized radio, its antenna quivering. From this sprang tiny copper wires which ended in a dainty cone plugged into her right ear. There she was, oblivious to man and dog, listening to far winds and whispers and soap-opera cries, sleep-walking, helped up and down curbs by a husband who might just as well not have been there. This was not fiction.

    No, he didn't predict cell phones or anything like that, but he recognized one of the first victims of the epidemic that went on to swallow us all.

    1. Re:Prescient by KlomDark · · Score: 2

      I'm reading this on my phone at lunch so getting a kick of of this...

      Posted from my Cricket Memo

  17. Oblig. Simpsons quote by uncle+slacky · · Score: 2

    "I'm aware of his work."

    --
    Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
  18. Re:Which book would you memorize before it's torch by dr_dank · · Score: 2

    Given the limits and frailties of the human memory, he could have written a follow-up about the mangled misremembered books:

    A Tale of Two Cities - Christopher Dickins look at Minneapolis and st Paul.

    Moby Dick - Herman Mullers classic tale of Captain Arabs search for the perfect tuna salad sandwich.

    Macbeth - The story of the first girl to own an Apple Macintosh.

    --
    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  19. I saw him speak in California in May, 1982 by talexb · · Score: 2

    I happened to be touring a university campus (UCLA? Berkeley?) and saw a poster for a talk he was giving, and bought a ticket on a whim. He was a fascinating speaker, and it was intriguing to hear him re-engineer and expand on Fahrenheit 451. What a treat. Afterwards, he gladly stayed behind and autographed books for quite a while.

    I also remember something about him being arrested in Paris, France for being 'drunk and in charge of a bicycle'. What's not to like?

    RIP.

  20. Re: Fahrenheit 451 by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    not gonna tan his hide and turn him into a helicopter then?
    pity.

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  21. Re:Not everybody wasa fan... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2

    As a fan of the hard stuff (Heinlein, Poul Anderson, Arthur C. Clarke et. al. - I prefer SF that requires a working knowledge of vector calculus and differential equations to really appreciate) his stuff always seemd pretty fluffy fare. I always summed it up as the science fiction beloved by English teachers everywhere

    Heh, you've got a point, and I too got tired of seeing him presented as pretty much the only science fiction author admitted into the literary canon. But SF from the 1970s on, which at its best combines "the hard stuff" with a humanistic approach to characterization, owes Bradbury equally along with Clarke et al. I've never understood the idea that scientific rigor should require the characters to be one-dimensional; both are important to telling a good story to which both the words "science" and "fiction" apply. (To be fair, Clarke did pretty well with this sometimes; I defy anyone to read The City and the Stars or The Fountains of Paradise and say he couldn't create interesting, complex characters! But he wasn't particularly consistent about it, and Heinlein and Anderson were even less so.)

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    The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
  22. Like an old friend by rbowen · · Score: 2

    I feel like an old friend has died, and I've been near tears several times today. I grew up on his stories. I deeply identified with his characters - especially Douglas Spaulding. I read Dandelion Wine almost every year, and it's always new.

    He influenced my writing style more than anyone else, as well as his encouragement to write something every day, whether I want to or not.

    His stories were always about more than just the setting - science fiction was simply a vehicle for him to communicate deep truths.

    I've been remembering all day a scene in Dandelion Wine in which Great Grandmother says goodbye to her family, and then settles into bed to try to find the dream that was interrupted when she was born. I hope you find your dream, Ray. Sleep well, old friend.

    --
    Apache guy, Open Source enthusiast, runner
  23. Re:Which book would you memorize before it's torch by KlomDark · · Score: 2

    The Ringworld Engineers - Larry Niven

  24. Farenheit 451 by scharkalvin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ray Bradberry wanted the title of this work to be the temperature that book paper catches fire. He searchd through the public libraries research section but couldn't find the answer to that question. He tried contacting several paper companies but they didn't have the answer. He finally called the local fire department and asked them what temperature paper catches fire at.... THEY KNEW!

  25. Bradbury book signing by mannd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    RIP Ray Bradbury. In 1999 I waited for about 4 hours in a line that wound around the downtown Denver Barnes and Noble to meet him and have him autograph a book. At the beginning of the event the book store manager announced that he would only stay for 2 hours to autograph books. The 2 hours came and went and the line was still very long. He then announced that he would stay until every last person had his or her book signed. He stayed until long after the usual store closing and signed every book. One of America's greatest authors and a true gentleman.

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    Sig expected Real Soon Now.
  26. All Summer in a Day and The Lake by An+dochasac · · Score: 2

    Ray Bradbury wrote "All summer in a day", the story of prejudice on Venus where an earthling's Venus-born schoolmates no longer believe in the sun. In a reflection of the rare beauty of a total solar eclipse, or the rarer phenomena of a Venus the sun only appears once every 7 years on Bradbury's Venus. Mr. Bradbury might have appreciated that his last day on earth coincided with a rare alignment between Earth, the Sun and Venus where...

    No one in the class could remember a time when there wasn't rain.
    “Ready?"
    "Ready."
    "Now?"
    "Soon."
    "Do the scientists really know? Will it happen today, will it?"
    "Look, look; see for yourself!"
    The children pressed to each other like so many roses, so many weeds, intermixed, peering out for a look at the hidden sun.
    It rained.
    It had been raining for seven years; thousand upon thousands of days compounded and filled from one end to the other with rain, with the drum and gush of water, with the sweet crystal fall of showers and the concussion of storms so heavy they were tidal waves come over the islands. A thousand forests had been crushed under the rain and grown up a thousand times to be crushed again. And this was the way life was forever on the planet Venus, and this was the schoolroom of the children of the rocket men and women who had come to a raining world to set up civilization and live out their lives.
    "It's stopping, it's stopping!"
    "Yes, yes!"

    Fellow midwesterner Mark Twain famously wrote: "I came in with Halley's comet in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest disappointment of my life if I don't go out with Halley's comet. The Almighty has said, no doubt: 'Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.'"

    Bradbury wasn't as sardonic as Twain. He preferred walking to driving, but this preference raised suspicions of cops in Waukegan Illinois. He turned his confrontations into Fahrenheit 451. As one of the most prolific writers in the world, he should be remembered for his love of language and life. Ray has inspired millions of writers and scientists with his prolific writing and love for language and life. And if you can read one of his first short stories, "The Lake" without shedding a tear over how short our time is on this planet... I don't know.

    "In my later years I have looked in the mirror each day and found a happy person staring back. Occasionally I wonder why I can be so happy. The answer is that every day of my life I've worked only for myself and for the joy that comes from writing and creating." -- Ray Bradbury (1920-2012 R.I.P.)

  27. Playboy by GrahamCox · · Score: 2

    Ray Bradbury couldn't find a major publisher willing to take on "Fahrenheit 451". It was first published in serial form in Playboy in 1954. It was only afterwards that it became a noted novel.

    People don't give Playboy any credit, but they were actually often quite edgy and on the forefront of a lot of new fiction and ideas throughout the 50, 60 and earlier 70s.