Grad Student Wins Alan Alda's Flame Challenge
eldavojohn writes "Scientists have long been criticized of their inability to communicate complex ideas adequately to the rest of society. Similar to his questions on PBS' Scientific American Frontiers, actor Alan Alda wrote to the journal Science with a proposition called The Flame Challenge (PDF). Contestants would have to explain a flame to an eleven-year-old kid, and the entries would be judged by thousands of children across the country. The winner of The Flame Challenge is quantum physics grad student Ben Ames, whose animated video covers concepts like pyrolysis, chemiluminescence, oxidation and incandescence boiled into a humorous video, complete with song. Now they are asking children age 10-12 to suggest the next question for the Flame Challenge. Kids out there, what would you like scientists to explain?"
Over-the-air channel 12-3 broadcasts an hour of Scientific American every day. Very well done (if a bit simplistic). They air other documentaries too. I remember when TLC used to have shows like this, but now it's PBS doing the job.
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âoeFUCKING MAGNETS, HOW DO THEY WORK?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
I'd enjoy hearing the explanation behind how women's minds work. Seriously. I'm sure most guys out there have experienced the "I think I've finally figured out most of what makes her tick. Now I just need to.. what the fuck?! She just did the opposite of what I.. never mind, I give up."
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Where do babies come from?
How can I make this other person like me?
And why can't you explain flame without using a stupid video, in a manner that can be understood by those with crappy Internet connections and/or those with poor or non-existent eye sight? Another question, who the hell still uses frames in this day and age?
The whole concept is pretty damn cool though. Explaining science to kids. Perhaps explain evolution next. If you can make a small child understand, you've got some hope of making an adult creationist understand...
What I am interested in knowing, is did the children actually understand the explanation, or did they just pick the one that they understood the most of? Were they tested afterwards?
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The superposition of states at the quantum level.
Alan Alda is behind the Flame virus? That was surprising
Because he's a really good host for the show and therefore not a "has been" but an "is now". Just like the guy who narrates for BBC/History Channel's "Life" and other docs.
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Why is Jersey Shore still on the air? That, or as I'm sure a little dude would suggest, why do 'splosion 'splode?
God, dude. Alan Alda has made significant contributions to the public understanding of science through hosting a show about it. He never plays the smart-ass, he's always unassuming and humble, and through that honesty (and by way of interviewing authorities on various subjects) he brings the most complex scientific concepts down to a common level that most people can understand. It's why his show is so popular. So, it may have been quite awhile since M*A*S*H* but that doesn't mean he hasn't stayed relevant. In fact, if Alan Alda wanted to interview a famous scientist -- better yet, YOUR favorite famous scientist, take your pick (I'll pick Stephen Hawking for you in your absence) -- he would get that interview at nearly a moment's notice! There's no scientist who wouldn't want to be interviewed by him and seen on his show. So, Big-Mouth, how many famous scientists can you speak with whenever you feel like it?
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
And its nice to have a few interested in communicating science, and spend years learning how to do it.
Now with Fire explained, children should learn about Earth, Wind, and Water.
flame : Fire
as
solid : Earth
as
gas : Wind
as
liquid : Water
Can you explain why you're never gonna give me up?
Because he's a really good host for the show and therefore not a "has been" but an "is now". Just like the guy who narrates for BBC/History Channel's "Life" and other docs.
I don't know if I'd equivocate David Attenborough with Alan Alda given the shape and span of their respective careers.
Nevertheless, I agree with you, their narration style is both informative and engaging, something few narrators achieve in modern broadcasting (unlike the vanilla quality of Oprah Winfrey and the others who narrate BBC's documentary series for an American audience).
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. --Will
It was last weekend. Alda's Flame presentation was one of 41 pieces. I saw four presentations, but not Alda's. The four were in the "Big ideas" track and panels on currently practicing researchers on a specific topic. And I learned more than I had expected. The were other tracks on the arts and for children. I'd recommend this conference to others, even if you work it into a NYC vacation which I did.
Some people judge based on the message rather than the messenger.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Ricardo Montalban was a kick ass narrator.
Probably didn't have 1/10th the career of Attenborough but he was still a kick ass narrator.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
>>>I'll pick Stephen Hawking for you in your absence
Good example of a bad narrator (when he did Masters of Science Fiction). At least the stories were good. Maybe they should have had Alan Alda narrate instead. Or the guys who did the Twilight Zone/Outer Limits in the 90s.
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It's a great explanation, but why does it feel like it's explaining it to a 6-year-old?
I have a hard time imagining my 11-year-old self taking it serious at all.
Personally I think they should change the challenge a bit. Explain X to an adult, but in a way that an 11-year-old can grasp.
Stop talking down to kids.
Mankind has learned and used fire for over 100,000 yrs without needing to explain in words to a 10-12 year old something that is best grasped through the senses.
Pretty sure the number you where looking for was 6000... 6000 years.... your welcome...
I'm for explaining how tides and currents work.. Why the ocean is higher at some point in the day, but lower in others... What's it like beneath the surface when the water is calm... That stuff...
I hate deep water too, deathly afraid of it.
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted." -Groucho Marx
. . . . so any kids will, too. Pity that I never saw this when I was their age.
The Cro-Magnon man was dated at ~35,000 BC. Okay, maybe calling "mankind" the puny apes before that age is too much. :)
Reference: http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx
Alda is quite the personality and has
How about these questions:
* Why is the sky blue?
* Why does water freeze?
* How is charcoal made? (relating it to fire, of course)
For those who are curious, he had an interesting discussion with Bob Osserman entitled M*A*T*H some years ago. You can download the video of it here: http://www.msri.org/web/msri/online-videos/-/video/showVideo/11928
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The Cro-Magnon man was dated at ~35,000 BC.
Dinner and a movie? Tricky in those days.
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes" - Winston Churchill
Ricardo Montalban was a kick ass narrator.
Yep
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Wrong meme.
Required reading for internet skeptics
Hahaha! Yes, he was carbon-dated... it's a new kind of ice-cream! ;)
They'd do it and be great at it, if our country valued science a little more.
Finally! Now I can explain to my bosses what the Flame virus means! 11-year old is exactly the level of understanding we need.
RTFA and cry. This is the wrong flame!
First, everybody knows it's there. Then, it has been there for millennia. Finally, nobody is afraid of it.
What a disappointment.
I'd pick Sheldon Cooper ;). The episode almost writes itself...
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
Cro-Magnon man was smarter than you think. Didn't need to pay for dinner and a movie.
Just took her straight to the bear-skin rug in front of the fireplace...
All educational media use this scenario now.
Wait, you were a group of the "best and brightest budding scientists" and no one wore prescription eyeglasses? Or was this at night?