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A Digital Citizen's Bill of Rights

New submitter matt.a.f writes "Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) has published a first-draft Internet Bill of Rights, and it's open for feedback. He wrote, 'While I do not have all the answers, the remarkable cooperation we witnessed in defense of an open Internet showed me three things. First, government is flying blind, interfering and regulating without understanding even the basics. Second, we have a rare opportunity to give government marching orders on how to treat the Internet, those who use it and the innovation it supports. And third, we must get to work immediately because our opponents are not giving up.' Given the value of taking an active approach agains prospective laws such as SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA, I think it's very important to try to spread awareness, participation, and encourage elected officials to support such things."

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  1. Is that really happening? by azalin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It might be interesting to monitor what happens to this in a few months time. Will it be simply ignored, shelved or "noted as valuable input" and then ignored. I'm getting a bit pessimistic about common sense and politicians accepting input from the public lately.
    I really hope something good will come out of this, but I won't hold my breath.

    1. Re:Is that really happening? by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The reality is, all you can do is publicly support it. Even if it is empty politics, the greater the public support the more they will have to take notice of it and the greater the risk of ignoring it. It matters not what party, whether conservative or progressive is arbitrary, at the end of the day all that counts is policy. The internet bill of rights for individuals is good policy, the greater the support, the greater the impact of the policy. Even if it is a political scam, should the response be strong enough, the politician will find themselves bound by as the backlash would be to severe to just ignore it. So pile on there and pass it on and then see what will come of it.

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  2. We already have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We don't need an "Internet Bill of Rights." The government just needs to adhere to the actual "Bill of Rights" that's already in the Constitution, and we'll be ok.

    1. Re:We already have one by Vanderhoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We don't need an "Internet Bill of Rights."

      I don't know about that. I think the internet has developed into something bigger, It's an entity all to itself. I think it pretty well needs to be or have it's own government to protected it from all other governments. It's not just the US government that's attacking the internet and it's users and we need a collective voice out there telling all governments to "step off", this is outside their realm of influence and anyone anywhere at anytime should be able to use the internet as a medium to share ideas.

      The problem is the internet can't fight back because there is not central authoritative "leader" to fight back, but it is powerful, which is why I think governments are working to control it and it's contents. Look what happened when SOPA was proposed, all the sudden there was outrage. Using the internet we were all able to collectively say fuck off and what happened!? The government backed down. Unfortunately they've only backed down until people have forgotten what they tried to do, they'll learn form their mistake and come after the internet again. Next time we might not be able to stop them.

      Being able to get all governments to agree anyone using the internet should have certain rights is the first step to creating an internet government that will have the ability to fight for what all it's users collectively want.

  3. The problem with these efforts by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Politicians eventually end up consulting "industry experts" (read that as corporate representatives) for advice/bribes to help craft the legislation. Then, we end up with a watered down or punched-full-of-loopholes version of a great idea. We're a full blown fascist government now. There simply aren't enough politicians willing to give up the power and post-Congress paybacks to make something like this happen.

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  4. Re:Darrel Issa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then say "copyright and trademarks and patents". They are nothing like property.

    Property is inalienable from the person, it's one of the reasons governments exist.

    Copyright is _meant_ to expire and soon.
    Patents are _meant_ to expire and soon (no, really, that's why we as a society have them: so they expire).

    Your deed for your house is not meant to expire.

    So use the right words and not 1984 newspeak.

  5. Re:Government actually working for the people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. It's rare to see a politician, let alone a Republican, taking a stand to help protect freedom.

    I'm nott surprised. No matter how evil you might think that a person is I have strong doubts that you can find a person who doesn't consider themselves as good.
    Conflict doesn't occur because there is a good and evil side, they occur because there are two or more views on what is good.

  6. "Bill of Rights" cliche by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am getting annoyed with lawmakers calling this or that a "Bill of Rights." We've have the Airline Traveler's Bill of Rights, and the Credit Card User's Bill of Rights, and now this. To call these feeble gestures "Bills of Rights" cheapens the real Bill of Rights.

    If the legislature and courts would pay attention to upholding the real, one-and-only Bill of Rights, this Internet "bill of rights" would emerge as corollaries to Amendments #1 and #4.

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  7. Re:Government actually working for the people by schwit1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It isn't corporate greed that is bankrupting California, it is Union greed. Corporations and unions are no different in their self-interest at the expense of everyone else.

  8. Re:Government actually working for the people by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Citing the wsj for an anti-union story is like citing linux.com for an anti-microsoft article, or citing Fox News for an anti-Obama article. As to "Corporations and unions are no different in their self-interest at the expense of everyone else", that's incorrect. Whether you're in a union or not, you can blame or praise them for safer working conditions, wekends, paid vacations, sick leave, and a host of other things you would never have had were it not for unions. When the union wins, the only losers are management and the 1%, those who work for a living always win when the union wins whether or not they're in a union.