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How Steve Jobs Changed Google Plus
Anthony_Cargile writes "Everyone thinks of Google Plus as a social networking website competing with Facebook, but that is no longer the case — even Google recognizes its failure in that regard. But in a meeting with Sergey Brin and Larry Page shortly before his death, Steve Jobs gave key advice as to what direction to take their company with regards to Google Plus, as is evidenced by their controversial new 'umbrella' privacy policy that went in effect this year. Privacy advocates beware, as the problem is almost certainly worse than ever anticipated."
This is the same man who came up with "MobileMe" and Ping. Remember those massive failures? No? That's because the media ignores them in portraying Apple as a company that never makes a mistake.
Yes, as in none. I don't use any of them.
Slow news day much? This article is devoid of news, consists solely of "Duh!" opinions rendered in awkward sophomoric prose, and is all too typical of the low standards of fourth-tier tech sites. "The leader in technology news and commentary"? Maybe at your particular high school.
Sent from the iPad I found in your car.
Google+ gets fun to look at. Google seeds your timeline with nifty examples of posts from all different people. Like for example blogger posts stuff about making blogs.. Then Google will put random posts from different people. It's not boring like Facebook, where only your friends show up on your timeline.
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I like how the article quite randomly mentions that Jobs used to do LSD, for no apparent reason:
"But where does Steve Jobs fit into all this? Before he passed, the famed Apple CEO (and former LSD user) met with Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, with Page as Google CEO by that time."
I'm not sure exactly what reaction that little interjection was supposed to elicit from the reader...
I also never go to the park, because people might photograph me. I stick to the shadows, and only go out at night, wearing a mask.
-Clio
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There's nothing in the article (yes, I read it). It's just what everyone already knew - Google+ is one more Google service and will continue to exist and act as a data source to better target their advertisements. Big deal. The actual content of the unified privacy policy remains less threatening than most, even if people continue to cower at its mere existence. The contribution that it mentions from Steve Jobs is essentially non-existent, and I've already written more than this thing deserves.
They were so non-traditionally successful that they were too good for ordinary people. Think different.
TFA explains it - if you're using YouTube, Google search, gmail, or any other google service, you're using Google+. It's just a big wrapper for the whole experience. No one cares if you aren't posting about drunken weekend escapades because your digital footprints are just as valuable without the meaningless banter that serves as an excuse to use the FaceTubes.
he invites this treatment with his historical treatment of others, and his arrogant narcissism.
Seriously, he died months ago, we can stop jerking off all over his legacy now...
Steve Jobs is dead, but contrary to the summary, Larry Page is still alive and well.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
I stab myself in a different part of the leg every night to thwart gait-detection.
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I have to agree. There are less users, but they are overall more useful. I subscribe to the photography and technology groups, so I have a neverending stream of nice photos and interesting gadgets to look at on a slow news day. In fact, I sometimes learn about new gadgets even before they pop up on slashdot. So, G+ is aimed at a different group of people, and that being so does not make it a failure. Facebook pretty much has the market cornered with the Farmville and other online game types, G+ news seems to have more news from creative types. Also, G+ is easy to train, and after weeding out the worst spammers, the rest is all good. -Evert Vorster-
Even dead, Steve is far more interesting than all of /. commentators put together, more interesting than almost every CEO in the entire tech industry.
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Think about it next time you bash Apple.
That's what they said about Aristotle every time someone challenged some aspect of the great man's system. Maybe that's why it took 1800 years for the heliocentric model of the solar system, and the experimental basis of science, to gain any traction.
Just because someone has impressive stature doesn't mean that everything s/he did has to be worshipped and parrotted.
Where do you get off calling MobileMe a massive failure?
Well, Steve Jobs called MobileMe and the MobileMe team a massive failure himself.
"Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?" Having received a satisfactory answer, he continues, "So why the f*** doesn't it do that?"
Steve Jobs summoned the entire MobileMe team for a meeting at the company's on-campus Town Hall, accusing everyone of "tarnishing Apple's reputation." He told the members of the team they "should hate each other for having let each other down", and went on to name new executives on the spot to run the MobileMe team.
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Even dead, Steve is far more interesting than all of /. commentators put together, more interesting than almost every CEO in the entire tech industry.
CEOs are not so important as they (and you) think.
Steve & Steve (Jobs/Woz) formed the very computer industry you are enjoying now. No, it was NOT IBM. Their PC came out AFTER the Apple I/II as a response.
There were also Kenbak, Micral, Altair, Atari, Commodore, Sharp, Tandy/Radio Shack, etc... producing computers at that time.
Steve was tremendously influential in the Music, Movie, Smartphone, Computer, Retail sections. Apple haters tend to loath him and Apple. But you totally underestimate what a world without Apple would look like today. It would be frightening. The PC wouldn't exist (probably) as the PC-standard was only invented as a quick&dirty effort as response to the Apple 2.
I'm not an Apple hater, but you're exagerating. Saying that the IBM-PC was an answer to the Apple ][, is as saying that the Apple ][ was an answer to IBM's 5100. The IBM-PC was an answer to all 70s microcomputers.
The GUI wouldn't be there where it is now. (and not Xerox wouldn't have sold it. They had only a raw prototype and their own managers said it wouldn't be marketable)
Perhaps VisiOn or one of the other projects at the time would have happened.
Smartphones would still be in the iron grasp of carriers, filled with bloatware and branded to death. The iPhone was the first one were the carriers had ZERO influence.
That is very US-centric. Here in this part of Europe, the carriers never had any influence on smartphones at all.
Tablets would probably still be synonymous with failed Tablet-PCs featuring WinXP.
So you admit that tablets were happening before jobs. WinXP tablets were more popular than Apple's Newton. iPad was more popular than WinXP tablets.
etc, etc. No, Steve was not holy, innocent or a general good guy. Nevertheless, should he be recognised as one of the greatest figures in IT history. Yes he was that important. And no, it is not natural that someone else would have come along and did the same as Steve. Otherwise there would already be the next Rockstar CEO somewhere. But there isn't. Think about it next time you bash Apple.
Jobs was important to IT history. But he was not as important as you make him. And don't worry, new rockstars pop up all the time - they will as long as there are fans.
Google+ on the ther hand...
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
"You're holding it wrong." "Just avoid holding it that way." "Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong."
That's how they protected Salmon Rushdie
What were they protecting him from? Bears? Fishermen?
I used to do LSD for no apparent reason, too...
-- You are in a maze of little, twisty passages, all different... --
So you mean the big fuss is over them being able to do "grep $googleid unified_services_access.log" instead of "grep $googleid *service_access.log"?
Google+ on the ther hand...
is an actual manifestation of Shroedinger's cat
C= made a PC too in the 70s
C= made a cheaper home fun computer than Apple
C= made a better color computer than Mac System 6
The C= Amgia could emulate the Macs+OS via ROM module or (copy rom as most did via BBSs). The Rom in ram ran faster. The Emulator patched some OS calls to be asyncronous and ran faster and better that a real mac did. And also ran Amiga apps at the same time as Mac Apps.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.