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The $45 Windows Laptop

YokimaSun writes "The search for a cheap laptop has brought us news from India of a $10 laptop (which later turned out to be a hundred dollars). Today PC Gaming News has details of a laptop which is selling for a measly 45 dollars, what do you get for that, you get a netbook running windows embedded compact 7, 128 megs of ram, a via8505 processor and a 7 inch screen capable of 800x480 pixels resolution." I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook.

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  1. "I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook."

    What is the point of this kind of trolling in article summaries, really?

    1. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook."

      You'd have better luck waiting for Duke Nuke- ...er..wait.. guess we can't use that one anymore.

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    2. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that hasn't been true in a long time. You might be able to get a similarly spec'ed laptop if you didn't care about form-factor or style that much, but then it's not really the same product. The new Mac Book Pro has taken things even further by giving the best resolution available for the money. Doing a quick price comparison can show you they aren't overpriced at all. The Dell Ultrabook XPS 13 currently retails for $999, while the Mac Book Air 13" retails at $1199. Of course the Mac is more, but it has a 1400x900 screen as opposed to 720p resolution, 1.8GHz CPU as opposed to 1.6GHz CPU and a height of 0.68 inches vs. 0.71 inches. The rest of the main features seem to be about the same, and while some may say, what's the difference between .68 and .71 inches, well, it's still 5%, which takes quite a lot of engineering to get rid of when you are looking at laptops of this size. Mac laptops are quite competitively priced, the only problem is they've decided not to make $400 laptops. Which is fine, because there is no money to be made in that market anyway.

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    3. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm amazed how few people actually price shop before they claim the Apple laptops are overpriced. I find them to be +/- 10% of a roughly-equivalent Dell/HP/Lenovo.

      It is correct to say that Apple's laptops are expensive - they don't offer anything at all on the low-end.

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    4. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no such thing as a good trackpad, they are all equally terrible. I will keep my trackpoint nub, thank you very much.

    5. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm amazed how few people actually price shop before they claim the Apple laptops are overpriced.

      I did just that when I bought my new laptop a couple of years ago. My Toshiba cost $1100 while the closest equivalent Mac -- AFAIR it had a sligfhtly faster CPU, less RAM and a smaller hard drive -- was about $2500.

      So yes, overpriced it was.

    6. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by Missing.Matter · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think that hasn't been true in a long time.

      I'm not so sure. A couple years ago I bought an HP Envy 15 for $999 after rebates with 1600x900 display, 160GB ssd, extra battery, 4 GB RAM... I don't remember what the exact specs were for an equivalent Macbook Pro, but I did significant price comparison and the Macbook was over $2000 for lesser hardware in every regard. Just priced out a brand new Envy 15 comapred to the brand new Macbook pro, and here's what we get:

      Envy 15
      Display: 15.6" 1920x1080
      Processor: 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
      Graphics: 1GB Radeon(TM) HD 7750M GDDR5 Graphics
      Storage: 750GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
      Memory: 6GB 1600DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
      Height: 1.11 inches
      Weight: 5.79 lbs
      Battery Life: 10 hours
      Warranty: 2 years
      Price: $1,350.00


      Macbook Pro 15
      Display: 15.4" 1440 x 900
      Processor" 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz) with 6MB L3 cache
      Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 512MB of GDDR5
      Storage: 500GB 5400-rpm hard drive
      Memory: 4GB of 1600MHz DDR3
      Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
      Weight: 5.6 pounds
      Battery Life: 7 Hours
      Warranty: 1 year
      Price: $1800


      So from my perspective, for $450 less (and this isn't even without ninja rebate magic like I pulled on my last Envy) I'm getting better graphics, more storage, more memory, better display, bigger display, longer battery life, longer warranty, and I'm also getting a decent built laptop with premium features like aluminum casing, slot load DVD, and backlit keyboard, and basic features not available on the macbook pro like HDMI port, display port, 3 USB ports, higher maximum memory (16gb as opposed to 8gb for the macbook pro... how is this a "pro" model again?)

      If the Macbook Pro was really a premium model with premium build and premium specs, then yes, I'd be willing to spend more on it. But it just looks like more money for less value all around. You're really paying a premium for .16" of height, OSX, and the Apple branding as far as I can tell.

    7. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by jerk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used to think the same thing until I used the newer Apple glass trackpads. There is no comparison, really. And the gestures are nice feature and work well.

    8. Re:"I'm still waiting for my under $50 Macbook." by mastermind7373 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have used it. It was inaccurate and clunky. I have NEVER needed to rotate a photograph inaccurately in increments smaller than 90 degrees. When I need to rotate something precisely, I enter the numeric value or use a mouse, where I have support for my wrist to allow precise control.

      The zoom functionality works well when the application supports smooth zooming. Otherwise, it's just as clunky trying to pick one of 3 locked percentages. This is a functionality support issue.

      The scrolling drives me nuts. I HATE physics emulated scrolling. A simple friction slowdown is far more controllable and intuitive TO ME.

      I realize Apple user's quite enjoy their trackpad. I simply wanted to point out that there are some of us who find it gets in our way. It's not universally better, it's suited to it's target audience: you.

  2. This will be awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The VIA8505 SoC is a AWFUL chip. I have a tablet based one of these running Android and it SUCKS.

  3. Maybe the editors could actually read submissions? by mykepredko · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is an eBay sale of a discontinued netbook.

    As somebody pointed out, if you wanted a $50 netbook, they can look on Craigslist or eBay themselves.

    Nothing new or interesting here,

    myke

  4. Re:Lol... by hobarrera · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think you're just trolling. Why would you need more than 128MB to connect to a VM, that'd be a simple dumb terminal... I'm pretty sure dumb terminals at that resolution can run just fine with those specs.

  5. Correct me if I'm wrong... by julesh · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... but isn't Windows 7 Embedded Compact the new name for what used to be called (much more appropriately) WinCE?

    In other words, this is an almost-useless piece of junk that runs a nearly dead operating system that is being dropped by MS in its next version.

    I bought something very similar in the UK for about £30 a couple of years ago. It was useless then, it'll be useless now.

  6. I've got one smaller! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've got a "laptop" that's about 2 1/2 x 4 inches or so, runs Android, and doubles as a phone... Wait... It *IS* a phone!

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  7. Could be an intersting device. by wvmarle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting, and inbelievably cheap - not just becasue of the Windows license fee; no idea how much they pay for that. It's Windows CE so linking to the normal Win7 retail prices doesn't make sense.

    OS: Windows CE. Never worked with that, no idea on the interface. Should include a browser, assume IE. But what version for WinCE?

    Storage: not mentioned. Is this a "true" netbook as in can only do web browsing and web apps? Price could imply no local storage indeed, other than for the embedded OS. The ebay listing has no details at all. They are selling, shipping US only.

    Install other OS? Well if no external storage, good luck with that.

    Install applications? No mention about this. No external storage could be an issue there.

    Form factor looks like the EEEPC 701 series, that's not too bad. It has a higher screen resolution. I like the overall idea. I'm still regularly using that EEEPC, almost exclusively for web browsing. It's sitting on the dining table, quick to grab, small enough to not be in the way too much, light enough to move around with one hand.

  8. Can't wait to see so-called "gamers" buy this by GerbilSoft · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the article:

    Powered by a Pentium processor

    Processsor Type: VIA 8505

    Not only did they get the company wrong, it's not even x86 architecture. VIA 8505 is ARM-based. This isn't even including the fact that it runs Windows CE (aka Windows Embedded Compact), so standard Win32 programs wouldn't run on it, even if compiled for ARM.

    1. Re:Can't wait to see so-called "gamers" buy this by GerbilSoft · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bonus round: Some editor got duped into posting a slashvertisement for an eBay auction. The netbook in question has been available from Amazon since August 2010. (Not the exact model number, but besides running Windows CE 6.0 instead of Windows Embedded Compact 7, the specs are the same.)

      http://www.amazon.com/SYNET7WID-7-Inch-Wireless-Mobile/dp/B003ZYUCDS

  9. Not "Windows" in any meaningful sense by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I saw this same (or very similar) model on sale at the local CVS. One reason it's so cheap is that it doesn't run "Windows" in any meaningful sense. It runs an embedded-system OS that is called Windows, but isn't compatible with any existing Windows software. (Look for much more of this kind of confusion with the upcoming WinRT for ARM.) Furthermore, since this netbook doesn't have an x86 processor, it can't run the real version of Windows.

    1. Re:Not "Windows" in any meaningful sense by Rogue+Haggis+Landing · · Score: 4, Informative

      I saw this same (or very similar) model on sale at the local CVS.

      I'm pretty sure this is the Sylvania netbook that appeared in 2010 for $99 at CVS. Reviewers were not kind about it, but the novelty of buying a $99 computer at a drug store was sort of fun. It's no surprise that 21 months later it's dropped under $50.

      These little craptops have always intrigued me, and it's just a matter of time before someone puts out one in the under-$100 range that's not entirely terrible. There's this guy that is available new from lots of ebay sites (I chose this one at random and am not endorsing it). It runs Android 2.2 and sports 256 mb of RAM. I haven't seen any kind words about it and from the specs it's likely still terrible, but you're starting to approach something respectable. It's not that far from being a 7" version of the Efika MX SmartBook, which isn't a world beater by any stretch, but which is light and fanless and runs Linux and sort of harks back to what was fun about early netbook.

  10. Re:Lol... by CubicleZombie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would you need more than 128MB to connect to a VM, that'd be a simple dumb terminal... I'm pretty sure dumb terminals at that resolution can run just fine with those specs.

    Once Corporate IT gets ahold of it, it'll need 4GB and a couple of cores just to keep up with Symantec Endpoint Protection.

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  11. Re:Lol... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need a moderation option for "+1 Sad Reality"

  12. This is not new, they used to be $99 by davydagger · · Score: 3, Informative

    and utter crap. ARM class CPU is locked to windows CE. the specs if I recall are a 350mhz cpu, 128 mb of ram, 4-8 Gb storage, USB 1.1, and a useless 800x480 display. Utterly worthless. I tried researching instructions for installing linux, not easy. All for trash grade hardware. If you did want a slick arm based netbook try: https://www.genesi-usa.com/

  13. Re:$1200 is not a good price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't frankly care if something is 2 inches or 2.5 inches thick. Nor wether it has 800 resolution which I won't be using anyway. What I do care about is a floppy disk drive, plenty of serial ports and an a dial-up modem so I don't have to rely on shit dongles when in an office or at home.

    Oh , but it doesn't have that.

    Laptops in general are nothing more than vanity machines for people with more money than sense.

    Mod me down fanboys, I care not and I have karma to burn.

  14. Re:$1200 is not a good price by Eivind+Eklund · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For what I need, I'm probably going to install Unix (FreeBSD or Linux) on it and be paying an extra $1000 or so primarily for a better trackpad and an easier to connect/disconnect power supply chord - and that is worth it to me.

    I've just got to say, holy fuck!

    I usually have a computer for 3 to 5 years; let's say four years on average. That's less than 70 cents a day. I use it for a fair bit of time every day, and I immediately appreciate a better trackpad (and regularly appreciate slot loading as opposed to tray loading DVD; forgot that annoyance point). I also am more likely to move to a better spot (more ergonomically wise) if there's no hassle with the power supply cord, and I'm less likely to get the machine damaged or trip from the power supply cord with the better connection.

    All in all, it's worth 70 cents a day to me. If I was extremely money constrained in general, it might not be - but I have a comfortable income and having the computer I spend a lot of time on be comfortable to me is worth it.

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