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NASA and FAA Team To Streamline, Regulate Commercial Space Access

coondoggie writes "The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and NASA today said they signed an agreement to coordinate standards for commercial space travel of government and non-government astronauts to and from low-Earth orbit and the International Space Station (ISS). The main goals of the agreement are to establish a framework for the emerging commercial US space industry to help streamline requirements and multiple sets of standards and ultimately to regulate public and crew safety."

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  1. I hope that doesn't work the normal way... by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that joint-bureaucracy works...

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    1. Re:I hope that doesn't work the normal way... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2

      Precisely.

      Let's hope that they emphasize the "streamline" and minimize the "regulate". Look at how much both the FAA and NASA accomplished in the beginning, then look at how (relatively) little they have accomplished now that they are huge bureaucracies. Then look again at how much small operations, without all the bureaucracy and regulation, have accomplished. Like Scaled Composites and SpaceX.

  2. Re:Also... by davester666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This will totally work, because there is no place else to launch a rocket except within the continental US.

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  3. Re:Why two agencies? by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not assign the management of the nation's airspace to the Secretary of the Interior.

    Um... because the nation's airspace is outside?

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  4. FAA+NASA+TSA by turkeyfeathers · · Score: 5, Funny

    It won't be any fun until the TSA joins the party

    1. Re:FAA+NASA+TSA by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 2, Funny

      They'll be on it in seconds once they hear about the 'blackness of space'.

  5. This was foretold. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 2

    This was foretold. "The Man Who Sold The Moon", Robert A. Heinlein

  6. Re:Query by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actual Answer: Leave the regulatory regime completely undefined so that no one will risk launching for fear of over-restrictive 'DO SOMETHING!' regulations killing their business model after they've already settled on an approach.

    Its far better to define reasonable regulations right now than wait for poorly thought out ones to be implemented later when it becomes clear they're necessary.

    Also, the FAA AST (Office of Commercial Space) folks are very supportive of getting a real industry off the ground. They're space enthusiasts, not charicatures of empire-building bureacrats.

  7. Re:Query by SixAndFiftyThree · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually the existing pioneers, including Armadillo Aerospace, XCOR, and some others of whom you (should) have heard, are already working with the FAA and they report that the experience has not been too painful. I can't help worrying when NASA wants to get in on the act, though. NASA's main product is paper, with a few space vehicles as unintentional by-products, and they won't want to disappoint anyone ....

  8. Anticipated by The Goons by Tokolosh · · Score: 2

    FX:
    [plane engine starting, a few misfires, backfires. It stalls, followed by lots of bits falling off]

    Seagoon:
    Well, what shall we build now?

    McChisholm:
    Ah, M-mister Seagoon! Did you no notice? A moment before it fell to bits, it rose seven feet off the ground!

    Seagoon:
    Correction, five feet. Two of those feet were mine!

    McChisholm:
    If, if you ask me, sir, we've invented the hairyplane.

    FX:
    [phone rings, receiver being picked up]

    Seagoon:
    Hello?

    Grytpype-Thynne:
    [speaking over telephone] I hear you've invented the aeroplane.

    Seagoon:
    Who's this speaking?

    Grytpype-Thynne:
    The Air Ministry.

    The Goon Show
    Series 7, Episode 15
    First broadcast on January 10, 1957. Script by Spike Milligan and Larry Stephens

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  9. Re:WTF? by bobbied · · Score: 2

    There really are some necessary regulations that need to be enforced. First, they need to make sure they prevent junking up low earth orbits by making sure there are a minimum number of bits coming off anything that might end up in orbit, something NASA has the most experience with. Second, they need to make sure launch and recovery operations are properly coordinated with air traffic, which is of concern to the FAA.

    I'm sure there are a whole pile of issues that would be best to get into the FAA's regulations before private space flight becomes commonplace. The above are just a few.

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  10. I can see how it is going to turn out. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    Yes, Mr Armstrong, please put the shoes on the bin, remove your space suit, put them it on the bin, the briefcase like life support unit you are carrying, please unplug it and place it on the conveyor for x-rays, and please stand here and hold your hands over your heads please. No Mr Armstrong, oxygen cylinders are prohibited. The coolant in the life support unit is more than 3.5 fluid oz, so we have to empty it and dump it. Have a nice orbit, Mr Armstrong. Next.

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  11. Re:Here's an idea ... by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

    Leave it the fuck alone, government.

    That's not how government works.

    > If it moves, tax it.

    > If it is still moving, regulate it.

    > If it has stopped moving, subsidize it through sweetheart government deals, loans, and giveaways that benefit your campaign contributors while eliminating competition from small players, erecting barriers to entry, and screwing over any private people/entities that had already invested unless it's a labor union...they automatically go to the front of the line of the taxpayer-funded gravy train.

    Strat

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  12. Re:Query by mpthompson · · Score: 2

    The government should not be stepping in on behalf of the people on top of the rocket. Those people presumably are adults and have balanced the risks they are taking against the rewarding experience of flying into space.

    It's the people that live under the rocket that need some regulation. Presumably launching rockets out over water should minimize many of the risks to the public, but it would still be useful to have the government provide some oversight to minimize the chance of 100's of tons of high explosives raining down on a neighborhood someday.

  13. Re:Query by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
    Actual Actual Answer: Incorporate in Ireland for tax purposes, set up your headquarters in Ukraine to employ Russian rocket scientists for pennies, and launch from Kazakhstan.

    Meanwhile NASA and the FAA can carry on with their "If we had any commercial space industry, it would behave just so" fantasies in peace. To quote the great philosopher Watterson, designing the snow fort is the fun part.

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