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Chinese Crew Completes Manual Docking With Orbiting Module

A few days back, the crew of the Shenzhou 9 were along for the ride as their craft docked to — or rather, was docked to — an orbiting module. On Sunday, the docking procedure was repeated, but under the direction of the Chinese astronauts themselves rather than controllers on the ground.

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  1. Re:Congradulations China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love the smell of butthurt American in the morning!

    Seriously, can't we congratulate for once?

  2. Re:Congradulations China by M1FCJ · · Score: 5, Informative

    They tried to join ISS, A certain North American country said "never, never, never!", and it wasn't the Canadians nor Mexico.

  3. Re:Congradulations China by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US blocked them from participation in the ISS. They wanted to participate, but weren't allowed to.

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  4. Re:Congradulations China by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have to agree with AC's sentiments. "Even the Russians"? WTF? Let me just ask - how many nations, corPorations, and other entities have gone into sPace? How many have docked with anything? How many have made a landing, from which PeoPle walked away, alive and well?

    It seems that the list makes uP a rather small, exclusive club.

    So, just congratulate the Chinese. I like to bash them when it's deserved. Start a thread on consumer goods, and I'll start the bashing for you. They sell a lot of substandard shit that isn't worth the effort of carrying home if it were given to you. In this case, they've done good. Better than the US can do. We don't even have a frigging sPacecraft anymore. We are reduced to bumming rides from PeoPle who can afford transPortation.

    Doesn't that remind you of your high school and/or college days?

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  5. Is there some special about a manual docking? by nzac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Supposedly this is an advancement on an automated docking. Can someone fill me in or is this just media spin?

    1. Re:Is there some special about a manual docking? by M1FCJ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Russian automated docking systems used to fail once in a while. The famous Mir-Progress collusion was an attempt on doing a manual docking (to save money by not carrying the automated system which would burn away once the Progress would deorbit) with an unmanned spacecraft (Progress) with the guidance but no control from the manned craft (Mir) which went horribly wrong.

    2. Re:Is there some special about a manual docking? by johnny+cashed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not so simple. The Soviets had a system in place called Kurs. Kurs was engineered and produced in the Ukraine. After the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine was the sole supplier of the Kurs system and also owned the IP of said system. They wanted too much $$$ to supply and/or license the system. Russia then develops the Toru system as a backup and kludge. They were salvaging Kurs computers from automated progress modules and sending them home on the Space Shuttle. I believe that the Kurs system was actually very reliable and had no issues. Toru, on the other hand, was a contributing factor in the collision.

      So basically, due to an IP dispute, Russia developed a much inferior system and this resulted in an accident.

      Citation: http://www.answers.com/topic/kurs-docking-system

  6. Re:Congradulations China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    , even the Russians managed that.

    Very funny. Without the Russians experience with Saljut 7 and MIR there would be no ISS.

  7. Congratulations on a successful expedition by msobkow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Competition is good, and it looks like the Chinese are proving very competitive in the space race. I'm sure there will be those who claim they "stole" the technology, but regardless of how they acquired the ideas, it's still the Chinese people and industry who are making it work. And as we all know from the failed launches of other nations, even having access to an internet full of historical designs and ideas doesn't make space technology work.

    Only solid efforts and tenacity do that.

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    1. Re:Congratulations on a successful expedition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      What do you mean "stole" the technology? As part of the red scare from 1950, the US government blacklisted the guy that created the first step rocket at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and later became their director, and when the guy wanted to leave got instead five years of house arrest and was exchanged for American prisoners in the Korean war.

      This brilliant episode of American realpolitiks effectively exported the whole US rocket program (including nuclear carrier technology) to China in a felling swoop. At least the guy was decent enough to start the development of the chinese program from soviet designs instead of just ripping the US ones that he ** design himself.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen

  8. Nice Job China by Dolphinzilla · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having grown up on the Florida space coast watching Saturn V's and Space Shuttles since I was 6 - I can see the pride and excitement in the faces of the astronauts and spectators and I remember what that felt like. It's hard for me to not be a little envious. Have we "advanced" now that Obama Administration killed our manned space program (after promising not to BTW) ? I don't know.... Despite the great success of SpaceX I am skeptical that commercialized space will ever make enough money to survive without government subsidies, only time will tell. But congrats to China for a job well done, enjoy it while you can !

    1. Re:Nice Job China by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Have we "advanced" now that Obama Administration killed our manned space program

      Son, every administration since Nixon has driven nails in that coffin.

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  9. Re:Congradulations China by M1FCJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    ISS is mainly MIR-2 and its assorted bits and bobs. If Russians decide to go and play their own ball and take Mir-2 bits, the rest would deorbit and burn in no time and the Russians would still have a viable space station.

  10. Re:Congradulations China by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on man, give Ps a chance.