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Sandia's Floating, Dust-Free, Spinning Heatsink

An anonymous reader writes "Sandia Research Laboratory believes it has come up with a much more efficient solution than heatsink-fan cooling a CPU that simply combines the heatsink and fan components into a single unit. What you effectively get is a spinning heatsink. The new design is called the Sandia Cooler. It spins at just 2,000 RPM and sits a thousandth of an inch above the processor. Sandia claim this setup is extremely efficient at drawing heat away from the chip, in the order of 30x more efficient than your typical heatsink-fan setup. The Sandia Cooler works by using a hydrodynamic air bearing. What that means is when it spins up the cooler actually becomes self supporting and floats above the chip (hence the thousandth of an inch clearance). Cool air is drawn down the center of the cooler and then ejected at the edges of the fins taking the heat with it. And as the whole unit spins, you aren't going to get dust build up (ever)."

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  1. Contrarian thinking by dtmos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm reminded of the rotary engine, used in some WWI aircraft. The crankshaft was stationary -- attached to the plane's firewall -- and the entire engine block, including the cylinders, rotated around it. (The propeller was attached to the engine block.) In this way, no flywheel was necessary (the block was its own flywheel), saving weight, and the engine was cooled naturally, by the air flow over the moving cylinders. I don't know how the engines were balanced.

    In a similar manner, the Sandia Cooler moves the heatsink through the air, rather than the air through the heatsink. It's solving a different problem, but I've always been fond of contrarian thinking like this.

    1. Re:Contrarian thinking by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The main idea was not to save the flywheel weight, but to cool the engine when the aircraft is not moving. These air cooled engines have fins on the engine block to radiate the heat away. At flight speeds at high altitude cooling is not an issue. But sitting on the runway, idling, these engine blocks would melt. So they decided to spin the cylinders instead of the crank shaft.

      But such a heavy rotating mass makes for very unusual handling. When a small force is applied to a spinning disk in one direction a very large reaction happens in the mutually perpendicular third direction. Some fighter pilots would use it to make very very tight left turns, (or a right turn depending on the spin). Sometimes they would use two banks of cylinders counter rotating. Or two engines counter rotating to balance the angular momentum.

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    2. Re:Contrarian thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not keep the fans still and instead rotate the cpu ? Spinning the whole computer at 2000 rpm would also help with ventilation...

  2. Geez, another duplicate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/07/12/1348243/the-fanless-spinning-heatsink

    Can we get some new editors??

    1. Re:Geez, another duplicate? by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's amazing!

      Hey, everyone! We landed on the moon!!

  3. dust by Shotgun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But...all my fans get a layer of dust on each fan blade. What are they doing differently that will stop this?

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  4. Will it work in laptops? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given the possibility of dynamic movement of a laptop during its use, will the Sandia Cooler work inside of a laptop?

  5. Re:Thousandth of an inch by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must be a hard drive hater.

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  6. Re:Thousandth of an inch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually read the article, the spinning heatsink is attached to a base plate. It DOES NOT sit directly on a CPU die.

  7. Re:Thousandth of an inch by AngryDeuce · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's an article?!

  8. Re:Startup/Heat Transfer by kylegordon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe I just didn't get the message, but what draws heat away from the die itself? This setup probably does away with thermal paste and similar junctions...

    From the video... there's a normal heatsink, and the fan draws the heat from the heatsink through the air bearing.

    The other thing is that hydrodynamic bearings are only self-supporting and quasi-frictionless after a threshold RPM is reached. Before the whole setup is spinning fast enough for hydrodynamic effects to take over, it's going to grind against the chip die, and unless they came up with something good, it's going to destroy it on startup...

    It's Sandia... I'm sure they've thought of that.

  9. Re:Thousandth of an inch by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's OK. Not even the editor read the article, or they would have seen it was from 9 months ago.

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  10. Re:Thousandth of an inch by skids · · Score: 4, Funny

    No no no, you have to work a factor of 3 in there to be truly english.

    So try 1/12/12/8 == 1/1152. And call it an eighth-undergross just to be cretinous.

  11. Re:Thousandth of an inch by RogL · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ask someone who's worked in a USA machine-shop: it's called a thousandth (the "of an inch" part is implied).
    Machinists are not programmers, so beyond about 1/64" they switch to thousandths.
    Below that, tenths (ten-thousandths of an inch).
    Below that, millionths.

  12. Dust Free.... yeah right.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear researchers, please notice how dust will cake and adhere to spinning things. Ask the airline industry how dust can cake on even turbine blades.

    It's not dust free, please take the marketing people out back and beat them with a sack of doorknobs.

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  13. Re:Thousandth of an inch by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    when we were kids we had to run park.com before turning the computer off to move the head off the platters and we were happy for it!

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  14. Re:Thousandth of an inch by ngg · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would suggest that one of the major reasons that US still uses Standard measurements in engineering has to do with "network effects" that date to the two world wars. During the second world war, European factories were heavily bombed and after the war they needed to be re-tooled. In contrast, American industry tooled up for the war, (using standard measurements) but was never bombed, leaving a surplus of high quality tools, many of which are still serviceable to this day. When you are making a new mill or lathe, it doesn't really matter whether it is calibrated in standard or metric, but re-calibrating an existing machine for a different system of units is very costly.

    On a typical manual mill, for example, turning the traverse handwheel a complete revolution moves the table by an integer number of thousandths of an inch (usually 100 or 200, which are 2.54 and 5.08 mm). To operate the mill in metric units requires either that the operator remember that a revolution is 2540 micrometers (awkward) or rebuild a significant precision part of the machine (the leadscrews and leadscrew nuts). You might think that this wouldn't be a problem with CNC mills, but many use stepper motors to turn the leadscrews. Those stepper motors might have only 200 or 400 steps per revolution (giving a resolution of 1 to 0.25 mils, or 0.0254 mm to 0.00635 mm) which can make it inconvenient to use metric units.

    If that weren't bad enough, collets (basically an adapter to hold the "bit" in the mill) come in standard sizes to hold mills (what you call a mill "bit" used on a milling machine. yes, it is confusing) of standard sizes, which are typically fractions of an inch on US equipment. When you are machining a piece of metal, the finite diameter of the mill it usually important. The accessories that go with a milling machine can easily add up to more than the cost of the machine itself. So, to really operate a mill in metric units in a convenient way, you'd also need re-purchase all the little parts that go with the mill.

    Someone is probably going to reply that these issues don't apply to modern CNC tools. I'm not familiar with those, but the point is that there are a significant number inexpensive and serviceable tools in the US that can only work with metric units in a very awkward way (or at great expense).

  15. Better Article and Interview at ExtremeTech by KonoWatakushi · · Score: 4, Informative

    See The fanless heatsink: Silent, dust-immune, and almost ready for prime time, and an interview with the inventor.

    Disbelief of the dust-immune property of this cooler is addressed in the first question of the interview:

    Jeff Koplow: I did not mean to imply that there is literally no dust fouling; some dust accumulation eventually becomes visible to the naked eye on the very leading edge of the blades. The point is that dust fouling is reduced to such a large extent that we are unable to detect any degradation of cooling performance operating the device in a relatively dirty environment over an extended period of time. Thus for all intents and purposes the dust fouling problem has been taken off the table. In contrast, with conventional CPU coolers, eventually the entire heat exchanger surface becomes entombed in dust. I suppose there are some applications in which computers are operated in extremely dusty environments that might be too much for the heat-sink-impeller. This is common sense. In trying to figure out a way around the longstanding problem of CPU cooler dust fouling, I was thinking in terms of residential and commercial environments where the vast majority of PCs are found.

    Once again, it is disappointing how many people so yearn for the status quo, when presented with clearly superior technologies. Not that they always pan out, but it is disheartening to see such hostility toward progress.

  16. Re:Thousandth of an inch by garyebickford · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ahh, the good old days - 12 inch 10 MB hard drives, and if you forgot to 'park' the head before shutdown, bad things would happen. And before that, the 'washing machine' Winchester - 5 HP stepping motors to move the heads, the drive could walk across the floor if the heads moved back and forth in resonance. And the IBM 1130, whose 1 MB 14 inch(?) removable drive had a one second mean seek time. ... I know I had a lawn somewhere. Now where did I put it?

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