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Exxon CEO: Warming Happening, But Fears Overblown

Freshly Exhumed writes "In a speech Wednesday, ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson acknowledged that burning of fossil fuels is warming the planet, but said society will be able to adapt. The risks of oil and gas drilling are well understood and can be mitigated, he said. And dependence on other nations for oil is not a concern as long as access to supply is certain, he said. Tillerson blamed a public that is "illiterate" in science and math, a "lazy" press, and advocacy groups that "manufacture fear" for energy misconceptions in a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations."

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  1. C'mon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tillerson blamed a public that is "illiterate" in science and math, a "lazy" press

    Yes, the public is about as smart as a rock. But that doesn't mean you need to spin it. Desertification of wide swaths of land as well as the acidification of the oceans will be pretty hard to deal with.

    And dependence on other nations for oil is not a concern as long as access to supply is certain

    Not a concern for Exxon, he means.

    1. Re:C'mon by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. We are now at the point in the anti-science strategy where you admit some minimalistic version of what the science is saying, but spin it so that the admission isn't a big deal.

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    2. Re:C'mon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In other words, we're at stage two.
      (For the uninitiated:
      - In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
      - Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
      - In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we *can* do.
      - Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.)

    3. Re:C'mon by Schmorgluck · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The atmosphere is a chaotic system, but the climate configuration, is a general property of it. And it's perfectly possible to study the general properties of a chaotic system with good precision. You can predict the general properties of a quantity of water boiling in a pan, even if reliably predicting the trajectory of bubbles is out of reach.

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    4. Re:C'mon by kermidge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "....society will be able to adapt."

      really means, "I've got mine. Screw everybody else."

  2. Standard PR by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Deny
    Undervalue impact
    Disassociate
    Imply fix.

    On the plus side,now that the CEO of Exxon has also said that the increase in temperatures over standard cycles i.e. Global Warming, is man made, I'm sure all you deniers will now apologize fro being wrong.

    haha, of course you want. You entrenched into an emotional opinion, so actual facts will never change you mind.

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    1. Re:Standard PR by multiben · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry, but do you actually have a virgin mobile advertisement as your sig?

    2. Re:Standard PR by Zaelath · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'll just go ahead and cut/paste my last comment to this same misrepresentation by headlines:

      Headline should be: One of the smaller Antarctic shelves stable for 2 years, new field data show.

      It's large, by comparison to your backyard at 120x60 miles, but here's an illustration of how large it is compared to the entire Antarctic Ice Sheet:

      http://www.npolar.no/npcms/export/sites/np/images/ice/maps/Antarktisk-Fimbulisen.jpg

      It's an interesting data point, but it doesn't show "Antarctic ice shelves not melting at all" any more than "OMG it's farking cold this morning" shows that the planet is cooling.

      Comprehension; it's hard.

    3. Re:Standard PR by geekoid · · Score: 5, Informative

      Irrelevant to the current event.

      Why would you thing there can only be one reason?
      It's like saying someone can't be found guilty of murder because some different case has gone unsolved.

      FACTS:
      1) CO2 , among others, is a green house gas
      2) we put billions of tons of CO2 in the air
      3) the temperature change is no top of normal cycle
      4) every other other possible reason has been shut down.
      5) the organisations the it will hurt the most are agreeing with the evidence.

      Never, ever, ever quote something from the register. For or against, it's a horrible rag .

      No model is perfect. But looking at the whole scope of events and denying them because of events like these is stupid. In fact, it's the very base of cognitive dissonance.

      Did you read the study? I assume not because then you would know how stupid it is to quote the article.

      Explain to me how this means there isn't man made global warming:
      ~~
      The mechanisms by which heat is delivered to Antarctic ice shelves are a major source of uncertainty when assessing the response of the Antarctic ice sheet to climate change. Direct observations of the ice shelf-ocean interaction are extremely scarce, and present ice shelf-ocean models struggle to predict reason able melt rates. Our two years of data during 2010-2012 from three oceanic moorings below the Fimbul Ice Shelf in the eastern Weddell Sea show cold cavity waters, with average temperatures of less than 0.1 {degree sign}C above the surface freezing point. This suggests rather low basal melt rates, consistent with remote sensing based, steady state mass balance estimates in this sector of the Antarctic coast. Oceanic heat for basal melting is found to be sup-plied by two sources of warm water that enter below the ice: (i) eddy-like bursts of Modified Warm Deep Water accesses the cavity at depth during eight months of the record; and (ii) a seasonal inflow of warm, fresh surface water flushes parts of the ice base with temperatures above freezing, during late summer and fall. This interplay of processes implies that basal melting cannot simply be parameterized by coastal deep ocean temperatures, but is directly linked to both solar forcing at the surface as well as to coastal processes controlling deep ocean heat fluxes.
      ~~
      Cherry picking data is bad, but cherry picking wrong data is .. simply stupid.
      lower then expected is not 'flat wrong'.

      Do you even understand what a model it?

      Lets be clear about that letter:
      1) Melting not as fast.
      2) In no way throws gloabale warming out the window.

      " block them from your mind"
      fuck you and your LOL.

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    4. Re:Standard PR by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes it's a fact that nobody has a good ice cap model. Simarly nobody has a solution to the N-body problem, so does that mean the theory of gravity is wrong?

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    5. Re:Standard PR by Schmorgluck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you are pretending that deforestation has been reversed? I didn't get the memo.

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  3. Here it comes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The natural progression:

    1. There is no such thing as global warming!
    2. Global warming is theoretically possible, but it's not happening.
    3. Global warming is happening, but it's no big deal.
    4. Ok, we should probably do something about this global warming before it gets worse.
    5. We're really f*cked now.

  4. Amazing! by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The CEO of an oil company tells us that burning oil isn't such a big problem! Well, I guess we can all stop worrying about that then.

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    "I'm too busy to research this and form an educated opinion, but I do have time to tell everyone my uninformed opinion."
  5. Adaptation... by dex22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The coral reefs off Australia and New Zealand announced their Climate Transition Plans in Adelaide, Thursday. The reefs, known for their outstanding beauty and fragile ecosystems, have decided to move further south. They announced their plans, which involve a 600 mile hike, as Rex Tillerson, the ExxonMobil CEO, announced plans to survey the ground they abandoned each year for new oil and gas fields.

  6. No, no, no! by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    4. Huh . . . well, look at that. Hurricanes in January. Hey, this is not a time to play the blame game. No one could have foreseen this would happen.
    5. Something must be done. Level headed people like us. Introducing Exxon Atmospheric Engineering Associates.
    6. OK, that didn't work. But hey, neon green sunsets . . . cool!
    7. Look you'all knew for decades that our product could lead to this, but you CHOSE to ignore the warnings by scientists rather than taking responsibility and choosing to use renewable energy. We were just selling a product people wanted and freely chose to use.

  7. Of course not... by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And dependence on other nations for oil is not a concern as long as access to supply is certain, he said.

    Of course not, it's not as if it's your boys who are going to get sent off to get killed, maimed for life, and left with memories that will haunt them forever, you goddamn plutocrat fuck. It's not as if nearly all of our current national security headaches (and nearly all the people killed by terrorism in the world for the last 20 years) can be traced to our meddling in the middle east AT YOUR BEHEST AND ON YOUR BEHALF. Sweet Jesus on a pogo stick, don't you people pay handlers to prevent us from seeing just what massive assholes you are?

    Notice how we never, ever hear this kind of despicable statement from people like Joe Biden, or the English royals, both of of whom have family serving? You will find no record of President Eisenhower blithely insulting the difficult job the men in Korea faced (I wonder why!). Yet there is a word that specifically refers to the kind of twunts who don't serve, then loudly cheer to have others sent to die (especially if they use privilege to avoid serving after being called to): chickenhawks. They are despicable and should be loudly shamed at every opportunity.

  8. Not Really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tillerson cleverly attacks the weakest part of research about climate change: the prospective part, about its consequences.

    In general, the short term projections that were included in the 'concensus' report by the IPCC show that the scientists underestimated the effects of global warming, so far.

    Tillerson is combining PR and salesmanship. He acknowledged the objection, and then he minimized it. After which he went on to taught the strengths of his company and it's position and even called to question the intelligence of it's detractors. It was really quite masterful, in a pathological sense, since, if you view his assertions in light of the fact that climate change, if severe enough, could challenge humanity's ability to produce enough agricultural output to support the current population, require the re-engineering of all of our coastal facilities and population centers worldwide, and require the relocation of millions of refugees who exist at subsistence level to begin with.

    Tillerson, on the other hand, is in the enviable of position of being able to outsource his move, off-shore his assets and afford to have staff make all the arrangements.