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'Wearable Computing Will Be the Norm,' Says Google Glass Team

An anonymous reader writes "In an interview with Wired, Google's Steve Lee and Babak Parviz spoke about how they've come to use Project Glass in their lives, and where they expect the mobile computing industry to go in the near future. 'We've long thought the camera's important, but since we've started using this in public and with our family and friends and in real situations, not just hidden in the Google lab, we've truly seen the power of being hands-free. ... It's my expectation that in three to five years it will actually look unusual and awkward when we view someone holding an object in their hand and looking down at it. Wearable computing will become the norm.'"

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  1. Dear Slashdort: by For+a+Free+Internet · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Please stop posting corporate advertising as "news." America needs communism now! Then everybody will have compotors.

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  2. already the norm by roman_mir · · Score: 2

    People with all the smart phones around, people with blue tooth headphones in their ears, it's already 'the norm', it's just it's not very convenient to have various electronic interfaces sticking out of your body, once the technology allows people to have all of this stuff on their bodies without the inconvenience of wires, weird gadgets that make you look like an Apocalypse Now character, then it will be part of daily life.

    1. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, screw wearable computing. We want to be cyborgs! We need to get that Man/Machine Interface up and running (and maybe a Human Error Processor).

    2. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      People with all the smart phones around, people with blue tooth headphones in their ears, it's already 'the norm', it's just it's not very convenient to have various electronic interfaces sticking out of your body, once the technology allows people to have all of this stuff on their bodies without the inconvenience of wires, weird gadgets that make you look like an Apocalypse Now character, then it will be part of daily life.

      What do you mean it's already the norm? Yeah, people wear bluetooth headsets, but's that not what I consider computing. I can't think of any other type of wearable device I consider to be already the norm.

    3. Re:already the norm by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

      I find it convenient. If you buy a non crappy BT headset you don't even notice you are wearing it. I also find it convieient that I dont need the headset in the car and the car is a large speakerphone so everyone can join in on the call. Finally, my BT helmet completes the trifecta while I am on the motorcycle.

      What is inconvenient, is that Car makers and helmet makers are too lazy to make a proper HUD system to show information in my line of sight.

      Having a camera/webcam strapped to my head is not highly important in any way. I already have that in my secondary BT headset, a LooxCie camera/BT headset. It's actually quite worthless having a camera on my head all day long, unless I want to live cast boring as hell things... Which is what people do with these.

      The biggest convenience is I can easily unplug by removing the headset and upgrades to newer tech at a whim. Silly people that want surgery to have their interface will always be using way out of date hardware.

      Anyone using implants will be using tech that is at least 5 years out of date, the FDA approval of devices for implant will take at least that long. Let alone that the $199 premium headset will cost $999 plus $12,500 for insertion by a surgeon.

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    4. Re:already the norm by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      All these 'smartphones' are computers and they are worn on people. Some have computers in their watches, they are worn.

    5. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      All these 'smartphones' are computers and they are worn on people.

      Uh, no. Nobody 'wears' a smartphone. They carry a smartphone, sure, but that's an entirely different word and meaning.

      Watches are possible, but I haven't seen a single person wearing a watch in the past five years. I doubt pip boys are going to come into fashion, given that there's nothing that can be done on a watch-sized system that can't be done better on a smartphone.

      Wearable computers simply aren't happening. What, your password is in your other pants? About the only rational possibility for them would be some sort of hilariously terrible glasses-equivalent. While that'd make DBZ geeks happy (WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY?!?!?), such an interface would be a disaster from the usability - not to mention, sanity - standpoint.

    6. Re:already the norm by karnal · · Score: 1

      I would LOVE to have an HUD in my motorcycle helmet! Some bike makers' styling prefers to put a speedo and other pertinent information down on the gas tank (mainly cruisers, which are more popular in the US) and I find that to be disconcerting in high traffic areas. Keeping track of your speed shouldn't take you away from your main job - staying alert and aware of what's happening around you in traffic. Can you tell my current bike is a cruiser? My next one will probably be an adventure-touring bike similar to the Concours or FJR1300A, where the information is closer to the natural line of sight.

      Cars would be neat to have fitted with an HUD as well - however it takes a lot less time for my eyes to float down to the speedo and back up when in a car. There's a little less to worry about in driving a car too, with not having to worry about balancing or counter-steering to keep you out of harm's way.

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    7. Re:already the norm by jo42 · · Score: 1, Funny

      people with blue tooth headphones in their ears, it's already 'the norm'

      And they look like 'tards. So looking like a 'tard is becoming the norm. Then we all better learn to look like a 'tard just to fit in.

      Can't wait until walking around with yer thumb up yer arse becomes 'the norm'...

    8. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a cyclist, I would LOVE for you *NOT* to have a HUD in your motorcycle helmet!

    9. Re:already the norm by stg · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am aware of 3 or 4 car models already with HUDs, including the Camaro. Honda Civic's in the last few years have a big digital speed display above the steering wheel. It is much easier to read and I am always bothered when driving another car with a regular speedometer...

      I have also seen speed HUDs for skiers before with special glasses, aren't there any already for bikes?

    10. Re:already the norm by joss · · Score: 1

      > Watches are possible, but I haven't seen a single person wearing a watch in the past five years.

      Hermit, prisoner or blind ?

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    11. Re:already the norm by spectral · · Score: 1

      So as a cyclist, you would love for people who are riding things that weigh a lot more than you do and which can hit a hole and fly in to you at any moment.. to take their eyes off of the road, look down, refocus their eyes on their gas tank, make sure they're going a legal speed, and then look back up.

      You should explain why you would prefer this situation over having the information already available to the motorcyclist without moving the head/refocusing the eyes at all.

    12. Re:already the norm by oursland · · Score: 1

      I have a coworker who just picked up a 2012 BMW 328i, which has a HUD integrated into the line of sight. The technology is there, but it is only available for the early adopters that can afford it.

    13. Re:already the norm by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      The pontiac grand prix had them as far back as 1997

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    14. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be aware of your speed by without having to constantly look at your dashboard!!! Just by feel, or using the surrounding scenery. The HUD is cool, but it may very well be banned, in certain states your not even allowed to have ANYTHING hanging from you rear view mirror, including a handicap tag, you can hang the tag once the car has been parked.

    15. Re:already the norm by tftp · · Score: 1

      Hermit, prisoner or blind ?

      He is right. Wristwatches remain only as fashion items, often very expensive ones. From practical point of view, though, a cell phone is far more practical - it tells you the date and the time, has an alarm clock, a notepad, a calculator, a text message service, a Web browser, and if all that fails you still can call people.

      I have a wristwatch, but I do not wear it. There are very, very few occasions when I must know the time constantly throughout the whole day (like when I travel.) Then I wear it. Otherwise I'm surrounded by clocks - in phones, in computers, in my car, and in every business. A wristwatch is not an expensive item, but it is simply useless today. Besides, some people dislike their bands and bracelets. The age of a wristwatch is behind us; we are living in the era of small, pocket-sized tablet computers (also known as smartphones.)

    16. Re:already the norm by psy0rz · · Score: 1

      When the first gsm phones appeared, some people also called the users of these devices tards, assholes, yups and what not..

    17. Re:already the norm by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Wearable computers simply aren't happening. What, your password is in your other pants? About the only rational possibility for them would be some sort of hilariously terrible glasses-equivalent. While that'd make DBZ geeks happy (WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY?!?!?), such an interface would be a disaster from the usability - not to mention, sanity - standpoint.

      This.

      Just look at how poorly bluetooth does.

      Bluetooth headsets have been around for what, at least 10 years now, long before phones were smart, and I still rarely see someone using a bluetooth headset, most people are still holding the phone to their ear, even at times when they shouldn't be like while driving. And at less than $20 they're not expensive, they're just not popular.

      So they claim we're all going to have wearable computers, any day now, when they can't even get the average person to use a $20 bluetooth headset? Really?

      And let's not even mention that more than half of a smartphone's size is due to the battery to run it. So where does that large battery go on wearable computers? Or are we all going to have to suffer with a ~2 hr battery life?

      This google team is so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. Will this technology be available to average consumers someday? Sure. Will it "look unusual and awkward when we view someone holding an object in their hand and looking down at it (in three to five years)"? No.

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    18. Re:already the norm by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      take their eyes off of the road, look down, refocus their eyes on their gas tank, make sure they're going a legal speed, and then look back up.

      You check your speed often? Usually if I'm not flying by other vehicles and they're not significantly overtaking me I assume I must be going with the flow of traffic, which is usually approximately the speed limit. If I am alone, I reach the limit and don't exceed it (much) so there's no need to constantly check my speed, and on motorcycles you can tell the speed by the sound of the engine.

      So no, there's usually no need to check your speed. Do you have a vehicle that is constantly speeding up and slowing down and you're not aware of it? If so that is unfortunate and you should have that repaired because that is a significant safety hazard.

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    19. Re:already the norm by holmedog · · Score: 1

      Anyone using implants will be using tech that is at least 5 years out of date, the FDA approval of devices for implant will take at least that long. Let alone that the $199 premium headset will cost $999 plus $12,500 for insertion by a surgeon.

      I believe you are sort-of correct. The (surgically implanted) interface will be ~5 years out of date, but the actual device connecting will be up to date. At least that is the way I envision it.

    20. Re:already the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blue tooth handsets are actually pretty popular cause quite a few people feel weird holding bricks up to their ears (lets face it, a iphone may be a status symbol but its still a brick).

          Further more, you are not limited to the size of the device for wearable computers, you could have a belt made up of small lithium cells that would be light weight and higher capacity then most phones.

      It may take longer then 3-5 years but our descendants will look upon us like we look upon the watch wearers (assuming civilisation doesn't collapse before hand).

    21. Re:already the norm by Stuarticus · · Score: 1

      Any driver with half a clue should know to within 5 mph how fast they are going at any given time just by sight, those with more experience should be able to tell from the sound of the engine and the gear you're in.

      I drove for several months with a broken speedo cable, besides being slightly nervous near police I had no problems at all.

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  3. Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like I'm going to have to walk around wearing a mask if I don't want my face to be recorded.

    1. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You already do.

    2. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Move to LA. People wear nosejobs, fake teeth, fake hair, fake hair color, fake faces and fake boobs to pull the eyes from their fake faces.

    3. Re:Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah you're probably already having your face recorded by more than one camera nearly every time you leave home.

    4. Re:Heh. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      And two in his home.....

      Dammit, I let the secret out, Oh well.

      Will you please put some clothes on when you walk around in the living room. Us at the Cable company are grossed out.

      And please move the bedroom cable box to the left a little and put the bottle of hand cream elsewhere, it has been blocking our view and we have been using it as a kind of torture device for the new employees.

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  4. News at eleven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    /me looks at his digital wrist watch

    1. Re:News at eleven by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

      You ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive. You still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

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    2. Re:News at eleven by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's a shame that we still have no implanted clock which communicates the current time directly to our brain.

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    3. Re:News at eleven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's a shame that we still have no implanted clock which communicates the current time directly to our brain.

      Who needs an implant?
      Wake up every morning at 4:00am (± 10 seconds) sans any sort of external alarm..
      Usually know to within 15 seconds what time it is during the day..so long as I've 'synced' myself with a real clock at some point that day.

      However, am totally shit regarding day of week, date, sometimes year, so I'd want an implanted calendar..

    4. Re:News at eleven by AngryDeuce · · Score: 1

      Ditto. I don't know whether I'd call it a blessing or a curse, but my circadian rhythms must be extremely strong or something because I wake up at the same time every day, give or take a few minutes, get hungry at the same time every day, get tired at the same time every day...and my work hours are random and somewhat sporadic, so it's not due to any external factor I can discern. Using these 'landmarks', I can usually tell what time it is within 15 minutes or so. Wasn't always like this, I was a grand champion sleeper when I was younger, but since I hit my mid-20's it's like my internal alarm clock is set to go off at 6 AM no matter what. Even if I'm up late working on a project or something, come 6 AM I'm waking up.

      Numerical date, forget it. I caught myself writing the year 2009 on a form the other day. Why the hell my brain served up 2009 as the current year, I have no idea...

    5. Re:News at eleven by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it's a shame that we still have no implanted clock which communicates the current time directly to our brain.

      Uh, can we disable this thing for the end of June and the end of December? Being kicked in the head by a leap second might feel somewhat unpleasant...

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    6. Re:News at eleven by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It could be worse..

      If no one disturbs me, I wake up at the crack of noon +- 5 minutes. I get tired at about 4am, and to sleep at 4:30 to 5am. That's my circadian rhythm.

      If I force myself to "normal" work day patterns, I'm screwed. First off, it takes several alarm clocks, and usually someone living with me to scream at me that the alarm has been going off for an hour. Alarm clocks that reset themselves after a few minutes are worthless to me. My phone has a very obnoxious alarm clock on it. I set 4 or more alarms, about 6 minutes apart, so if I hit snooze on one, they'll keep going off at irregular intervals.

      Assuming I am awake, I'm not really. It's literally just the motions of it. I can shower, drive, and show up to work. I can't hold an intelligent conversation, and I work very slowly. Pretty much how most people would, if they were woken up at 3am and told to work. I take notes, because I won't remember what anyone tells me. Suddenly at noon, I'm wide awake. I can redesign networks in my head, and trouble shoot complex problems that have other people stumped. I don't take lunch until around 4pm, just because companies usually require it. Even then, it's food at my desk. I usually keep going until 8pm to 9pm, getting my assigned work done, plus some. 4 hours in zombie mode, and then 9 good work hours, where I do real work.

      When I get home, I have to take sleeping pills to get to sleep. Without them, I won't get sleepy again til 4am. I have to change pills every couple weeks, because I build up a tolerance quickly. My bedside table ends up looking like an OTC pharmacy.

      On this work schedule, add large amounts of ibuprofen and antacids. Waking up early leaves me with migraines all day, even after I pass the noon point where I'm actually awake. All the ibuprofen necessitates the antacids.

      The only practical way for me to be on a 8am flight is to stay up all night. On my schedule, it's not so bad (read the link above). I'm tired, but not sleepy on the 5am drive to the airport. I breeze through ticketing and security, and fall asleep at the terminal. My 100 or so new temporary closest friends make plenty of noise when it's time to get on the plane. So to my seat, and I finish my nap for the duration of the flight. When noon hits, I'm ready to conquer the world, which hopefully coincides with me getting to my destination.

      I'd trade sleep patterns with anyone else. It'd make my life so much easier.

      I have had employers who live with it. They recognize I won't be heard from until noon, and everyone knows not to try unless a building is on fire. They learn to appreciate it the fact that I am around to make production changes all night, when customer usage is minimal, and babysit the whole network until the morning shift is alive. They also appreciate the fact that my work day is 16 hours long, and I only occasionally take an hour break to go grocery shopping and the like. :)

      I'm writing this at 11am. I tried to move over to a normal day, by sleeping through the day yesterday, waking up at 6pm, going to sleep at 3am, and then I was wide awake at 6am. The migraine is in full swing right now, and I'll actually be awake in another hour.

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    7. Re:News at eleven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no. Bullshit about the migraines, I actually get real migraines and believe me you cannot do literally anything but lay down in a pitch black and silent room with a migraine. Hate it when people call their headaches a migraine, full of shit and it lessens the meaning of the word.

    8. Re:News at eleven by AngryDeuce · · Score: 1

      That sucks, man. I have a friend that is stuck on a schedule similar to yours; she's most efficient from early afternoon to about dawn, and then she crashes from 5-6 AM until sometime in the early afternoon. It's not as severe as your case, but she's also got a reputation for sleeping through every alarm, phone call, she'll wake-up momentarily when someone physically shakes her awake but then drifts off again not long after unless said person stays there until she's ambulatory. When she was going to school, she would go days without sleeping at all because she just couldn't sleep at night, no matter how tired she was; once she passed the early afternoon point, she was up until dawn. She was pretty heavily medicated for a while to try and help get her on a normal schedule, but while it did basically knock her on her ass and allow her to sleep, she never really "woke up", either, shuffling around like a zombie most of the day, which obviously is just as much an impediment to getting an education as going 40+ hours without sleep on a regular basis...

      It's caused her a lot of problems in her personal life, not to mention her career. She's ended up having to settle for a 3rd shift job in textiles manufacturing, despite the fact that it pays pretty shitty and she's way over-qualified for it, because every job she got that was actually appropriate to her education and background was a typical 9-5 and she was pretty much useless for most of the day. She's happier now that she's not having to routinely go to work on 2 hours or less sleep (if at all), but she'd obviously be much happier if she could get a job that pays her what she's worth.

    9. Re:News at eleven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think some of us are just designed for the later shift. If I get out of bed before 8:30 or 9am, I have horrible indigestion all day long, every time without fail. My remedy is to own my own business that opens at 10am every day. Since transitioning to this schedule, I haven't had indigestion once.

    10. Re:News at eleven by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Well, no bullshit. It depends on the degree. Some days it's just seeing double and I can't handle any sound, and sometimes it's hiding in the bedroom with my head under the pillows wishing it would stop.

          Just because I didn't describe a migraine well enough for you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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    11. Re:News at eleven by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          That's exactly us! Well, tell her she isn't alone.

          If she can get herself diagnosed with a sleep disorder (assuming you're in the US), such things are protected under the ADA. Of course, being legally protected, and getting an employer to hire you, is a huge difference. They have to make reasonable accommodations, but simply enough they just have to say "well, we work from 8am to 6pm, so there's no way to accommodate it."

          Employers who are flexible love people like me, because they'll get great stuff done while everyone else is asleep. Finding employers who are willing to work outside of their self imposed structure is the hard part.

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  5. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is something that I seriously want. I'm still basically not sold on smartphones, but the things you could do with this are amazing.

    1. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm still basically not sold on smartphones, ..."

      I wasn't either, but I use my navigator on it every day, it warns me if I go over the speed limit, makes a ruckus if I'm nearing a known speed-trap and gives me the nearest restaurant if I need a pause. I don't need a dictaphone anymore nor a camera. I use it to start my Webasto heating system in my car half an hour before I leave the restaurant, so that the windows a cleared from ice, the motor temperature is at optimal and the interior warm.
      There's tons of other stuff, I just rarely phone anymore, texts are much easier.

    2. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can use a $2 ice scraper with no monthly contract, and save yourself money on gas.

    3. Re:Interesting by crashumbc · · Score: 1

      You can also live in a tent in the wood and save electricity AND gas...

      What was your point?

    4. Re:Interesting by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Why spend $2 for an ice scraper? Apple has worked hard on making the iPhone thin enough to double as ice scraper, so why not use just that? :-)

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    5. Re:Interesting by der_pinchy · · Score: 0

      but u cant dumbass, all land is owned by someone so you just cant go squatting where the fuck you want. All the places near the equator that are prime living conditions are owned by shitasses.

  6. Three to five years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes and we were already going to have flying cars and mars colonies by now.

    What made the smartphone ubiquitous was that it already had a hundred years' worth of communication progenitors prior to its serving as the vehicle for the personal Internet. it will take a lot to remove the stigma that interaction with air carries. There is no one who looks sane with Bluetooth headsets on the bus.

    1. Re:Three to five years? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Yes and we were already going to have flying cars and mars colonies by now.

      It took a few more years than expected for the engineers at Area 51 to reverse engineer all that lovey technology they got their hands on in the 1940's. They still haven't figured out the drive systems though. I suspect it will be a while before that happens, since we don't exactly have the fuel here. It's kind of like reverse engineering a Prius in 1890. It could be done. It'll take a long time to re-invent the technologies to make it possible.

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    2. Re:Three to five years? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Then you'll have to buy the White Album again.....

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    3. Re:Three to five years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Yes and we were already going to have flying cars"

      We would have flying vehicles by now, when they first arrived everyone wanted them, and then the FAA banned the technology. More recently the FAA did approve a flying car but it doesn't seem to be a particularly well built flying car (???) perhaps because they don't want to encourage people to use flying cars (???) and so they figure they can approve a flying car and say "see, flying cars aren't picking up because they're a terrible idea". ... Who knows.

      Funny, my captcha is accord.

  7. Prepare to ... by yams · · Score: 0

    ... be assimilated.

  8. Some things I want first by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Self adjusting clothing, self closing shoes and a hoverboard.

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    1. Re:Some things I want first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bojo those boards don't work on water!

    2. Re:Some things I want first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your clothes are now dry."

    3. Re:Some things I want first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self adjusting clothing, self closing shoes and a hoverboard.

      Aren't you the lazy one...

    4. Re:Some things I want first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I need is a Sports Almanac from the future that shows the results of "games" for the next few years for my time.

    5. Re:Some things I want first by antdude · · Score: 1

      What about flying cars? That should be #1 especially for me when I can't drive. We know Google is working on automated drivings.

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    6. Re:Some things I want first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait until summer of 2015 and we'll start seeing hoverboards by mattel.

  9. It used to be that... by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... when you saw someone standing alone and talking, sometimes even getting animated and agitated, you thought they were crazy.

    Now you look and hope they're wearing a bluetooth headset before making a judgement.

    Soon, with the further miniaturisation of wearable computing, you won't be able to tell the difference between a gesticulating drunken bum, and a drunken, gesticulating businessman.

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    1. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I judge a man's station in life by his shoes!

    2. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once a man screaming on the street and gesticulating violently with his arms was coming towards me. I stopped surprised and just in time managed to react and get out of his way. Then I noticed the bluetooth headset and understood that he was so inmersed in the conversation he wouldn't have noticed me unless we bumped. Really terrifying, at least the gargoyles in snowcrash didn't seem to move that much.

    3. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soon, with the further miniaturisation of wearable computing, you won't be able to tell the difference between a gesticulating drunken bum, and a drunken, gesticulating businessman
      I've never been able to tell the difference. What is it?

    5. Re:It used to be that... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Soon, with the further miniaturisation of wearable computing, you won't be able to tell the difference between a gesticulating drunken bum, and a drunken, gesticulating businessman
      I've never been able to tell the difference. What is it?

      The businessman gets money for it.

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    6. Re:It used to be that... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

      you won't be able to tell the difference between a gesticulating drunken bum, and a drunken, gesticulating businessman
      I've never been able to tell the difference. What is it?

      The typical drunk bum has a better idea what he's talking about than most businessmen (drunk or sober).

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    7. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when you saw someone standing alone and talking, sometimes even getting animated and agitated, you thought they were crazy.

      Soon enough you will look crazy if you walk without talking and gesticulating.

    8. Re:It used to be that... by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

      ...you won't be able to tell the difference between a gesticulating drunken bum, and a drunken, gesticulating businessman.

      One is a babbling idiot, the other is homeless.

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    9. Re:It used to be that... by am+2k · · Score: 1

      ... when you saw someone standing alone and talking, sometimes even getting animated and agitated, you thought they were crazy.

      Now you look and hope they're wearing a bluetooth headset before making a judgement.

      That's still not decisive... The headset might not be on.

    10. Re:It used to be that... by antdude · · Score: 1

      What about when those things get very tiny or even invisible/cloaked? ;)

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    11. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obligatory reference: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1994-10-12/

    12. Re:It used to be that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a homeless person in Adelaide who has a BT headset. I have seen him several times in the city.

  10. Nokia was first with this idea by xynopsis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I once saw this concept videovideo at Nokia Research Centre in Helsinki more than 3 years ago. Too bad Nokia failed to capitalise it on time and now they are failing big time.

    1. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      the idea is much older than that.

      what nokia did there was that it had the budget for the video.

      3-5 years isn't going to cut for this stuff to breakthrough though.

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    2. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In commercials they always show these happy people who have nice houses, often on a beach, they have nice loans and other property, they have time to do nothing but laugh for some reason, their teeth are perfectly white and their clothing looks fresh and it's sunny.

      Here is what they don't show.

      Seriously though, all these ear buds and other types of earphones that go inside the ear - I can't use them. None of them, they fall out, I would like to be able to use them, but I think my ears are too small or something like like that, so to use one, I'd have to tape it to me. But then there is another problem, long ago I lived in very cold climate, I had a situation when I was stuck in the cold for too long, had some frostbite and since then my left ear had this problem - when I use the phone on the left side for more than a few minutes or have earphones on, it starts hurting and the pain is very strong and lasts for a while before it subsides. Whenever I see a commercial that shows people wearing earphones for too long (like blue tooth devices) I start having this phantom pains in my ear, it hurts even to look at that commercial :) So they are showing this nice looking chick, I am enjoying the view and all of a sudden they are showing the earpiece, crap.

    3. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Christ, 'nice loans', I meant nice lawns. Now when will the computer learn to understand not just what I typed, but what I meant, ha? Ha?

    4. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      roman_mir, be the good capitalist that you are and BUY what the commercials tell you to.

      I'm sorry that your psychological problem with your ears can't be solved by a superior private health system, though.

    5. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      'capitalis' means somebody who uses savings as investments to build up private means of production and increase his production capacity. Only in a ass backwards society somebody can think that a 'capitalist' means a consumer.

    6. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Lumpy · · Score: 0

      You do realize that is the man that invented all the technology in "project glass" what google is doing is completely based off of his research and designs.

      Prof Mann is the Tesla of this century and is pushing the limits of the technology. He was wearing the equivalent of "project glass" back in 1997 just as full glasses.

      He invented it all, not google engineers.

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    7. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Christ, 'nice loans', I meant nice lawns. Now when will the computer learn to understand not just what I typed, but what I meant, ha? Ha?

      Well, I'm pretty sure they also have nice loans. And when they lose those, they'll also lose the nice lawns.

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    8. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Well, I had him as a prof back in 96, he was just as weird then as he is today on that picture, so what is your question in terms of what I am supposed to 'realise'?

    9. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Serious question : by that definition would you consider a reseller a capitalist? E.g., is being a middle man a form of "production"?

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    10. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Resellers add value. They invest in inventory, marketing, and point of sale issues. I don't know if I would quite define it as "production", as that conjures up thoughts of manufacturing, but they do add value.

      You could make the argument that Toyota is a middle man... they don't actually make most of thier parts... they just assemble them.

    11. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      A reseller has his own means of production, reseller is part of the distribution channel, do you think it is more efficient for every company that produces widgets (or whatever, food, energy, etc) to take care of all of the logistics and distribution channels, to set up their own stores, or can you understand that specialisation allows for best results (as long as this specialisation is something that market values)?

      Clearly the market proves that having separate companies that handle logistics, delivery, shipping, handling, storage, etc., is better for the economy, it creates competition in all of these functions and creates economies of scale.

      As to pure speculation - this is an important market function, it discovers true prices for things. What I mean is - when the gov't says: speculators are causing oil prices to go up, what they are not telling you is this:

      1. Oil prices are not going up, it's inflation that destroys value of money, more fiat cash is chasing the same resources. In case of oil there is more production than ever and lowest consumption levels in 11 years, so it's not normal supply/demand curve at play.

      2. Speculators keep prices LOWER than they would otherwise be. The alternative is that there are no speculators and instead somebody buys the oil as a long term investment and holds it and eventually prices go higher and higher because of it. Speculators are on BOTH sides of every futures deal, so they bet that prices will go down as well as betting that prices will go up. Speculators create a much more efficient market, where prices are much closer to what the market really believes they should be.

      This means the following outcome: those who need to buy the oil will not get the WRONG signal about oil prices, they will KNOW what the prices are and will not make WRONG decisions based on WRONG oil prices at that very moment (the more speculation, the closer to the real prices the current prices are).

      Second: the producers do not get the WRONG signals about consumption patterns, so it's possible to grow or slow down the production capacity.

      In an economy it's important to have all the CORRECT signals about prices. With the wrong signals the resources in the economy get mis-allocated.

      Now look at it from the perspective of money - interest rates are price for money, price of having savings or not saving and spending as quick as possible on consumables.

      Artificially set by government low interest rates give market the WRONG signal that there are huge savings in the economy (this is normal supply / demand, if the supply levels are too high, it means the demand is much lower than what is produced).

      With artificial wrong interest rates, with very low ones the economy prevents real savings from being accumulated.

      With artificially wrong high interest rates, the economy creates too much savings and doesn't allow the people to enjoy some fruits of their labour.

      Thus here lies a huge problem of government meddling with the economy by fixing prices, and interest rates are price for money, and misallocation of resources is what creates all of the economic failures, the asset bubbles that are created, the destruction of savings and thus destruction and driving away of the investment capital, which means reduction in production capacity, loss of productivity (and loss of jobs and also of tax revenues, by the way).

    12. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Oh, and since the question was: are resellers capitalists, the answer (based on my previous response to your question) is yes.

      Of-course resellers are capitalists. Distribution channels, suppliers, storage, shipping, handling, logistics, stores, all of this requires using savings and building up the tools needed for production (in their case the production means services) they have tools - from storage facilities and trucks, to shelf space and stores, shipment lanes, and knowledge.

      Knowledge and means to organise knowledge is an important tool when providing such services, it takes investment to build up knowledge and tools to organise it, be it computer systems, understanding of processes or even just having the right people working for you in the right places, all of this are tools of production.

      Investors and speculators in the financial markets are also capitalists, they provide services and their tools are mostly knowledge and people based.

    13. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Thanks for both of your very detailed answers. Definitely learned something on Slashdot today!

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    14. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Lumpy · · Score: 0

      Impressive! Most of the people here think that Nokia or Google invented this. I have seen people modded down that were talking about Prof Man and Prof Starner's work on Wearable computing and questioning the holy google and holy android.

      Glad to see someone that knows the real history about it. And yes, he is weird, all the professors that are doing pioneering work are exceptionally weird.

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    15. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by James+McGuigan · · Score: 1

      Second: the producers do not get the WRONG signals about consumption patterns, so it's possible to grow or slow down the production capacity. In an economy it's important to have all the CORRECT signals about prices. With the wrong signals the resources in the economy get mis-allocated.

      The main counterpoint to this, is that speculation and arbitrage also has an inherent price in that the speculator is taking a cut of the transaction. This is based upon the difference in prices as perceived by the buyer, seller and speculator. Over time, these differences may get fairly small but when multiplied by the size of the entire market, it still effectively acts as a tax on the entire market, rather than remaining in the collective hands of the normal buyers and sellers. (This assumes that the speculators are smart enough to actually make an overall profit and not otherwise active participants in it)

      Without this speculation, any large misallocation of price would eventually get corrected by normal competition, though maybe not to the same fine level of detail that speculation achieves. Does the value of this extra level of optimization in the price produce a greater overall efficiency than the resources lost through the speculator tax.

    16. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by dargaud · · Score: 1

      As for earbuds falling out, you can make your own custom earbuds. As for the pain after freezing skin: it comes back to normal if you use it regularly. It took me 6 months for the pain to go away each time I froze my toes. But for an ear, which you don't touch often, I don't know. You should try massaging it when your hands are not on the keyboard... C;-)

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    17. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      "speculator tax" is nonsense, as again, there are speculators on both sides of the transaction. When you buy spot for delivery, to you what is important is that you are not overpaying, not that there are a bunch of speculators betting against each other. OTOH those who sell for delivery want speculation to occur today as they want to bet on the futures market themselves to hedge, it is basically insurance, so they can smooth out possible price spikes or price falls, they want to know more precisely what their costs will be, what they will be able to make from their sales, this information is what allows them to not have bad surprises and not go bankrupt basically because of an unforeseen event, like a terrorist strike or a bad weather event or maybe a serious economic hit, and the market wants the producers to survive, not to be destroyed.

    18. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      For example Me it seems.

      Both of my posts were modded down for daring to not worship the holy google.

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    19. Re:Nokia was first with this idea by Crosshair84 · · Score: 1

      2. Speculators keep prices LOWER than they would otherwise be. The alternative is that there are no speculators and instead somebody buys the oil as a long term investment and holds it and eventually prices go higher and higher because of it. Speculators are on BOTH sides of every futures deal, so they bet that prices will go down as well as betting that prices will go up. Speculators create a much more efficient market, where prices are much closer to what the market really believes they should be.

      Just a real world example of this.

      Those same "speculators" that drive oil prices higher have driven natural gas prices to 10 year lows. Yet NG drillers continue to drill and explore new production and so many people are confused by this. The answer is slapping them in the face if they would look at the futures market.

      http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/NG.html

      The price for per MMBtu for delivery in August 2012 is $2.91. That is historically low. If you look ahead though, to the price per MMBtu for delivery in April 2016, the price of natural gas has doubled to $5.90.

      How does this benefit consumers? Businesses making decisions will be able to clearly see that the low NG prices will not last indefinitely and plan accordingly and not invest in low efficiency, but cheaper, equipment that uses NG. Even consumers like me can look at that and factor in those fuel costs into out heating bill. Makes it easy to see if the extra cost of that 95% efficiency furnace is worth it or not. This extra concern about increased fuel costs pushes the consumption of NG down.

      Producers are encouraged to continue producing new capacity because they are working on the assumption that the price of NG 3+ years from now will be close to $5 instead of $3. This extra supply pushes supply up and prices down.

      If not for "speculators" then these price increases would simply show up in the spot market and since they are immediate the price swings would be MUCH more severe.

      "Speculators" in a market economy are like a large capacitor in a DC power circuit. Any spikes or troughs in the voltage are smoothed out by the capacitor. The capacitor by itself cannot increase or decrease the voltage, but the voltage spike or trough shows up there first before it hits the powered equipment. Electronics, like markets, do not like sudden spikes.

      I'd love to see the people who think speculation needs to be done away with to get rid of all their UPSs and surge suppressors and see how well that works out.

  11. Here's hoping by Compaqt · · Score: 2

    they patent the heck out of it, share it with their Android partners, and kick Apple to the curb for violating the unstated rules of the tech patent game.

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    1. Re:Here's hoping by Swampash · · Score: 1

      they patent the heck out of it, share it with their Android partners

      You mean competitors, right?

    2. Re:Here's hoping by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      Cooptitioners.

      They're both competing and cooperating.

      They major reason for buying Motorola was for the patents; the reason for that being Apple's move.

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    3. Re:Here's hoping by cmdrbuzz · · Score: 1

      What are the unstated rules of the tech patent game? We can copy you, but if you try and stop us we will attempt to sue you with FRAND patents?

    4. Re:Here's hoping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple has a lot of money. They can pay for quality research too.

    5. Re:Here's hoping by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      The unstated rules were that the patents were merely defensive.

      You noticed the Motorola patents but not Apple trying to stop Google and Samsung sales?

      There was plenty of black, rounded corner, icon tech before Apple's iBlahs:
      Knight-Ridder Tablet
      Space Odyssey
      LG Prada
      Samsung picture frame
      Joojoo tablet
      Prizm software stack
      Bauhaus

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    6. Re:Here's hoping by gabriel · · Score: 1

      Are you sure it was (just) about Apple?

      Maybe it was because Motorola was talking about suing other Android manufacturers and collect royalties?
      http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/08/11/motorolas-sanjay-jha-openly-admits-they-plan-to-collect-ip-royalties-from-other-android-makers/

    7. Re:Here's hoping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL.

      Here's hoping you're just trolling and not actually stupid enough to believe that.

    8. Re:Here's hoping by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      That's from a year ago. Before Google bought Motorola.

      In fact, that's part of the reason Goog bought Motorola--so they could share the patent love.

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    9. Re:Here's hoping by cmdrbuzz · · Score: 1

      And the patents ARE being used defensively as in "We will defend ourselves using our patents from you copying our research and development efforts"

      And the vast majority of the patents are for things other than the physical look. For example the data detector patents are from old Mac OS and Newton tech, way before Google and Motorola even started work on Android. (Admittedly I think blocking import of a phone over a data detector patent is crazy, but thats the way its played out)

      To violate a "design patent" you need to hit ALL the things in the patent, not just "its black with rounded corners". But on the other hand, to violate a "utility patent" you just need to hit one of the clauses.
      So anytime you hear that Apple (or anyone really) sue someone over a design patent, then its usually because (they believe) of blatant whole-sale copying. Like your own lawyer not being able to tell the difference between Apple and Samsung's devices when the judge holds them both up.

      Not to mention that Motorola's patents were committed to various standard's agencies (including the ITU) as FRAND, now Google/Motorola and Samsung want to go back on that commitment because they have no other defense against Apple's non-FRAND patents. "Do no evil"... Right.

    10. Re:Here's hoping by Wovel · · Score: 1

      It is cute how naive you are. They are not going to share it with their Android partners,

    11. Re:Here's hoping by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Still sticking to the black-rounded-corner argument? I guess you don't get out much.

    12. Re:Here's hoping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...who will produce moe glitchy devices with out of date software on them. I can't wait!

    13. Re:Here's hoping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the patents ARE being used defensively as in "We will defend ourselves using our patents from you copying our research and development efforts"

      If that is defensive, what does a company have to do to use a patent offensively? Physically attack the CEO of another company using the printed out patent as a weapon?

    14. Re:Here's hoping by Xest · · Score: 1

      Google were already in talks with them at that point, it's most likely that that was a bargaining chip to push the price up.

      Google had obviously already made their decision as to why by then so this can't have been a factor in it. All it can have done is increase the urgency of purchase and/or price they were willing to pay which as I say, was almost certainly precisely the point.

    15. Re:Here's hoping by BenLeeImp · · Score: 1

      Chii?

    16. Re:Here's hoping by garbut · · Score: 1

      You know, "defensive", kind of like our national Department of "Defense"

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  12. Just more Google Garbage - another rehash by axonis · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Are google staff really so smart that the only things they can come up with are rehashed failed hacker ideas of the last 15 years ?, i guess this is a reflection of the staff they hire and the stupifying enviornment they boast about ... as always google is just a bunch of so called smarties trying to pull the wool over the eyes of another generation of newbies that havent seen this type of thing, i guess they hire staff based on how much they can beat their heads against a brick wall ! or how much they can recall cool slashdot stories from years ago ....

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    1. Re:Just more Google Garbage - another rehash by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      So what other tech companies are actually coming up with any great truly original ideas? I'd say probably none. I've been reading science fiction for a few decades and there is not one tech product on the market that wasn't described inat least one of the aforementioned tomes.I don't fault companies for this as coming up with really original yet practical stuff is Hard. Being the fashionable hipster cynic is obviously pretty easy though.

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    2. Re:Just more Google Garbage - another rehash by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Coming up with the idea is the easy part. Making it work is the hard part.

  13. Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by tftp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wearable computing will continue, since modern smartphones are pretty close to the desired ideal.

    However many proponents of wearable computing are explicitly associating it to wearing headsets, Borg-like heads-up displays, cameras, GPS, implanted compasses, and whatnot. These, IMO, will not be popular just because there is no need for them. Even the heads-up display is a distraction for most people. A cell phone form factor is with us since the days of ancient clay tablets. It is something that we are well equipped to operate - we can take it, give it, leave it, look at it, and work with it. I can imagine a communicator from ST:TNG as well. But even those communicators, as shown, are pretty limited. They had no video, for example - and many an away team would benefit from that. They would be better off with a modern smartphone, actually, as long as it can communicate with the orbit.

    At most I can imagine a heads-up display that is wirelessly linked to the smartphone in your pocket. That would have some use. Beyond that I don't see anything obvious; perhaps future developments give us other hardware that is worth wearing.

    Also in all these cases we must remember that the battery technology is still not good enough. Replacing batteries in all these wearable gizmos is a hassle - and a visible expense.

    1. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by fotoguzzi · · Score: 1

      1) Do you wear glasses? 2) Solar-panel beanie.

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    2. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by wild_quinine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At most I can imagine a heads-up display that is wirelessly linked to the smartphone in your pocket. That would have some use. Beyond that I don't see anything obvious; perhaps future developments give us other hardware that is worth wearing.

      Every year or two somebody comes up with something that "could replace the mouse". It never does. I'm not saying never will, but I don't see anything coming. Why? Because the mouse is pretty close to perfect. It allows for fine manipulation from the wrist and/or fingertips without fatigue - in fact the arm is almost at rest. Only the nipple, trackball, and touchpad have ever really come close, and I'd argue that most people consider them to be acceptable compromises.

      Kinaesthetic peripherals such as the Kinect, the Wiimote, the Move, Gyroscopic mice, heck, even the Gloves of Love from Minority Report - none of them are never going to become ubiquitious input devices like the mouse, because none of them are better than the mouse for general purpose input, in these really fundamental ways. If you want fine motor movement, you generally don't want to get the whole arm involved.

      All novel ways to interact with the world are up against similar issues. They can't all be directly compared to the mouse, but for genuinely novel ways of interacting with the world, consider these three questions: 'is it a hassle to use?', 'can you forget it is there?*', and eventually, 'do you look for it, when it is not there?'.

      A lot of wearable computing devices won't even pass the first test - you're right about the batteries being a likely issue. Keeping five or six items charged is going to be a pain. But also consider fatigue, fineness of control, etc.

      * under 'can you forget it is there?', consider also 'are you always looking for the thing you know exists, which would be simpler to use'... such as a mouse, or sometimes a keyboard. :)

    3. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the mouse is pretty close to perfect. It allows for fine manipulation from the wrist and/or fingertips without fatigue - in fact the arm is almost at rest.

      It is perfect if you have an arm. Apple's trackpad replaced mouse for me four years ago and I will never go back. Actually using mice makes me feel like going to a previous imperfect past. But then, an artist friend of mine says the trackpad is ok for normal use but fails short of precision for graphic editing. Nothing is perfect, claiming a single device is the best is a fine way of narrowing your own mind.

      Or do you have a single pair of shoes you wear to the beach, to the mountain, to work, to a wedding, etc? Please free yourself from the shackles you are imposing yourself and think out of the box.

    4. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oddly, I wear a dead heads up display panel all day long every day, they are called GLASSES. it's just the projector display section is defective, but the image enhancement section still works.

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    5. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only the nipple, trackball, and touchpad have ever really come close

      I'd like to try out the nipple as input device, but all the women I asked denied me access to it. :-)

    6. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Glass isn't designed to replace anything. It gives you a new heads up display and an always on camera.

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    7. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Lysol · · Score: 1

      Yah, I totally agree. I think this will be a mostly Google thing and maybe extreme nerds. Sorta like how the Segway was gonna take over the world and it never did. I already wear glasses and I don't necessarily want some thick rimmed things with a hud messing w/any of my vision. My goal with wearing 'real' glasses is to have the frames as lightweight as possible and as little metal as possible - glass only almost. And, unfortunately, I have 2 prescriptions - 1 for close, 1 for distance. So I'd have to have 2 pair of Google glasses (I'm sure they'd love that)? Now if I could get a pair that could adjust the light based on what I'm focusing on, then *that* would be cool.

      I just can't see 'everyone' wearing these in 5 years. I think it's gonna be another Google project (like wave) that was so 'revolutionary' and then just quietly went away. It's not there yet and too nerdy for the mass population.

    8. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Or do you have a single pair of shoes you wear to the beach, to the mountain, to work, to a wedding, etc?

      Why yes, they are called Tevas. Why yes, I am from California, why do you ask?

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    9. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by rdnetto · · Score: 1

      No one expects wearable computing to replace desktops. No one expects tablets or smartphones to replace them either, but that hasn't stopped them from becoming popular.

      Wearable computing, like smartphones/tablets, is about providing seamless access to technology when you're away from the computer. It seeks to supplant the smartphone, not the desktop.

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    10. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Snaller · · Score: 1

      "Why? Because the mouse is pretty close to perfect. It allows for fine manipulation from the wrist and/or fingertips without fatigue - in fact the arm is almost at rest."

      Yet hundreds of thousands of people get injuries from using the mouse.

      As for you refusing to accept other and future input devices is not insightful, thats just you being old enough to be a Luddite stuck in your ways.

      Lets hope you can live with the future others design for you.

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    11. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Augmented reality has never been implemented successfully on large scale which is reason enough not to judge it based on what you imagine it is going to be like. As far as HUD being connected to a main device, I do not see it happening any other way for a while. Solution to a battery problem can be resolved by hard line. I am sure you have seen people wearing a string, generally to make sure they do not loose glasses and to have an easy access to them. Well besides added feature of not loosing your $300 HUD for a handheld device, that string can provide a video, audio and power line reducing amount of very compact electronics that you would need to pack into glasses. This would allow to maintain aesthetic appeal by making you resemble a Borg. Interesting thing to know would be which device would actually consume more power. HUD or your normal handheld device screen. Either way, main point is, do not kill the messenger. You have no idea what this technology might do for us.

    12. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Exrio · · Score: 1

      1. All the injuries with the mouse happen because of improper, unbalanced desk setup - as do all the injuries resulting from "computer usage". 2. Even now, the people with mouse-related injuries are few enough that I personally have never seen any. With the "wave your hands in the air" alternatives (including touchscreen) I'm sure the injuries would actually be many, MANY more.

    13. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by tftp · · Score: 1

      You have no idea what this technology might do for us.

      Yes, of course. My expectations are only of the near future, and I am leaving possibilities open if someone comes up with, say, an implant for operation of computers by a thought.

      I am sure you have seen people wearing a string

      I am not a fan of *that* kind of behavior :-)

      But sure you can have all your gizmos wired. You will be tired of plugging them in and out of that "body LAN" every time you put your hat on or remove it, every time you take the coat or jacket off, every time you stop by the restroom. If a technology is more annoying than it is useful it will not become popular. Cell phones got popular when they became small enough so that carrying a phone did not require careful planning of logistics weeks ahead of the trip.

      Augmented reality has never been implemented successfully on large scale which is reason enough not to judge it based on what you imagine it is going to be like.

      Perhaps. But it is an excellent reason to be skeptical about its future until we have at least *some indications* that it is going anywhere. As I said, the worst problem of augmented reality is that it is not necessary in most cases. As an example, would you want to read your email while driving a car - or while just walking down the street? You can do it today; the wearable hardware exists for at least a decade. But the exercise is pointless. That's why I don't see a bright future of this technology in the near term. That might change once you get implants - but then there would be no need to wear anything outside of your body. Arguing for wearable computing today is analogous to walking on stilts. You can do it right now, but there is no benefit in doing so.

      This would allow to maintain aesthetic appeal by making you resemble a Borg.

      I probably should not offer a comment on that statement :-)

      Interesting thing to know would be which device would actually consume more power. HUD or your normal handheld device screen.

      I would expect the HUD to be far more efficient. However there is a price to pay. I actually tested some HUDs, and while they were nice, presenting you with a view of a large computer screen, they are very expensive. You also need a HUD that has the alpha channel, and must be perfectly transparent where required. Otherwise you cannot see the other reality through it. I have a setup here that uses a camera and an opaque screen, but that is not practical in glasses - if your computer crashes you lose the visual input. Anyway, HUDs are used in a few areas, and they are practical there. Everywhere else people do not need them. If a geek or two is enamored with the idea, let them play with it. Perhaps they will stumble upon something useful.

    14. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by LS · · Score: 1

      what about a low profile heads up display that overlays something in the form factor of a tablet over ANY object in your view and allows you to interact with it the same as a tablet, using a kinect-style input device? Wearable computing could be considered a super-set of the tablet form factor, not mutually exclusive. You are still thinking in terms of usability and comfort issues of wearable computing, but when it becomes invisible and transparent, i.e. you don't even realize you are wearing it, and the usability of a floating virtual device is as easy as a physical device, then your opinion might change.

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    15. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by tftp · · Score: 2

      As I vaguely made it known, I worked (not too far back) in the area of mobile industrial computing. UPS and FedEx are just a small part of the crowd that runs around with tablets, barcode scanners, RFID readers, and transmits all that over the radio direct into the mainframe.

      Very few of those guys would want anything that is more sophisticated than a rugged UPS tablet. Why? Because it is rugged. You'd be amazed to learn what requirements - real, necessary requirements - shipping companies specify for these gadgets. They have to survive drop on concrete from the top of the truck. They have to be waterproof. They have to work at temperatures that burn your hands (happens in parked trucks.) There are tons of other requirements.

      It does not help when you make the gadget even more complicated. Heads-up display... OK, but where does the customer sign? Oh, I need to punch this number in manually because the label is torn. Ah, I need to show some data to the customer. Eh, where is the barcode scanner in this thing? And so on.

      What you propose is a viable system for a very specific purpose. I saw requirements for such systems (of course I cannot say where they came from.) But those are unique requirements; there are maybe less than 1,000 specialists on the whole planet that need such a unique setup to do their job better. Kinect is all nice and good until you have to use it in pitch dark, or under water, or in fog, or in a forest in wind, or crammed head first into an access hatch. You know, most people do not use these mobile gizmos when they are comfortably at home in their armchairs. One could easily hang from a rope while operating the wearable computer. In such cases the whole system is built around what fingers and what eyes and what else can the guy allocate to computing. Usually it isn't much. A firefighter, for example, will certainly benefit from a wearable computer that analyzes the situation all around him independently from fireman's own brain. But think of what level of ruggedness such a system will require!

      Nevertheless, if you read SciFi then you certainly see such ideas like yours proposed here and there. They seem natural today. But technology develops nonlinearly. We periodically invent disruptive technology that changes everything overnight. It is likely that there will be disruptive developments in the field of wearable computing. The HUD, once you try it, is really a cumbersome device that is a bother to wear. It is also capable of hurting your vision if it is not perfectly fitting your particular eyesight. It certainly is capable of hurting your stereo vision - and that is bad because this processing is done in the brain, and the brain tends to learn new tricks. It has no switch for "Mode A" and "Mode B."

      I don't want to say "no" to your proposal. It would be too easy. I would instead urge you to build such a system. Get yourself some Kopin HUD and play with it. Maybe you can take apart an old digital camera. Cut and polish your own prisms and mirrors. Build what you want, and show it to people. You may find more interest in the industry than you know what to do with. Or perhaps you get no interest. But that's the only way to find out. Just talking about it is not sufficient.

    16. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by LS · · Score: 1

      You miss my point entirely. I'm not claiming these issues will be solved within 10 or even 20 years. I'm speaking theoretically. 50 years ago, someone would have said the same thing you are saying about handheld tablet devices. Sometime in the future, it will be clear that there will be shared UI that will be visible and interactive for everyone within range, without any obvious equipment usage. And over time it will be made reliable under severe conditions. The military already uses this type of equipment in all kinds of conditions. The point is that there isn't something fundamentally flawed with these types of devices. They are just far too immature.

      On a side not, Kinect was just an example, and you shouldn't get hung up on the current incarnation of the tech. It's like looking at the first mouse and claiming that shit will never work. Firstly, it uses infrared, so the dark wouldn't affect its ability to function. Its descendants in the future would not be limited by any of the factors you describe, and the ideal would be real-time high-fidelity detection and location of all objects within a bounded 3d box.

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    17. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found the 3D mouse to be better than a standard mouse. But the mouse itself was an evolution of its own, some baring over 16 buttons with an ergonomic design. Remember how the old mouse were like? It was just a ball at the top right corner of a keyboard. It was painful to use and annoying. Incidentally I still use a 2D mouse, only because 3D can get tiring and very few things natively support it. As for Google glass, it makes sense to say that everyone will be wearing something like it, because augmented reality WILL be our fourth and fifth dimension. We'll be able to see through the world like we couldn't before, effectively nearly doubling the size of the world, but in many ways shrinking it. Google's little toy will likely be $500 once available for the consumer market, and will probably be cheaper if you buy it with a phone somewhere.

    18. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by able1234au · · Score: 1

      "Solar-panel beanie"

      way to be cool..... :)

    19. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mouse WILL be replaced by a kinaesthetic peripheral ... when displays become holographic and 3D rather than 2D.

      Which is a long ways away ...

    20. Re:Don't forget about the end purpose of all that by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      4 business men were out playing golf, a Brit, an American, a German & a Japanese.

      While teeing up for a shot the Brit pauses and apologises, "Sorry, I have to take this." He raises his cuff to his ear and speaks into his lapel, conducting business. He explains afterwards that he has this new tech that allows him to have a wearable phone.

      A short while later the american is about to take a shot and he too pauses, holds his thumb to his ear and little finger to mouth and also conducts business, explaining afterwards that he has a mic implanted in his thumb and speaker in little finger.

      Again, a while later it's the German's turn, he stops and appears to be talking to the air. He tells them he has a microphone implanted in a tooth and speaker in his ear canal.

      They are almost finish their round of golf when they hear a squeak of surprise out of the Japanese and he rushes off to the bushes unbuckling his trousers. He calls over his shoulder, "Fax Coming!"

  14. I'm looking ahead to... by Lisias · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... see the implications on the professional life.

    I want to see a manager blatantly lying to me when wearing one of those. :-)

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    1. Re:I'm looking ahead to... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      "Sorry, we don't allow those devices at the work place."

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    2. Re:I'm looking ahead to... by Lisias · · Score: 1

      "Device? What device?" :-)

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    3. Re:I'm looking ahead to... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Your clothes. Since all clothes are now devices, you are no longer allowed to wear them at the workplace. :-)

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  15. Agree and Disagree by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's my expectation that in three to five years...

    I agree with their view and disagree with it. I agree that wearable computers are the future but I disagree with their timeline - I believe "three to five years" is an enormously, overly aggressive timeframe.

    First of all, project Glass is coming to market next year at a price of $1400 (iirc) and is only available for developers (currently - which I would imagine means the price is as low as possible to help get developers involved rather than to generate profits). This is already one year of their three-to-five timeframe eaten up. While I realize that price will come down as the tech gets better and once it's made available to the general public economies of scale will also help drive the price down, I believe there's still far too big a difference between "price the tech has to be sold at to make it a viable business" and "price most consumers are willing to pay". So, first of all, I believe the price is a significant barrier and it will take longer than three to five years to get the price into a realm where the average consumer feels comfortable paying for the tech.

    Second, and more importantly, people have zero experience with the interface. Smartphones were set to explode because people a) understood phones and b) understood computers so the marriage of the two as a technology as easy to understand and required minimal learning to use. It was easy for the mass market to pick up and go. For something like project Glass, I cannot see the average person easily figuring out how to use it. Now, understand, this is absolutely independent of how easy it actually is to use - it might be the easiest, most intuitive thing in the world to use but people won't feel that it's easy to use because they've never used anything like it which will serve as a barrier to adoption. People intuitively knew how to use a phone and knew how to use a computer so selling them a phone that was a computer was easy. Selling them a set of glasses that is also a computer will not be an easy sell. Thus, there needs to be a significant amount of effort spent making that usage scenario _feel_ easy and intuitive to the average consumer before they will actually pick up the device and that will only happen over time. It will happen, eventually, but it will take time.

    All in all, I agree that wearable computer devices will become the norm but I think that "three to five years" is an enormously optimistic timeframe. There will be early adopters and the like but it will take at least a decade, probably a bit longer, before it solidly penetrates the mass market and becomes "normal".

    1. Re:Agree and Disagree by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Your information is way out of date.

      $1400 now for developers. $799 next year. they already released that next year they will be available for nearly have the price they released them at IO for.

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    2. Re:Agree and Disagree by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      $1400 now for developers. $799 next year. they already released that next year they will be available for nearly have the price they released them at IO for.

      Until your average schmoe can go in and get them for free or at least deeply subsidized from their phone provider, they're not going to take over for anything. It's going to have to come down to about $400 for that at best.

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    3. Re:Agree and Disagree by Snaller · · Score: 1

      It's not "coming to market" - a TINY group of developers (Americans who were present at the IO when the offer was made) were allowed to pay for a prototype (1500$) - and the price was high to try and discourage riff raff.

      Brin hopes to bring it to market in 2014. The final retail price will be much different.

      As for getting people to understand it, they are focusing on just a camera to record precious moments from your life, because people understand cameras and many grouse over not getting a shot of their kid doing something cute.
      Then once people have bought it for the camera they'll start discovering other abilities.

      But I agree 3-5 is Google employees on mushrooms again (instead of fixing some of the damn bugs in gmail and other services)

      Its more likely to be 15-20 years.
      It depends on how much money Google will care to throw at it. The less they spend the longer it will take.

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    4. Re:Agree and Disagree by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      The first iPad was only 2 years ago. True, it wasn't $1400, but it also wasn't wearable. If this is out initially within the year, then in 3 years it is quite possible that anyone who wants one will have one.

  16. Advertising will kill it by petes_PoV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We know that any piece of personal technology that CAN support advertising WILL be used for that purpose - whether we want it to, or not. Imagine how intrusive it would be to be using the Google Glass technology to look at something and suddenly an ad. pops up trying to sell us something that looks like what we're looking at.

    What's even worse will be the privacy issues. Not only will advertisers be able to track the users as they can now, with 3G, Wifi and BT triangulation, but they'll be able to infiltrate our state of mind by interpreting what or who we're looking at.

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    1. Re:Advertising will kill it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Advertising is the least of your worries!
      http://plif.courageunfettered.com/archive/wc161.gif The Parking Lot is Full for all you old timers.

    2. Re:Advertising will kill it by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Not on any device I own. I have advertising blocked on everything. Heck I dont even watch LIVE TV. It's all recorded via MythTV and commercials stripped. I listen to podcasts and Sirius radio in the car, no ad's on my phones or PC.

      If you just sit there and let them have control, they will blast ad's at you. Dont let them.

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    3. Re:Advertising will kill it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the real deal breaker. The chance we'll be able to be in control of our own wearable devices is roughly 0%.

      Like the parent says, they will be used to track us, send logs of what we look at to Google, and so on.

    4. Re:Advertising will kill it by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Google don't do pop up ads.

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    5. Re:Advertising will kill it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not sure how you imagine this happening but I suspect provider locked phones are somehow involved. I recommend that if you have no access to every aspect of OS, do not buy it. There, your advertisement problem solved.

  17. Because I really need more tracking by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was just thinking to myself the other day, you know Google doesn't have QUITE enough information about me in their databases, wouldn't it be wonderful if they could track my every motion and everything I see too? Then my life would be complete.

    1. Re:Because I really need more tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no, your life will be complete when you see the new ads coming at you 24/7.

  18. "we've ... seen the power of being hands-free..." by Cornwallis · · Score: 2

    Funny, I see it as being handcuffed.

    And I'm sure the gubmint will joyfully go along with that.

  19. Well according to Bill Gates by arcite · · Score: 2

    We were all supposed to be using Tablet and stylus computing by now, that didn't quite work out now did it....

    1. Re:Well according to Bill Gates by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Mostly because the tablet makers were retarded and did not allow me to make phone calls from the tablet.

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    2. Re:Well according to Bill Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We were all supposed to be using Tablet and stylus computing by now,

      You are aware that tablet sales are projected to outsell traditional PCs by the third quarter of 2013, right?

      Tablet sales are increasing by around 100% year over year, and traditional PCs, -8%. If this continues for another year and a half, which is not an unreasonable assumption, tablet PCs will dominate the market in late 2013.

  20. Just needs better input tech, like this... by wisebabo · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you haven't seen the Leap motion (and no I'm not in any way shape or form connected to the company, although I wish I were!) you should check it out.

    It's a super-accurate (I think sub-millimeter), low latency 3D tracker with the ability to follow up to 10 fingers (or other objects like pencils) at once. All in a very small box (USB powered?) box that's expected to sell for $70 (this year). I don't know the volume in which it can track the objects but on the demos it appears to be pretty large, large enough that a belt mounted (or necklace version) would be sufficient.

    Voice recognition is good and getting better but there are many time when a point and click(?) interface is still much more efficient. Like when you want to access one link out of many on a web page. Or control a complex virtual device that has many degrees of freedom. Humans have evolved to have hands of extraordinary flexibility and control; just look at the amount of our brain dedicated to them. So let's use them! (The reasons why this Leap device is so good as opposed to say "finger detection" using the Google glasses video-camera is because the resolution is much higher, it tracks in 3D and there might not be a problem with occlusion.)

    Of course the Google glasses should be updated to have a stereo display (I think currently it's only in the right eye). That would allow truly interacting with items in 3D. (Of course, the above comments about people gesticulating in space would come to pass! I'm wondering if "I'm sorry your honor but I didn't mean to touch the young lady like that, I was turning the knobs on my virtual stereo receiver" would be a valid defense.)

    This is the way that Google should be fighting Apple. Not by making incremental changes to Apple's tech (or so it appears to most people* and, apparently some judges) but by revolutionizing the field. If they're right, then in three to five years Apple may only control the remains of a vast but dying industry. Sounds like Microsoft before or IBM before it.

    *look, prior to the iPhone, smartphones looked one way and then suddenly they (the successful ones that is) completely changed their basic appearance and interface (touchscreens using fingers not stylii, icons, slide to access, pinch zoom). Coincidence? Coming from companies with decades of experience in making hundreds of cellphone models? That's how most lay-persons (and at least some legal experts) might view it.

    1. Re:Just needs better input tech, like this... by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      You can "view" it however you want but there is very little about the iPhone that is truly original. Did apple make the first phone? No. Did they make the first touchscreen in a phone firm factor? No. Did they invent multi touch? No. Did they invent the first appstore? No. Basically they didn't actually invent shit so what gives them the sole right to take other peoples inventions and monopolize their implementation? Because they do a good job? What if we extend that logic to other industries? Only BMW can make cars. Only estwing can make hammers. Only may tag can make washing machines. I mean fuck the saps that actuallycame up with that stuff right? BBecause apparently only the manufacturers that are stuck in the consumer mindset should be able to actually market their products. I'll bet dollars to donuts you don't have anything to do with non iPhone smartphone production. If you did you'd sing a different tune.

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    2. Re:Just needs better input tech, like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bitter much?

    3. Re:Just needs better input tech, like this... by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Not at all. Having an enjoyable Sunday morning drinking my coffee and shooting the shit on Slashdot. Project much?

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    4. Re:Just needs better input tech, like this... by able1234au · · Score: 1

      Really? i guess every dish cooked uses the same available ingredients so by that definition there are no new recipes.

      I am sure you can argue that the iphone built on existing technologies, but almost every tech does. But to say it did not revolutionise the market when it came out is surely stretching the argument. Phones before the iphone were very different to phones afterwards. it completely changed the game.

    5. Re:Just needs better input tech, like this... by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      I didn't say anything about revolutionizing the market or not. Nice attempt at a straw man though.

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  21. Re:Won't be popular until Apple does it. by geekmux · · Score: 1

    Everyone else will do something stupid with the tech, preventing critical mass adoption. Apple will come along and do it right, and the geeks will be outraged.

    When wanting to impress this Kardashian society we live in, one must look well beyond the technical capability and instead focus on how it looks and slapping a high-enough price tag on it (at least 2x over other like hardware) in order to even be accepted as a possible option.

    And when tech clearly needs to blend with fashion in order to get past the "critical mass adoption" phase, any respectable geek should know damn well one goes to Apple to accomplish this, for there really is no one else so deeply rooted in the business of tech blending with fashion. That should be painfully obvious when you walk into an Apple store and compare specs vs. price tags.

    Only one other type of product can get away with charging 2 - 3x more than anyone else...a fashionable one.

  22. Unusual and awkward by simplypeachy · · Score: 1

    It's my expectation that in 2012 it will actually look unusual and awkward when someone makes idiotic statements.

    1. Re:Unusual and awkward by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Actually, making idiotic statements looks more and more common. If something will look unusual, it is someone making an intelligent statement.

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    2. Re:Unusual and awkward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent +1 Unusual.

  23. Not until it's invisible... by anyaristow · · Score: 1

    ...so it won't be at all unusual to not see people wearing these.

    Ever seen a woman wearing an in-ear phone?
    Ever seen a man wearing an in-ear phone and not thought it looked silly? Or that he likes his technology a wee bit too much?

    1. Re:Not until it's invisible... by John+Hasler · · Score: 2

      > Ever seen a man wearing an in-ear phone and not thought
      > it looked silly?

      No one wearing an Apple product ever looks silly. When iGlasses hit the market they will be incredibly cool. Google will rush to imitate them.

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    2. Re:Not until it's invisible... by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      I always assumed that someone with an in-ear phone liked *themselves* a little too much, probably because they tended to be worn mainly by sales people. I thought we'd actually invented a way of tagging douche-bags.

  24. Wearable Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only way I am going to carry a 'Wearable Computer' is if I can hang it from a ring in my nose.

  25. Wonder if they've ever head of Marshall Brain? by way2trivial · · Score: 2

    http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
    "At any given moment Manna had a list of things that it needed to do. There were orders coming in from the cash registers, so Manna directed employees to prepare those meals. There were also toilets to be scrubbed on a regular basis, floors to mop, tables to wipe, sidewalks to sweep, buns to defrost, inventory to rotate, windows to wash and so on. Manna kept track of the hundreds of tasks that needed to get done, and assigned each task to an employee one at a time.

    Manna told employees what to do simply by talking to them. Employees each put on a headset when they punched in. Manna had a voice synthesizer, and with its synthesized voice Manna told everyone exactly what to do through their headsets. Constantly. Manna micro-managed minimum wage employees to create perfect performance."

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    1. Re:Wonder if they've ever head of Marshall Brain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read that whole essay a couple of weeks ago, after a comment referenced it, and I was thinking that even though he was pointing this out as a warning, somewhere, some executive MBA type was going to read this and think it was a brilliant fucking idea and need to make something like it.

      Since full humanoid robots are not ready to take over, computer controlled humans are the next best thing, as an interim step to full robotics. The scary thing is the Terraform "housing" of the unemployed. It was so much more efficient than current welfare.

    2. Re:Wonder if they've ever head of Marshall Brain? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I like how that is put forward as a kind of Sci-Fi scenario, and not what's going on in cell centres around the world already.

  26. Liability Issues - Watching Porn While Driving!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A minefield of liability issues: Texting while driving is a proven distraction and legal liability, talking on a phone while driving is also a proven distraction, illegal and very dangerous (have almost been run over twice by yahoos with phones to their heads not noticing red lights, stop signs, pedestrians, etc.).

    Would I be allowed to watch porn on the HUD (Heads Up Display) in my car while driving through long boring stretches of Nebraska/Saskatchewan? Can I video conference call through my Google Glasses while stuck in traffic?

    Who will supply the OS for these "Smart Glasses"? MS, Apple, Google? How long till the first literal 'BLOD' (Black Lenses of Death)?
    Windows crashes regularly enough and requires weekly updates, Flash in Chrome (in Ubuntu Linux) crashes daily, sometimes hourly.

    Not optimistic based on the track record so far.

  27. Re:Won't be popular until Apple does it. by AngryDeuce · · Score: 1
  28. Define computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing is, these wearable devices will much like be google goggles in which the tasks that can be done limited (which makes input much easier to deal with) rather then generic (which requires a much finer and more varied input). These devices are not generic computers, but more specialized computers. Wearable may become the norm but it also won't replace the current form of computing.

  29. Re:Liability Issues - Watching Porn While Driving! by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 1

    You can easily design an LCD that fails and turns clear - in fact a modern LCD works exactly like this. They go dark when they lose power because the backlight turns off - but if it stayed on, they'd turn white from constant illumination. On a transparent screen, it would turn clear.

    More likely, when driving - or just normally using them - you'd configure a hardware lockout for maximum opacity in advance. Or a clear channel - just turn off the power to the relevant pixels in the middle of the vision field.

  30. Re:Liability Issues - Watching Porn While Driving! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not talking about failing, I'm talking about the OS locking up with a distracting image on screen. When Flash fails these days in Ubuntu 12.4 I get a 1080p screen-full of random color pixels. Windows will either freeze/lock up, go BSOD, drop to the desktop, or just randomly reset the computer.

    All of my computers (Laptops and desktop) are fine if you run local programs, but run Chrome, Firefox, or IE (yuck) and they go bananas on different web pages (Slashdot especially yesterday).

    Hardware failure is the best, safest option.

  31. Good for Google by bennyp · · Score: 1

    it's not like someone else invented this decades ago and has been working on it ever since... oh wait. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Mann

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  32. Awkward? by PPH · · Score: 1

    it will actually look unusual and awkward when we view someone holding an object in their hand and looking down at it.

    You insensitive clod! I take pictures with a TLR Rolleiflex!

    That camera has actually started quite a few interesting conversations when people see me using it.

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  33. Prior Art? by PPH · · Score: 1

    This technology has been around for a decade or more. Perhaps not as compact and high resolution, but something like a pair of those wrap-around sunglasses old geezers wear.

    There could be some uses for this. We did some R&D on superimposing assembly and test instructions on a technician's field of view. But one conclusion was that this was so distracting for tasks other than those performed sitting down that it could be hazardous or induce equilibrium or vertigo problems. On the shop floor, it is relatively easy to enforce safety rules on the use of such equipment. But out on the street, I see pedestrians walking into moving traffic while watching cat videos.

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  34. Slashdot always deletes my messages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot always deletes my messages, so I am posting this one to just watch it disappear.

  35. Slashdot always deletes my messages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot always deletes my messages, so I am posting this one just to watch it disappear.

  36. I already wear eyeglasses ... by twms2h · · Score: 1

    ... so will there be "Glass" in the strength I need for my eyes? (I am still looking for sun glasses that are worth that name, preferably mirror sunglasses, in the strength I need. All they try to sell me are slightly darkened glasses and these are not even worth considering.)

  37. The Google Anal Probe by Animats · · Score: 1

    " It's my expectation that in three to five years it will actually look unusual and awkward when we view someone holding an object in their hand and looking down at it. Wearable computing will become the norm."

    So Google really is coming out with an anal probe.

  38. Prescription Eyeglasses by VoidEngineer · · Score: 1

    A pair of prescription eyeglasses with designer frames can easily cost upwards of $1000 dollars or more. Project Glass is going disrupt the current eyeglass industry, as a whole new augmented eyeglasses market is going to open up. It's going to be very interesting times for LensCrafters, Cohen Fashion Optical, Pearle Vision... (and I'd be selling their stock right now if I owned any). Will they go the way of the recording industry and resist the change? Or will they be more like Barnes and Noble and try to adapt with a not-quite-successful proprietary solution? Will Google acquire LensCrafters and will we be able to buy a pair of Ray-Bans running Android? Will Pearle Vision try to avoid a buy-out by building their own Ubuntu powered glasses (sans dedicated hardware like accelerometers and microphones) and wind up being the eyeglass version of the Nook (versus the iPad)?

  39. OUTRAGE!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are already outraged! Someone mentions Apple in a positive way, and we Slashdot nerds SCREAM with self-entitled fury! MOD PARENT DOWN!!!!!!!

  40. Google's Steve Lee and Babak Parviz also said that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google were particularly looking forward to being about to hack^h^h^h^h tap into peoples wearable computing solutions in order to offer new value added services to marketing firms ^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h them,

  41. Implants Will Be the Norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Implants Will Be the Norm

    Regarding:

    Google 'Project Glass'
    - http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/07/01/0553247/wearable-computing-will-be-the-norm-says-google-glass-team

    This technology reminds me of the ST:TNG episode, "The Game":

    - http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Game_(episode)

    "Wesley Crusher visits the Enterprise only to see everyone behaving strangely on account of an addictive, mind-controlling game."

    IMO this is part of the march, or 'slow boiling frog' dance towards The Mark Of The Beast. Gradually, 'THEY' (see George Carlin's videos on YouTube about 'our owners' and 'education') will lead us to a mandatory chip implant and a a possible global hive mind.

    It shouldn't surprise anyone:

    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
    - Google: The Mind Has No Firewall (military article)
    - http://mindjustice.org/
    - thehiddenevil.com
    - Wikipedia: Look up the various 'PROJECTS' other than MKULTRA, there are many, like Project Paperclip.

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  42. Stop riding Gate's jock. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ubiquitous [yoo-bik-wi-tuhs] adjective existing or being everywhere, especially at the same time; omnipresent: ubiquitous fog; ubiquitous little ants.

  43. Old news by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    Project teams predicts their product will be the norm in the future.

  44. Disco Stu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you know that disco record sales were up 400% for the year ending 1976? If these trends continue...

  45. No Eyetap Still? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, I would have expected Google to have done proper Eyetap aremac display work, especially now that micro mirror LED displays are feasible at that size. Fuck AR, I want MR.

  46. Re:Won't be popular until Apple does it. by able1234au · · Score: 1

    "Only one other type of product can get away with charging 2 - 3x more than anyone else...a fashionable one."

    Or one that adds 2 - 3x the value. The iPad just works and is ahead of the competition. That is why it commands a higher price. That is why a BMW costs more than a Daihatsu.

  47. But of course. by Dragoniel · · Score: 1

    It doesn't take genius to predict something like that. Even before the advent of mobile phones as a kid I was rather certain that in the future everybody will have a personal computer, which we will wear as a watch. Nowadays I believe it will be more like glasses. A perfect platform for camera, sound input and convenient interface. I would not be surprised that we would see computers like that receiving instructions directly from thought in less than 20 years. Proof of concept already exists, after all. Glasses, capable of receiving instructions by merely thinking about it, displaying interactive online information about the world around us (think about pulling wikipedia data about any mundane object you are currently looking at), projecting video directly in to our eye (think wathching uber-HD video streamed from a cloud service or a portable device through radio protocol anywhere anytime). Perhaps even capable of running programs streamed from a future supermachines via internet as well (programs such as gaming, virtual reality overlay or interfaces of connected machines such as car computer or testing software and robot interface for an engineer). I hope I will live to see it.

  48. About time, needs a chording keypad by ashelton · · Score: 1

    Been waiting for this for years. It was pretty obvious to me that the problem has always been the display. They can only get so large before they become unwieldy, heavy, fragile, power hungry and difficult to use away from a desk. With something like this you can have a big screen in a very small form factor and the phone can go back to being something easier to carry, though I'm still fine with it doing the computing. Add in a wireless chording keypad for power-user input and you've got a great platform for mobile computing. It's not really anything novel, the pieces have been around for years, but it needed someone to put them together, do the software layer and mass produce them to bring the price down.

    It will still be niche, the vast majority don't even need all the computing power their phones contain, and it does look sort of silly... but the idea of being able to boot up linux (you know it will happen) on my sun-glasses is a sort of sublime perfection.

  49. Yeah but Glass isn't it (yet) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Google is right but this first generation of Glass won't be the technological boon that Google seems to think its destined to be. I see this first geneartion as what early Palm Pilot like devices were to the iPhone, moving in the right direction, and a necessary first step, but too clunky and too lacking in real world functionality to be useful yet. Luckily new tech obsolesces faster than ever these days so hopefully it'll only be 2 or 3 years before they launch a product that has real functional value.

  50. Finally, by ddd0004 · · Score: 1

    The NBA star trend of wearing fake glasses will have an actual purpose.