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Cat Parasite May Increase Risk of Suicide In Humans

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers at the University of Maryland analyzing meticulous data collected by Danish authorities have identified a positive correlation between suicides among women with infection with the fairly common parasite T. gondii. Carriers were 53 percent more likely to commit suicide in a sample of 45,000 Danish women monitored for over a decade (researchers believe that the same correlation likely exists for men). Increased susceptibility to schizophrenia and bipolar disorder was also discovered. The physiological mechanism has not been determined, although some speculation centers around changes to dopamine levels. Two intriguing aspects were noted: 1) human infection often (but not always) begins by exposure to cats carrying the parasite, for example, by changing an infected animal's litter; and 2) the parasite spreads itself by infecting the nervous system of rodents, causing them to become suicidally attracted to feline odors which will increase the likelihood of their hosts being eaten by cats, whose digestive tracts provide the preferred environment for parasite reproduction."

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  1. So cats contract it by eating rodents... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but it's still okay to eat cats, right? I mean, as long as you avoid the digestive organs?

    1. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Make sure they're cooked to at least 160 F and you'll be fine.

    2. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...but it's still okay to eat cats, right?

      The article is about human infections, so you might want to avoid eating humans. If you get infected, it will lower the dopamine level in your brain, and then you will get hungry for . . . another human brain . . .

      . . . I think I just figured out how the Zombie Apocalypse thing will start . . .

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    3. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think I just figured out how the Zombie Apocalypse thing will start . . .

      will?

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    4. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Alf, is that you?

    5. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by netik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wash your hands.

      If you are a cat owner, and you can't handle the simple fact that you are dealing with feces and vomit every day without a proper hygiene protocol, something has already gone wrong.

    6. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...but it's still okay to eat cats, right?

      I have actually eaten cat. Many years ago, I was in the red light district of Panama City (Fourth of July Street) with some fellow jarheads, and some guy had a "monkey" roasting on a spit. So we each bought a slice. We were eating as we walked along, and I noticed a young woman laughing at us. I asked her what was so funny.
      She smiled asked "Do you know what you are eating?"
      "Monkey meat."
      "Nope. It's an alley cat."
      Anyway, it tasted like chicken.

    7. Re:So cats contract it by eating rodents... by tehcyder · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wash your hands.

      If you are a cat owner, and you can't handle the simple fact that you are dealing with feces and vomit every day without a proper hygiene protocol, something has already gone wrong.

      I've got cats and I don't handle their feces every day. I let my neighbourds do that when the cats go and crap in their rosebeds.

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  2. The chicken and egg problem all over again by pyzondar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do the crazy cat ladies have cats because they are crazy, or are they crazy because they have cats?

    1. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Either way this explains Caturday.

    2. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Do the crazy cat ladies have cats because they are crazy, or are they crazy because they have cats?

      The parasite also causes decreased sexual inhibition. Translation: It makes women sluttier. No corresponding effect was found in men. Of course, this effect isn't as widely documented for obvious political reasons...

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    3. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by sackbut · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do the crazy cat ladies have cats because they are crazy, or are they crazy because they have cats?

      The parasite also causes decreased sexual inhibition. Translation: It makes women sluttier. No corresponding effect was found in men. Of course, this effect isn't as widely documented for obvious political reasons...

      That is because in men there is no sexual inhibition to effect.

    4. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you knew anything about these parasites, you would not write what you just did.

      Cats are carriers. Rodents are part of their life cycle. Rodents infected with these parasites tend to be "more brave", some even to the point of taunting a cat to attack them. The cat eats infected rodents, and the cycle of the parasite is complete as it returns to the soil and rodents pick it up once more.

      Humans are just unintended side show for the parasite, but since these affect behaviour in mice brains, it is not surprising these parasites affect human brains too.

      http://www.livescience.com/5631-zombie-ants-controlled-fungus.html

      Is another example of similar effects in non-mammals by other, yet similarly acting organisms.

      In a similar unrelated note, there are experiments that show even more bizarre behaviours, like effectively a "personality transplant" by a swap of gut bacteria cultures between two mice. One aggressive and another docile. Swap their gut cultures, and you swap their bahaviours!

      There is plenty of other research starting to appear in this area,
            http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110517110315.htm

      So basically, how you eat may tell what you are/may become and your becteria and viruses play bigger part in your life than you can image.

    5. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by couchslug · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Do the crazy cat ladies have cats because they are crazy, or are they crazy because they have cats?"

      Yes.

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    6. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is because in men there is no sexual inhibition to effect.

      Sure there is. It's just that rather than being controlled by the brain, it's governed by an external organ known variously as a "wife," "girlfriend," or, in the case of Slashdotters, "mother."

    7. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by dbIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stupid sexy Flanders.

    8. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by wisty · · Score: 4, Funny

      Q: What do Slashdotters use for birth control?

      A: Their mothers!

    9. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by retchdog · · Score: 2

      before someone points it out, yes "increases the relative risk by 1.8" is totally wrong. i meant, "has an observed relative risk of 1.8."

      there are several well-established causal links with low RR. for example, very moderate alcohol consumption on oral cancer; the RR is ~1.5, but the p-value is near 0, and consuming more alcohol increases the RR. it's pretty convincing, but by your rule i guess since moderate alcohol consumption has RR below 2, alcohol doesn't have a causal effect until you have ~4 drinks a day, even though the RR has an obvious increasing trend with more alcohol consumed.

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    10. Re:The chicken and egg problem all over again by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Nobody ever said that the general misogynist culture doesn't also effect MEN badly too, it does. Labels us as all potential rapists who just can't help ourselves, you know?

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  3. chicken or the egg? by LSDelirious · · Score: 2

    Which came first? Crazy cat lady got 20 cats because she is crazy, or cat lady went crazy because she has 20 cats?

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  4. don't trust em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    sure, this looks like valid research, until you see the citations

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  5. Terrorist Weapon? by sanman2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    (obligatory)
    But what if terrorists find a way to use this?

    1. Re:Terrorist Weapon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Emo music sales soar 10.000%.

    2. Re:Terrorist Weapon? by pyzondar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lolcats, schrödinger's zombiecats, misfortune-bringers of doom, spreading of mind controlling suicide parasites.. I fear cats more than any quoran toting goofball out there. It is time for someone to do something.

    3. Re:Terrorist Weapon? by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Informative

      SI standards specify that a period (or a comma, for that matter, the proper indicator is a space), should not be used for digit grouping, which means the "American" interpretation is actually the internationally accepted scientific/engineering standard.

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    4. Re:Terrorist Weapon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As it should be. Now if we could start pushing the one true Imperial unit system. Keep the faith brothers.

  6. Kill all cats. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are a menace to public health.

    That's what people would say if cats were ugly, anyway. But they are cute, so they are permitted to carry disease. Only ugly species are eligable for culling.

    1. Re:Kill all cats. by matunos · · Score: 2

      Well, they also help defend against the Plague by killing the carriers.

    2. Re:Kill all cats. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And how many have you seen before they popped out? I know I tried looking but no matter how much I stretched my wife I just couldn't see them...

      Didn't you go to any of your wife's ultrasounds during her pregnancy?

      Or do you live in the USA or other country with 3rd world medical care?

    3. Re:Kill all cats. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It has been my experience that without exception people that think of cats that way tend to be serial killers or have the potential to be serial killers anyway.

    4. Re:Kill all cats. by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      They are a menace to public health. That's what people would say if cats were ugly, anyway. But they are cute, so they are permitted to carry disease. Only ugly species are eligable for culling.

      All animals carry diseases, including human beings. Maybe we should sterilise the Earth, and leave a nice clean Lunar environment.

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    5. Re:Kill all cats. by Larryish · · Score: 2

      Nuke it from orbit.

      It's the only way to be sure.

  7. The Origin? by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 5, Funny

    The first stage in the evolution of the Gou'ald has begun.

  8. Let's tease the tiger by InterGuru · · Score: 2

    The purpose of the behavioral change in rats is to get the rat gobbled up by a cat so that the parasite could reproduce. I wonder if toxoplasmosis in humans promotes reckless and suicidal behavior. This would give the parasite another opportunity to reproduce. Just imagine 50,000 years ago a suicidal or reckless person decided to taunt a hungry tiger. One strike by the annoyed tiger, and the toxoplasmosis would have access to a warm cat gut to reproduce. Isn't nature wonderful

    1. Re:Let's tease the tiger by azalin · · Score: 2

      Does anyone know how well toxoplasmosis reproduces in the warm guts of an SUV?

  9. Zombie Virus by jamesh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Once the cats perfect this virus it's all over...

    1. Re:Zombie Virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean "purr-fect" this virus, eh?

  10. Correlation != causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Exactly. Also:

    2) the parasite spreads itself by infecting the nervous system of rodents, causing them to become suicidally attracted to feline odors

    Suicidally? Being attracted to something known to shorten your lifespan doesn't mean you're suicidal. Take one example: Americans gorging themselves on McDonald's, then flooding hospitals with heart disease cases in an attempt to stay alive. If they were suicidal, they'd just keep eating more burgers and look emo about it till they died.

    1. Re:Correlation != causation by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to mention the fact that attraction to feline odors is only suicidal to humans when we run into burning buildings to try and retrieve our kitties from underneath the bed, and emerge with second-degree burns and major laceration wounds (burns from the fire, laceration wounds from... well, nevermind. Our little kitty is safe. Pissed, but he'll get over that as soon as we give him some tuna.)

    2. Re:Correlation != causation by busyqth · · Score: 3, Funny

      Take one example: Americans gorging themselves on McDonald's

      Even Americans we know that there's more to life than McDonalds.
      For example, there's Burger King, KFC, Taco Bell, Dunkin Donuts and all sorts of other places.

  11. Religion too by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 2

    Also evidence of correlation with religion ; a higher incidence than average amongst Muslims and Christians (a shame this study didn't assay Atheists though).

  12. 50% is still not that much by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A 50% increase is statistically significant, but in absolute numbers wouldn't make that much of a difference, certainly well under the "killed by cars" number, and we don't care enough about that to actually fix the problem.

    What I see out of this, and others like it, is that there are a large number of diseases we get infected with over our lives that never leave us, and have effects well into our old age. We wouldn't have "evolved" out of them because the evolutionary pressure for things that don't affect us until after we've passed on our genes is small and indirect. How many "diseases" and infections do we have by the time we are die? What would our old age be like if we managed to avoid/cure them all?

    1. Re:50% is still not that much by Hatta · · Score: 2

      A 50% increase is statistically significant

      No, you don't know whether it's statistically significant unless you know the uncertainty in the measurement. A 50% increase with a standard deviation of 100% would not be statistically significant. A 1% increase with a standard deviation of .1% would be statistically significant. And that's all without considering sample size.

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  13. My evidence differs... by bughunter · · Score: 2

    Of course, my evidence consists of multiple repeated viewings of Tom and Jerry, Sylvester and Tweety, and Pinky and the Brain, but according to my research, it's exposure to Mince and Rats that creates suicidal tendencies in Cats.

    Just saying.

    Narf.

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  14. Re:A witch weighs the same as a duck by i286NiNJA · · Score: 2

    There is no "Uninformative" to mod you down.
    Yeah they've done plenty of studies linking various changes in human behavior to toxoplasmosis infection. Your claim is so strange that I almost wonder if you're part of the pro-toxoplasmosis conspiracy or maybe you're a toxoplasmosis forcing a crazy cat lady to type these things.

  15. Re:Are they sure it's not just "women with cats" by macraig · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, I'm a crazy cat MAN, you insensitive chauvinist clod!

  16. Interesting topic, poor summary by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Danish study is just the latest in a long series of studies which demonstrate a correlation between toxoplasmosis seropositivity and psychiatric problems-- it's been linked to schizophrenia and ADHD, and so on. Wikipedia has a good article on the topic.

    It's pretty interesting. Apparently something like 10% of the US population is seropositive for toxo. The infection is thought to be "contained" immunologically, but encysted organisms are still present in muscle and nervous tissue, and the process of "containment" may induce a subtle inflammatory state which affects a broad variety of neurotransmitters (not just dopamine). It's also possible that the causation works the other way-- the people who get chronic infections may have something about their immune system that is different to begin with, and the difference might predispose them to psychiatric problems independently of toxo infection. Good discussion of all that in the Danish study, which was published in Archives of General Psych and seems to be non-paywalled.

    What will be really interesting is to see what happens if you identify psychiatric patients with chronic toxo and try to eradicate the toxo with antibiotics-- do their psych symptoms improve? There have been at least two studies I could find (one where it helped and one where it didn't), and apparently there's a large-scale study getting started in the UK.

  17. Same parasite causes MISCARRIAGES during prenancy by ivi · · Score: 2

    Subj says it all. Others may have noticed the same.

    Could those in the extra 53% suicidal women have suffered earlier miscarriages, by any chance?

  18. Control group by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For people who are wondering, it looks like they didn't have a good control group. So here is how they answered some potential objections:

    1) What if depressed people get cats, and that's why they have the parasite? Did they check people who have cats but aren't depressed?
    It's probably not related to cats, because most people who get this parasite get it from undercooked meat.

    2) What if depressed people are more susceptible to this parasite because they are depressed? What if non-depressed people are capable of fighting off the parasite with a stronger immune system?
    There was no correlation between people who had the parasite, and people who had a history of mental illness. (Also, correlates with other studies, that might have had better control groups, I'm too lazy to check them out to see).

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  19. Re:A witch weighs the same as a duck by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hello, looks like you've thought up an objection within 5 seconds of reading the summary. Given that these scientists have spent several years working on this project, you don't think they could have also thought of something similar, do you? Oh wait, they did.

    Next time, please at least read the article before spreading your inanity. Scientists usually think of the simple stuff.

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  20. Increased rate in traffic accidents by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You seem to know about this field. Can you translate this part for me?

    Separate logistic regression for RhD-negative subjects showed a 2.53 times higher risk of traffic accidents in Toxoplasma-infected than Toxoplasma-free subjects (CI95: 1.12–5.7, t = 2.23, P = 0.026). http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2334/9/72

    Are they really saying that this is causing "2.53 times higher risk of traffic accidents" among their infected population of Czech male military draftees???

    Imagine the repercussions if this is found to be also true in other populations (not that it will be, and not that correlation equals causation, but...):

    Car Insurance rates (or driver licenses) could start depending on the results of those blood tests. Criminal sentencing could be affected by the results of those tests. And at the very minimum, the next time you'd fill out a questionnaire for getting car insurance, or filling out an application for becoming a truck driver or operating heavy machinery, or applying to get into the military, you'd be asked all kinds of questions about your history with cats (whether you owned one, your significant other owned one, or whether your family ever owned one while you were growing up).

    1. Re:Increased rate in traffic accidents by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      or applying to get into the military, you'd be asked all kinds of questions about your history with cats

      Well, I ate a pussy once

  21. a better explanation of the study by WiPEOUT · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:a better explanation of the study by marcosdumay · · Score: 2

      only 1% later self-harmed

      Thanks, I was looking for that number. That's quite significant with 45k people.

    2. Re:a better explanation of the study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And the effect size is moderate. But the actual risk in absolute number terms for any given individual remains small, and the trumps the other data. The linked discussion in Nursing Times makes clear that the study was not well controlled. It also points out that there are multiple potential sources of toxoplasmosis infection, most of which are considerably more common ways of getting the infection than handling cats. So, no reason to put kitty to sleep just yet.

  22. Re:A witch weighs the same as a duck by GrahamCox · · Score: 2

    British rednecks

    I know what you're trying to say, but this is a contradiction in terms. There is no sun in Britain to give anyone a red neck.

  23. Obligatory by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3

    Crazy or just plain HOT? You decide :)

  24. Re:Really? by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

    I think it T. gondii attacks some regulatory function in the brain that inhibits risk-taking behavior, which for rodents is associated via different mechanisms with the detection of cats and other predators.

    The rodents in question remain afraid of open spaces and unfamiliar foods. The only thing that appears to be targeted is the fear of cat urine.

  25. Re:Another reason not to have animals as pets by snowraver1 · · Score: 2

    My cat has a better life than me, you insensitive clod!

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  26. Re:I have 7 cats by BluBrick · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe Toxoplasma gondii merely causes its hosts to engage in higher risk behaviours. In the wild, for small prey animals such as rats and mice, that is likely to be lethal and result in being eaten by a suitable carrier, but in this artificial environment we live in, perhaps it manifests in other ways. For example, flouting controlled substance laws to gamble 20-30 IQ points against a little temporary euphoria - then bragging about it - that sort of thing.

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  27. In Dutch it is called "dakhaas" by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2

    Dakhaas literally means roofrabbit and refers to the fact that if you cut the legs, you can pass cat for rabbit. Not in practice anymore but we did have the hungerwinter here thanks to the Americans being to scared to advance and leave the British and Polish forces without backup.

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    1. Re:In Dutch it is called "dakhaas" by rxmd · · Score: 2

      Coincidentally, in German it's called "Dachhase" and the origin is probably the siege of Vienna by the Turks in 1683, so I guess you got the term from the Germans.

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  28. Re:Another reason not to have animals as pets by busyqth · · Score: 2

    Most countries now have a ban on having humans as slaves so why not have a ban on animals as slave as well?

    Because that would be stupid.

  29. Re:Another reason not to have animals as pets by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    In addition to it being torture on the animal it will have all sorts of negative effects on humans, and this is just one of them. Having animals as "pets" essentially holding them prisoner. We have come to a point we no longer need animals for anything whether it is food, clothing, companionship, rescue, etc. Most countries now have a ban on having humans as slaves so why not have a ban on animals as slave as well?

    Good luck trying to keep a cat prisoner.

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  30. Cat have already "hacked" our instincts. by DrYak · · Score: 2

    How can you be certain they work via a mechanism other than the parasite?

    Take a few random specimen of the felidae family.
    For each specimen, compare the young baby with the adult.
    - lion cub and adult lion
    - kitten and adult house cat
    etc.

    Notice anything peculiar? Unlike the wilder specimen, house cats tend to retain much more juvenile caracteristics: bigger eyes, more fluffy. (And that works also for noise: most bigger cats tend to be silent, or occasionnaly express deep menacing roars. Only house cats (even more than alley cats) tend to meow a lot, and keep a rather high-pitched voice). etc.

    We human tend to be pre-wired to be attracted to some traits (bigger eyes, high pitched voices, etc.) because that's how our babies look like. Thus we tend to find cats adorable because they share common trait with the babies that we're pre-wired to find adorable. From that point of view kittens are The Über-cats: even fluffier, even bigger eyes, even higher pitched voice, etc.

    Common cats have co-evolved with human while optimising some of their characteristics to be better appreciated by humans. In a way they have "hacked" into our instinctive behaviours. They don't need parasites to achieve that, they evolved their aspect so we can't resist but find them adorable.

    Note that the same could be noticed with other species which got adopted by the humans: in the canidae family compare adults dogs and wolves relative to their puppies dogs have partly evolved to look nicer and sweater. (well in the case of dogs there are other advantages too which led to humans adopting them, including social behaviour - dogs are highly social, hierarchical animals living in packs and hunting in an organised manner. Exactly like humans, thus making them interesting as hunting aids. Whereas cats are more autonomous. Their either live alone or in herds, making them more interesting as a "set and forget" solution to eradicate pests like rodent)

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