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The Ugly, Profitable Details About Xbox Live Advertising

An anonymous reader writes "In an editorial at Penny Arcade, Ben Kuchera writes about how Microsoft's subscription-based Xbox Live platform has become an advertising cash cow — to the detriment of users who already pay for the service. Quoting: 'People who don't play video games would be forgiven if they turned on an Xbox 360 and didn't realize it was a device used to primarily play games. The first screen you see on the Xbox 360 Dashboard is often a mixture of ads for all sorts of goods and services, and many times games are in the minority of ad slots. The latest redesign increased the ad space that can be sold to advertisers, and that in turn increased this problem. Let's be clear, it is a problem. Game discovery is terrible in the current design of Xbox Live, and the usability of a system that used to be about games is suffering in order for Microsoft to make money on ads. Sadly, this issue isn't going away: Ad sales simply bring in too much money to ignore, and revenue is growing. ... I contacted Microsoft and asked how much advertising revenue impacted the profitability of the Xbox 360. "We don't share this information publicly but we can tell you that, since 2010, the advertising business has grown 142%," I was told.'"

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  1. So, basically ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With Xbox Live you pay to receive ads. With PSN, you don't pay a dime and still get online gaming.

    While I'm acting smug as a PS3 owner, who doesn't have to put up with Microsoft's bullshit, I have to wonder just how much longer Sony's offering will last.

    1. Re:So, basically ... by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are absolutely right my friend. I find it amazing that people will pay money to receive ads. This is why we need a non profit FOSS console that doesn't do this crap.

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    2. Re:So, basically ... by hbean · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lots of people pay for cable, and there's a ton of ads on it. Just saying.

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  2. Filter it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was really annoyed with this when they first updated the console so the home screen was overrun with ads. I simply blocked their ad sub domain on my router. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Filter it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      rad.msn.com
      msnvidweb.vo.msecnd.net

    2. Re:Filter it. by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What makes it even more annoying is that there were *2* primary reasons for the Xbox Dash redesign:

      1) make it 100% Kinect-accessible
      2) promote content more (much of it paid) and increase advertising space

      So, they changed the fairly decent previous Xbox Dashboard to something designed around products I don't want to see and a UI navigation mechanism I don't want to use. For the vast majority of users out there who just want to use a controller to play a game or watch a movie, it's a major step backwards in usability.

  3. For Xbox 360 users ... by LordNimon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a method you can use to block some of those ads:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/n5831/how_to_block_xbox_dashboard_ads/

    It doesn't block all of them, but it does block most of the animated, generic ads that aren't related to gaming.

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  4. Dashboard Devolution by decipher_saint · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't own an original XBox, so I don't have a frame of reference but I've noticed that since I bought my 360 in 2008 most updates to the Dashboard have been working hard at making it more difficult to find my games or my home media.

    In fact, with the latest batches of updates (Metro-like?) I've found it very difficult to get to games I want to play in my library, to the point now that I forego the GUI and go straight to the "quick play" option (which is basically just an alphabetically sorted list). And browsing my home network has been completely removed in lieu of streaming (yuck, no thanks).

    I think Microsoft could learn a thing or two from Valve, Steam is pretty easy to use but is also a ad delivery system, I can find everything rather easily in Steam and I find it a lot less annoying than the 360 Dashboard, also Steam has sales for games that don't suck, and that makes me want to spend money but hey, that's just my opinion...

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  5. Cable TV anyone? by NalosLayor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to point out the rotting dead fish in the middle of the room, but this is exactly what happened with cable TV, and yet there is no real outrage on that front any more. I'm not saying it's the right thing...or even "acceptable" but customers seem to never balk at ads, and content streamers never turn down a revenue stream. It feels almost inevitable.

  6. Product placement by tepples · · Score: 4, Funny

    Same reason why I will never have cable, and would cancel netflix in an instant if they ever showed a single advertisement on streaming.

    Add The Wizard (1989) to your queue. Watch it. Realized you just watched a 90 minute infomercial for Virtual Console on Wii. Cancel Netflix.

  7. Re:Not new, not special by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are ads that load in when you connect to PSN. However, most of those ads are for games/videos you can download from PSN.

    Same thing goes for Xbox Live. I'm an XBL user and I didn't really notice the change that much, because it's no different than what Google is doing with Android Market and what Apple does with its iOS and Mac App Stores.

    It's completely different.

    Apple and Google relegate their advertising to their app stores - you know, a special place specifically designed for you to go and buy stuff? It would be the same thing, if every time you turned on your Android or iDevice, you were smacked upside the head with ad after ad, but that's not the case.

    Also worth noting, Apple and Google don't charge you for the privilege.

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  8. Re:What exactly is suffering? by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes we will get off your lawn grandpa.