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NVIDIA Kills Online Store In Response To Hacker Claims

wiredmikey writes "Following a shutdown of its 'NVIDIA Developer Zone,' earlier this week after the online community for developers had been hacked, the graphics chip maker on Friday also shut down its online store. The group of hackers behind the attack, going by the handle of 'The Apollo Project,' made mention of the claimed compromise in its original post exhibiting its successful attack against the NVIDIA Developer Zone site. While the company has shut down the online store, it has not acknowledged that a successful attack has taken place. 'NVIDIA has suspended operation of the NVIDIA Gear Store (store.nvidia.com) as a precaution, following confirmed attacks on several of our other sites,' read a statement posted on the site posted. The claimed attackers wrote, 'We aren't acting extremely maliciously, we've used this database to target disgusting corporations who deserve to be brought to justice.. and we are getting there, slowly but surely.'"

70 comments

  1. and left no way to complain about buggy drivers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i suspect a conspiracy. first comes a wildly unstable driver for win8 RP and now NVidia is incommunicado

    1. Re:and left no way to complain about buggy drivers by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      um i think its smart of them to shutdown those, if you get hacked not exactly smart idea to wait for it to happen again before you check other area's as well.

  2. nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wonder if they'll serve hotdogs?

    1. Re:nice by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1

      Wonder if they'll serve hotdogs?

      But who will mine them??

  3. Vigilante circus. by Ostracus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The claimed attackers wrote, 'We aren't acting extremely maliciously, we've used this database to target disgusting corporations who deserve to be brought to justice.. and we are getting there, slowly but surely.'"

    1-what crime?

    2-Who died and made them the long arm of the law?

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    1. Re:Vigilante circus. by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2

      Exactly. NVidia hasn't done anything of note except produce good video cards and GPUs.

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    2. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Justice doesn't mean "punishment for illegal actions," it means punishment for immoral action. The legal structure has co-opted this term, and conflated it with law. Please don't let that interfere with your thinking.

      That said, I don't see what heinous actions Nvidia has taken. Then again, I also have not read the article.

    3. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly. NVidia hasn't done anything of note except produce good video cards and GPUs.

      They must be disgruntled about 3DFX like I am.

    4. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that nvidia is paying pennies on the card, and turning around and selling it for almost 400% of the actual cards value.
      No Crime?
      HAH!!! do your research!

    5. Re:Vigilante circus. by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't like nVidia's prices? Don't buy it. Last time I checked nVidia didn't hold a gun to your head and force you to put in a new nVidia graphics card.

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    6. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but clearly it's a crime to sell your own property at prices that certain individuals don't like!

    7. Re:Vigilante circus. by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1-what crime?

      2-Who died and made them the long arm of the law?

      Despite that I'll be modded into oblivion for this. This isn't any different that what OWS protesters have been doing for months on end, and it hasn't been any different than what the student protesters have been doing in Quebec have been doing for months on end. In both cases they've been going off the deep end and getting more violent, believing that "corporations" or "schools" or "wall street" need to be brought to justice for crimes against who knows what. I'm sure the grievances are very valid in their minds, and whatever they tell themselves, or are being told by whatever professor or community organizer or handler is telling them to believe, but that doesn't make it so.

      As for the question of "who died and made them the long arm of the law?" Well that's obvious, they made themselves the long arm of the law. This is the pure anti-corporatism of the left.

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    8. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the pure anti-corporatism of the left.

      Stop playing idiotic left vs right political games and realize that such nonsense is simply a distraction. The [OTHER SIDE] must be responsible for everything bad that happens...

    9. Re:Vigilante circus. by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 1

      Ha, you said good video cards!

      Sorry, I had to post it before someone else would. Really I don't hate on Nvidia, being second to AMD in the desktop gaming market has caught them a bit of flak, but they still perform great. And they're top when it comes to mobile graphics (not that mobile gaming is all that big a market).

      So alright, their marketing may be a bit overzealous, but that's no reason to hack them over. Hackers are probably just mad their nvidia cards melted when they figured out what overclocking is (hey, I wouldn't be surprised!) and then guise it under, "oooOOOOoooo nvidia is an evil company we're the good guys like Anonymous and Lulzsec".

      So let's hear what Nvidia has done that's so evil it warrants them being hacked.

    10. Re:Vigilante circus. by Errtu76 · · Score: 1

      :)

      I can still remember my Diamond Monster 3D card, Then later added a second one with the SLI(?) cable. Good old times.

    11. Re:Vigilante circus. by stevenh2 · · Score: 2

      Like Intel or AMD. They probably design their own chips and that costs more money then manufacturing them.

    12. Re:Vigilante circus. by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Laws != moral. It is not just to as a human to punish another human for an immoral action because then we become tyrannical gods. Laws should have the sole purpose of punishing harm done to individuals and their property without their consent such as murder and theft. If we change justice to including morals we pervert the meaning of justice. Is it just to stone an adulteress? Of course not, but in many cultures being an adulteress is immoral.

      Laws should just cover the bare minimum, don't murder, don't steal, etc. Morals fill in the rest and morals are quite different between each person, even people with the same culture and beliefs. You only need to look at the 14th chapter of Romans to see that.

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    13. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Huh. I guess you haven't heard about the 5xx or 6xx lines of Nvidia cards? AMD's falling further and further behind, and as an avid supporter and exclusive buyer of AMD cards myself, I can understand why you're feeling defensive. But I'm afraid the benchmarks don't lie - AMD is in trouble.

    14. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, you said good video cards!

      Sorry, I had to post it before someone else would. Really I don't hate on Nvidia, being second to AMD in the desktop gaming market [...]

      What planet do you live on?

    15. Re:Vigilante circus. by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1-what crime?

      Making profit.

      2-Who died and made them the long arm of the law?

      Nobody died and they aren't the law.

      This isn't vigilantism, this is simple defacement and theft. Vigilantism is motivated by a desire for justice, and a perceived indifference or selective enforcement of laws. They haven't stated what crimes NVidia should be held accountable for; which means there probably aren't any. Some examples of what 'proper' vigilantism might be motivated by would be illegal dumping of toxic waste, mistreatment of their workforce, manipulation of stock prices, colluding with other manufacturers to fix the prices of key information commodities, or excerting monopoly powers over a market.

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    16. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That said, I don't see what heinous actions Nvidia has taken. Then again, I also have not read the article.

      Haven't you noticed? nVidia is using massive factories of slave labour of little people. I mean tiny people. About 1 micrometer tall each. They have to scrub the silicon clean and then etch the circuits while working under deadly ultra-violet radiation. And now, on top of that, they are only using the tiny hands of the tiny people's kids as they reduced their "process"!!! This must stop!! NOW!!!

    17. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Corruption? Price-fixing? Lies to open source community? STUPID ASS NAMING SCHEMES? Probably some others.

      2) The law did. The law died.

      Nvidia aren't innocent. But neither are these guys.

    18. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the pure anti-corporatism of the left.

      You may want to look that word up.

    19. Re:Vigilante circus. by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Exactly. NVidia hasn't done anything of note except produce good video cards and GPUs.

      ... And obscene gestures from Linus Torvards.

      Well, and me, for that matter. Although I think the main video glitches I see have something to with Flash already having mucked things up to begin with.

      Still, that's a "crime" that doesn't deserve quite that severe a punishment.

    20. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have fun in that imaginary world.

      The time any large place defines the line between lawful and moral actions is beyond the end of days.

      Fuck man, even legal things are being made illegal, WITHOUT any changes in law.
      See any case related to media industry, there is always bending of laws there. Whether it is linking to a site or just speaking about things.

    21. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. NVidia hasn't done anything of note except produce good video cards and GPUs.

      Those bastards!

    22. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly. NVidia hasn't done anything of note except produce good video cards and GPUs.

      They must be disgruntled about 3DFX like I am.

      3DFX has no one to blame for their downfall but themselves. (This is coming from a former 3DFX fanboy.)

      They blew a TON of cash buying the card maker STB, a manufacturer that had major quality issues.
      Their Direct X support was rubbish, instead they concentrated on Glide.
      They took waaaay too long to get the Voodoo 4/5 to market, and then another 6 months of paper release.
      And lastly they concentrated solely on the high end market. Nvidia made bank from their low cost Riva and TNT lines selling to OEMs which gave them money and time to come out with their GeForce line. By the time the GeForce 2 came out, 3DFX had blundered their way into bankruptcy.

      Three months after I finally got my hands on a brand new Voodoo 5500, 3DFX folded up shop.

    23. Re:Vigilante circus. by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 1

      Context doesn't lie either. They were second for a long time. Did I say, "catching some flak" or "caught some flak"?

      Another reason why grammar is important.

    24. Re:Vigilante circus. by DigiShaman · · Score: 3

      You must be talking about the Monster 3D II. The original Diamond Monster 3D was a Voodoo 1 card. SLI wasn't implemented until the Voodoo 2 series.

      Ok, turning back the wayback machine here. But here's a breakdown (from memory) of my old but much loved gaming rig. The year was late 1996

      CPU = Intel Pentium 166
      Motherboard = Biostar AT with 430FX chipset
      RAM = 24MB of EDO
      Audio = Sound Blaster AWE34 PnP (long ISA card with upgradable SIMM banks)
      Modem = USRobotics Sportster 33.6 (internal ISA card)
      Storage1 = 1GB Conner IDE HDD
      Storage2 = 4x CDROM IDE
      Storage3 = 3.25 1.44MB Floppy drive
      Video1 = Diamond Stealth64 Video S3-Vision968 PCI with 2MB (upgradable to 4MB) of VRAM.
      Video2 = Diamond Monster 3D
      Input = Microsoft serial mouse and some generic AT keyboard.

      That machine was a BOSS for its time. It owned all gaming back then. Never broke a sweat when playing Duke Nukem3D.

      Total cost = shitloads. Actually, I don't remember. My parents paid for the base build as a graduation present. I just paid for the gaming upgrades.

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    25. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2-Who died and made them the long arm of the law?

      Justice herself.

    26. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Corruption" is just a word people throw around when they don't have anything specific to complain about. Price-fixing doesn't mean what you probably think it does, or ATI would've been attacked along with NVidia. Stupid naming schemes isn't a crime.

      NVidia looks a lot more innocent than those hackers.

    27. Re:Vigilante circus. by dkuntz · · Score: 1

      Very much so. I hear crap like this every day, and only because it's the opposite of their beliefs.

      Republican: My car broke down because of a bad tune up, it's because of Obama's (something) package!
      Democrat: "My AC unit stopped in a heatwave, because the AC repairman couldn't get a part! This is because Bush made the rest of the world angry, so they wont ship the part!

      Muslim: It's all the Christians fault!
      Christians: It's all the Muslim's fault!
      China: Eh, everybody buys stuff we produced, we dont care.

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    28. Re:Vigilante circus. by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      To be fair, DirectX was still in it's infancy with version 2.0 that came with Window 95 OSR2. If you had the original version of Windows 95, DirectX was not included. It got installed with whatever application used it. Also, the Direct3D portion was extremely limited in functionality. Glide on the other hand was a very close cousin of OpenGL if I remember. In fact, a Voodoo1 card could run QuakeGL without trouble. Although it does beg the question as to why 3Dfx didn't just stick with OpenGL as the standard to begin with. Could be worse. It could have been worse. They could have ended up like Rendition with their own RRedline API.

      I'm still amazed that someone as new as nVidia could come in and take on the establishment that was S3, Rendition, 3Dfx, PowerVR, and Matrox. Eventually even leaving SGI to wither on the vine in obsolescence. Just wow!

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    29. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck yeah! The Monster Voodoo II was so awesome at the time! I had two of them SLI'd

    30. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The fact that nvidia is paying pennies on the card, and turning around and selling it for almost 400% of the actual cards value.
      No Crime?
      HAH!!! do your research!

      Okay, research done. I haven't found any law against charging the price you want for a nonvital luxury item. Your point?

      Oh, and before you ask, I also looked up whether "I can't afford that video card!" is grounds to invent a crime with which you can charge someone. It isn't.

    31. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but they did register patents with the government, which holds guns, which could very plausibly end up pointed at somebody's head if they don't respect those patents

    32. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'We aren't acting extremely maliciously, we've used this database to target disgusting corporations who deserve to be brought to justice.. and we are getting there, slowly but surely.'"

      That will make it acceptable to the majority of Slashdotters.

    33. Re:Vigilante circus. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      And wood screws.

    34. Re:Vigilante circus. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      ... And obscene gestures from Linus Torvards.

      Which is why no Linux game player would EVER use an nVidia card, they all use ATI/AMD cards.

      Oh wait.

    35. Re:Vigilante circus. by swalve · · Score: 1

      Two wrongs don't make a right.

    36. Re:Vigilante circus. by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Another reason why grammar is important.

      Indeed, which is why your post was wrong if you meant it to be in the past tense. I read it as the present tense because that's the way you wrote it.

      What you said: "Really I don't hate on Nvidia, being [present participle] second to AMD in the desktop gaming market has caught [present perfect] them a bit of flak, but they still perform great."

      What you should have said was: "Really I don't hate on Nvidia. Having been second to AMD in the desktop gaming market caught them a bit of flak, but they still perform great."

      Or something else that wouldn't have been so misleading. And while I'm sure somebody could nitpick the grammar in my post, (like the previous sentence fragment), the gist is correct.

    37. Re:Vigilante circus. by sortius_nod · · Score: 1

      I think I've built upwards of 100 of those machines in my time as a young tech in a small computer store. Here in AU, something like that would have been in the $3000-$4000 range, depending on brands used. Such a glorious time in computers... for retailers.

    38. Re:Vigilante circus. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

      If any of my computers had ever started sweating, I think I would have just quietly stood up, and backed away from the damned thing. Very quietly. And, backed very far away. Scary idea . . .

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    39. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      V. I. Lenin called. He wants his comedy routine back.

    40. Re:Vigilante circus. by EdIII · · Score: 1

      And they're top when it comes to mobile graphics

      As far as I am concerned they blow, at least in mobile.

      Lately I have been looking at high end laptops with docking ports capable of running multiple screens. They are marketed for engineers/CAD, etc. and specifically talk about and show multiple screen setups (docking port required of course). NVidia can't deliver. *Only* AMD delivers the multiple screens.

      NVidia can add thousands at the high end to the cost of the laptop as well, and not even add multiple screens. AMD is the bottom offering every time, and can. Go figure.

    41. Re:Vigilante circus. by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      That said, I don't see what heinous actions Nvidia has taken. Then again, I also have not read the article.

      Maybe just read the summery again. It is not an attack on NVidia, the entire quote you refer to explains that they intend to use the database they got to attack bad corporations. Not that NVidia is bad, just a stepping stone.

    42. Re:Vigilante circus. by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      corruption is not a crime it is a lack of ethics.
      lying may or may not be illegal depending on the situation.
      stupid ass naming scheme is a pain to work with but hardly illegal.
      the law did what? declared that it was ok to break the law because you have don't like them and use morality as a excuse?
      nvidia aren't innocent of what? what actual law or contract have they actually broke.

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    43. Re:Vigilante circus. by Errtu76 · · Score: 1

      Yep, Monster 3D II indeed. My primary card was the same as you, but I invested in a Gravis Ultrasound card for music since I liked the Assembly demoscene and that was a must have :)

      And I wanted a big harddisk so I spent about $600 on a 2G Quantum Bigfoot ;)

      I think my phone now has better specs than my system back then, but yeah, gaming ruled!

      Also I upgraded my mobo and CPU (a 486DX2-80) to a P1 133 MHz so I could play Moto Racer without a problem.

    44. Re:Vigilante circus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which made sense back then since DirectX/3d was highly inferior when it came to hardware accelerated games.
      So I highly doubt that was the reason they went under.

  4. Forums are offline as well by Pop69 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not just what's mentioned in the summary.

    1. Re:Forums are offline as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forums are compromised as well. I got a mail that the passwords have been reset. It's deja vu all over again (after the Gawker/Lifehacker hack).

  5. disguisting corporations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    target disgusting corporations who deserve to be brought to justice.

    So.... they pick nVidia, and NOT Google, Apple, Sony, or Microsoft?

    Seriously? nVidia isn't perfect, but they don't seem remotely as evil as the above four.

    1. Re:disguisting corporations? by Grave · · Score: 1

      Hacking Sony isn't exactly impressive, or new. I don't think there is anything left of Sony that hasn't been hacked already.

      On the other hand, Google and Microsoft have sufficient security that any significant hack would be quite legendary. Dunno (or care) about Apple.

    2. Re:disguisting corporations? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 0

      how exactly is Google being evil?

      they sell ads that pays for your use.

      they collect your information they do that to target adds to pay for your use of their service. don't like that don't use them. unlike a os or hardware you can switch services to any competitor with a couple key strokes, just type WWW.bing.com or WWW.ask.com or WWW.duckduckgo.com or WWW.yahoo.com etc,etc,etc...

      "but their scripts are embedded in web pages i visit" then talk to the page owners about it. maybe that i because they use them for a essential part of their own services in that case get over it or leave. if not grab no-script and block Google.

      they don't lock you out of your own hardware like Microsoft plans on doing in 8 or Sony does with play-station. they aren't attacking everyone under the sun for having tablets with a flat screen and four sides like apple.

      they have made a few oops like adding every email contact to your friends list but they apologized and fixed their mistake. there was also must use real name clause in their T.O.S. not really all that unusual a requirement that they won't do squat all if you ignore it, lie people its the internet.

      just because they have the potential for evil does not make them evil.

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  6. Actual post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Actual post by Raenex · · Score: 1

      So in summary, it's a bunch of dopey hackers justifying their actions because the world isn't perfect. *golf clap*

      Nevermind that these "disgusting corporations" give these turds the computers that they hack with and jobs to their parents so that they may live in their basements.

  7. Not extremely maliciously? by svick · · Score: 2

    Let me get this straight. They're not acting extremely maliciously, they're only acting very maliciously?

    1. Re:Not extremely maliciously? by Cinder6 · · Score: 1

      That caught my attention, too. "I'm not going to murder you--I'm not that evil. But I will help myself to your stuff. Can I come in?"

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  8. Crazed idiocy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's disgusting about NVIDIA? Is this related to Linus' public flogging of the company?

    I interned there a few years ago and their explanation for the driver not being open sourced is true, though it might not please people. The bulk of the driver code is in a platform-agnostic library used by Windows, OSX, and Linux. This code is then adapted to each platform by a small separate team. This means that the Linux driver doesn't lag the Windows driver in support. Unfortunately it also means that to add the driver into the kernel they'd need a disjoint and likely non-trivial effort to refactor and keep the kernel version up to par. I won't judge who is in the right ideologically here, but to call it "disgusting" shows a gross lack of perspective.

  9. nVidia is a valuable company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For years, I would nsist on nVidia for its graphics drivers that would work just with Ubuntu. nVidia brought CUDA to the parallel programmer, and helped along openCL. nVidia and ATI are the leaders in 3D and push its boundaries. I wish more companies would contribute to advancing technology like nVidia.

  10. Sh*t happens... by KrazyDave · · Score: 1

    ... when they obstinately refuse to offer an array of Linux support.

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    1. Re:Sh*t happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So NVIDIA doesn't support your preferred OS in exactly the way you'd like, and therefore they deserve to have their systems broken into?

    2. Re:Sh*t happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had it coming. Nvidia turned there backs on the community that there servers run on (i guarantee they are using apach2, and probably php, MYSQL on some linux distro ). The least they can do is offer development tools for the linux community to build there own.

  11. Actually the lack of hacking caused it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they had hired enough proficient hackers, this would not have happened and the crackers would have picked an easier target.

    See the definition of the word hacker.

  12. who's fault? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Muslim: It's all the Christians fault!
    Christians: It's all the Muslim's fault!

    Those two are true.

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  13. nvidia stock? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    "Oh, and nVidia forgot to tell you that shop.nvidia.com has also been compromised. nVidia minimizing the affect that the hack will have on its stock price? SHORT SELL, SHORT SELL."

    I'll hang on to my stock, I have several thousand dollars tied up in it, but don't see why I should be worried. NVIDIA's web store doesn't seem like a major source of revenue.

    "Think for yourself, and question authority." -- http://pastebin.com/G21ytATD

    Was there much thought put into the rant? I had difficulty trying to figure out what cause I am supposed to join. Maybe corporations are bad in general? I do know a few hackers who are really serious marxists (and will defend their position rationally and effectively). But this particular hacker rant isn't of the same calibre that I am used to.

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    1. Re:nvidia stock? by KingMotley · · Score: 1

      I'll watch their stock carefully over the next few days and buy some if it drops. And the "hacker" who did this? Obviously either very young or very dumb. Fool, if you are going to write your message to the world, learn some grammar. It is "too" not "to", "surprised" not "suprised", and you should have used malicious, not maliciously. You also used commas where periods should be, and you've created numerous run-on sentences. This should pass even second grade. You fail.

    2. Re:nvidia stock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The stock is never up when I'm allowed to sell it. :(

  14. SDK PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, I tried to download their SDK yesterday :(.