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Thirty Years of Clamshell Computing

harrymcc writes "2012 marks the thirtieth anniversary of the Grid Compass 1101, the first portable computer with a briefcase-like case with a keyboard on one side of the interior, a flat screen on the other, and a hinge in the middle--the 'clamshell' design that eventually became standard for all portable PCs. It's proven to be a remarkably useful and durable design, and only with the advent of the iPad has it faced serious competition."

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  1. Ten years of FIRST POST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sometimes I question my priorities in life.

  2. Model 100 by ISoldat53 · · Score: 3

    The Tandy Model 100 gave it competition way before the iPad.

    1. Re:Model 100 by MyLongNickName · · Score: 1

      For certain values of "competition", yes :) The Tandy seemed to be ahead of its time but unfortunately ahead of public demand.

      http://www.old-computers.com/museum/hardware.asp?t=1&c=233&st=1

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    2. Re:Model 100 by kubernet3s · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well yeah, and the design of the iPad has all the efficiency and productivity enhancing qualities of a rhino having noisy diarrheain the middle of one's office cubicle. If 60 wpm counts as "competition" to you, you don't really need a computer, do you?

    3. Re:Model 100 by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      And, as the article says – not a clam shell.

      IIRC the Tandy Model 100 was the last piece of software personally coded by Bill Gates.

    4. Re:Model 100 by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      The Tandy Model 100 gave it competition way before the iPad.

      No. The Tandy Model 100 did exist before the iPad, but it was nowhere near as popular as the iPad.

      Competition doesn't just mean that alternatives exist. They also have to be popular enough to matter.

    5. Re:Model 100 by vlm · · Score: 1

      The 200 was released in 1984 and was a clamshell, that's probably what is confusing the guy.

      I suppose if you wanna get really picky and demand clamshell with LCD as opposed to plasma then the model 200 wins.

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    6. Re:Model 100 by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      You linked to the TRS-80 which, according to ars technica, was the #1 selling computer of its time (1977,78,79). Mainly because it was in Radio Shack where many hobbyists shopped.

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    7. Re:Model 100 by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2

      You are right that the TRS-80 was a popular system in the space it was in. I had a Model I and a Model IV, so I know I enjoyed the Tandy brand. Don't confuse market leadership with having a mature market.

      If you went to an office, you didn't see a Tandy (or other computer) at every workstation and most families didn't have a computer at home. By the time computers really started to hit the mainstream, Tandy had flamed out and became a distant memory. I even had a 1000 Series, but it would be my last... too proprietary, too locked in and worst of all, it didn't play Doom :)

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    8. Re:Model 100 by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      The TRS-80 Model 200 always wins. I know, I just bought one, and it is a very impressive piece of hardware even today.
      I also have a Model 100.

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    9. Re:Model 100 by tqk · · Score: 2

      Competition doesn't just mean that alternatives exist. They also have to be popular enough to matter.

      "Popular" is overrated. Just because you're popular doesn't mean you matter. It doesn't mean "good." Windows and Apple are popular. So were Hitler and Stalin.

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    10. Re:Model 100 by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      Popular means that it can have some effect on the market, though. Good doesn't mean that you'll have any traction.

    11. Re:Model 100 by chrismcb · · Score: 1

      "Popular" is overrated. Just because you're popular doesn't mean you matter. It doesn't mean "good." Windows and Apple are popular. So were Hitler and Stalin.

      Yes, actually it does. If you are popular you matter. You are right, popular doesn't mean better, or good. But "matter" doesn't either.

    12. Re:Model 100 by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Competition doesn't just mean that alternatives exist. They also have to be popular enough to matter.

      "Popular" is overrated. Just because you're popular doesn't mean you matter. It doesn't mean "good." Windows and Apple are popular. So were Hitler and Stalin.

      Yes, but it is Hitler and Stalin you study for their impact on the world.

      "Good" is a moral judgement and irrelevant to presenting the facts. An historian can't just say "Hitler was evil, therefore I'm going to ignore him in my proposed history of the Third Reich".

      If computer or OS A sold more than B that is a fact, not a judgement on their relative merits.

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    13. Re:Model 100 by cusco · · Score: 1

      Care to elaborate? I've never worked on one.

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  3. Interesting, but inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In 1972, EMS Synthi AKS was a briefcase with a keyboard on one side -- it just happened to have a synthesizer on the other side, instead of a computer. The clamshell design is a pretty obvious model to follow.

    As my reward for this post, I would be happily accept a Synthi AKS. It seems fitting, you know?

    1. Re:Interesting, but inevitable by Yvan256 · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Interesting, but inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! Although a physical, working one was what I was thinking of.

    3. Re:Interesting, but inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prior art noobs.

      .http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Kythera-Dateien/image001.jpg

      Check out the netbook this dude is using. Shame ergonomics wasn't invented until a couple of millennia later, his posture is hopeless.

      http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Kythera.htm

  4. Miniturization of electronics by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As electronics become smaller, the only pieces that must remain large are the input and output devices, so the clamshell makes the best use of space. The iPad's input device isn't meant for serious input... a keystroke here or a mouse click there. Typing a real paragraph is a pain the fingers.

    Now what I am really looking forward to is when these computers can output directly to my retina :)

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    1. Re:Miniturization of electronics by undefinedreference · · Score: 1

      ...and input directly from my mind.

    2. Re:Miniturization of electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they could input directly from your mind, why bother without output via retina? That's an analog connection..

    3. Re:Miniturization of electronics by Antipater · · Score: 1

      Now what I am really looking forward to is when these computers can output directly to my retina :)

      ...and input directly from my mind.

      What? That tech's existed since the '60s!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD

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    4. Re:Miniturization of electronics by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Now what I am really looking forward to is when these computers can output directly to my retina :)

      I have mixed feeling about this. It will be incredibly convenient and cool. But I also am realistic enough to realize we don't live in a utopian Star Trek world. The thought of loosing my vision because of a glitch is scary enough. But even worse, can you imagine if someone hacks such a system and you are forced to look at goatse, and no matter what you do you cannot turn your head or close your eyes to make it go away.

    5. Re:Miniturization of electronics by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      As electronics become smaller, the only pieces that must remain large are the input and output devices, so the clamshell makes the best use of space.

      Disagree. A separate Bluetooth keyboard saves much more space. The table case can double as a stable, adaptable support as with the Xoom portfolio case. Pointer alternatives are: 1) use the touchscreen (and wave your arms a lot and get fingerprints on the screen) 2) separate bluetooth touchpad 3) bloat up the bluetooth keyboard with an integrated touchpad 4) bluetooth mouse 5) USB mouse 6) Thinkpad style eraser head control (somebody should do that). In any case, the combination is all a lot more compact, lightweight and flexible than a clamshell. From here on, clamshell devices will shrink to exactly one category: desktop replacement. And to tell the truth, a clamshell is a poor replacement for a desktop because of the compromised keyboard and screen position.

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    6. Re:Miniturization of electronics by lgw · · Score: 1

      But even worse, can you imagine if someone hacks such a system and you are forced to look at goatse, and no matter what you do you cannot turn your head or close your eyes to make it go away.

      Ahh, so you remember the early days of Slashdot.

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    7. Re:Miniturization of electronics by schroedingers_hat · · Score: 1

      6) Thinkpad style eraser head control (somebody should do that).

      The technical term is clit mouse. Nipple mouse is also acceptable.

    8. Re:Miniturization of electronics by BluBrick · · Score: 1

      6) Thinkpad style eraser head control (somebody should do that).

      The technical term is clit mouse. Nipple mouse is also acceptable.

      Well, that's kind ofenvironment-dependent.



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    9. Re:Miniturization of electronics by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Now what I am really looking forward to is when these computers can output directly to my retina :)

      Great, we'll be bombarded by advertising 24 hours a day instead of just when we're awake.

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  5. How can we forget by arcite · · Score: 1

    The great iBook G3 from 1999 AKA 'the toilet seat'.

    1. Re:How can we forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The great iBook G3 from 1999 AKA 'the toilet seat'.

      Exactly, which is evidence that Apple innovated the clamshell design into existence. The lawsuits will begin shortly. Thanks for the reminder, iCitizen!

    2. Re:How can we forget by cpu6502 · · Score: 2

      Wow it really does look like the two halves of a toilet seat:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook#iBook_G3_.28.22Clamshell.22.29

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    3. Re:How can we forget by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      The perfect gift for your author friend, to which you keep referring to as "the crap writer".

    4. Re:How can we forget by bbelt16ag · · Score: 1

      i want one when do the come out j/k?

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    5. Re:How can we forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real soon, I hope. I really have to go. BAD.

    6. Re:How can we forget by default+luser · · Score: 1

      I always thought it looked more like a Waffle Iron.

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    7. Re:How can we forget by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      We had one in our office in 1990 IIRC. It was a Compaq about the size of a lunchbox, with a detachable wired keyboard and an orange plasma display. No mouse, those were the DOS days.

      Ten years before that (thirty years ago) my mon (now long-retired) brought home an IBM clamshell. It was the size of a medium suitcase, weight a LOT, had a five inch green CRT and a 5 MB hard drive and two floppy drives.

      Now? The most powerful computer I have ever owned is my notebook, which weighs less than a DOS manual did.

  6. Read vs. Write by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they could input directly from your mind, why bother without output via retina? That's an analog connection..

    Presumably, reading minds is safer than writing minds.

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    1. Re:Read vs. Write by gman003 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Indeed.

      You know what happens when someone forgets to check the bounds of their array and starts writing data to another process's memory?

      Yeah. Imagine if that other process was your visual cortex.

    2. Re:Read vs. Write by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

      You know what happens when someone forgets to check the bounds of their array and starts writing data to another process's memory?

      Yeah. Imagine if that other process was your visual cortex.

      One word springs immediately to mind: goatse.

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    3. Re:Read vs. Write by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      Government propaganda agencies beg to differ.

    4. Re:Read vs. Write by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed.

      You know what happens when someone forgets to check the bounds of their array and starts writing data to another process's memory?

      Yeah. Imagine if that other process was your visual cortex.

      We used to have drugs for that.

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    5. Re:Read vs. Write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because a mind would be a terrible thing to waste.

    6. Re:Read vs. Write by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      Indeed, the mind is a terrible thing to taste.

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    7. Re:Read vs. Write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, ok. We have tested that the mind-writing interface works. Can you please stop sending that image into my visual cortex?!

    8. Re:Read vs. Write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always mount a scratch monkey...

    9. Re:Read vs. Write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What sprung (sprang?) to my mind was Ghost in the Shell anime series when they hack the cyborg eye implants of people. But whatever springs your sprang, I guess, heheheh!

    10. Re:Read vs. Write by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Larry Niven's book "The Ringworld Engineers" touches on this, in a way.

    11. Re:Read vs. Write by gman003 · · Score: 1

      "Used to"?

  7. Not my first portable PC by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first one I got to see and use was this. Most of the space was used-up by the 1541 floppy drive, which was a monster (as big as the computer itself):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64

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    1. Re:Not my first portable PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 1541 was probably the only disk drive ever to have a controller CPU that was slightly faster than the CPU of the main computer.

    2. Re:Not my first portable PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's even worse than that. Commodore made floppy drives called the 8250 and 8050 that had *two* 6502s running off two phases of a clock signal. So really, the drives had twice as much CPU power as the computer ... Bizarre. And then there's the 1581 with a 2MHz 6502.

    3. Re:Not my first portable PC by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      whoppie shit, its not a clamshell, which is what the story is about

      hey my first car was a ford!

  8. Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by eggstasy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "First commercially successful portable computer" according to the almighty wiki, launched in 1981.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

    1. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      "First commercially successful portable computer" according to the almighty wiki, launched in 1981.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

      "...the first portable computer with a briefcase-like case with a keyboard on one side of the interior, a flat screen on the other, and a hinge in the middle..."
      The osborne doesn't fit this definition. From the wikipedia pictures I don't see the hinge joining the keyboard to the rest of the system.

    2. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 1

      That's a luggable, not a clamshell.

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    3. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      There are some strange asymmetrical looking clams out there.

      Its got a hinge. Its got a screen on one side of the hinge, and a keyboard on the other.

    4. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by trampel · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be the IBM 5100?

    5. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by gorzek · · Score: 1

      Yep. I've got one of those, myself, but it's a Compaq "Ultra Portable." Similar design, although the screen is on the left side rather than in the middle.

    6. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope -- it weighed 55lbs. A number of /modern/ references call it "portable" but as one points out, "self-contained" is a better term.

      It weighs twice as much as the contemporary IBM Selectric typewriter, and trust me none of us ever called those portable either. Anything that requires a two-arm heft to get out to the car may be "portable" but is not "a portable".

      The Ossy OTHO was a deliberate portable. It has a sewing-machine-style case with a handle, so you could haul it with you through the airport, and then stuff it under the your airline seat.

      (Still have my Ossy. Interesting machine, often overrated, and yeah, nothing like the GRID which came out a year later. That thing was highly advanced. Ossy was merely, very briefly, clever and useful.)

    7. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by Osgeld · · Score: 0

      how the fuck did you miss the first half of the summary, were talking about clamshell computers, like modern laptops, not the first portable numbnuts

    8. Re:Bullshit. Osborne 1 was first. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      That's a luggable, not a clamshell.

      I loved luggables. Using one made you feel like you were a spy or special forces op, even when you were just typing people's expenses onto a Visicalc spreadsheet.

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  9. Hope technology makes new form factors possible by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see someone come up with a viable tablet/laptop hybrid. Either with swiveling screen that can be closed with the keyboard hidden or exposed. Maybe even a detachable full keyboard. I think it's been done before, but now that tablets are more successful, there's probably more of a market. Maybe gambling with laptop form factors is higher risk that with cell phones, but it would be great to see the same level of experimentation.

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    1. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you missed recent tech news?

      http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/microsoft-tablet-announced/

    2. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by NatasRevol · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Forget recent tech news, Asus has had a tablet with dockable full keyboard for more than a year:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer

      And swivel-screen touchscreens have been around forever. Dell has one:
      http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/dell-inspiron-duo-hybrid-windows-7-tablet-and-netbook-15-09-2010/
      As do HP:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Pavilion_TX1000_Series_Tablet_PC

    4. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      I had a dell tablet computer that was that. a laptop with a swivel screen. It was back in the magnetic stylus days around 2005-2006 instead of generic touchscreen.

      Oh. and your detachable full keyboard idea? Check out the Asus Transformer line. I am really looking forwards to the Transformer Infinity.

    5. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      I had a competitor to one of those and... no, it really didn't work out so well. Microsoft's Tablet PC initiative was nice on paper, but what it proved was that you couldn't just build the hardware, the apps had to take advantage of it, too. The tablet you linked to, for example, probably didn't have a touch screen. If it did, it didn't work very well because the UI just plain wasn't designed for it. You wouldn't, for example, resize windows with it.

      It was okay for what it was, but it doesn't do what the original poster is asking it to do. In my opinion, it really cannot be done until the software is built specifically for it.

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    6. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Have you missed recent tech news?

      http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/microsoft-tablet-announced/

      He mentioned the word 'viable'.

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    7. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I think you mean the 'resistive touchscreen' as opposed to the'capacitive touchscreen' that is common now. The resistive touchscreens need the stylus.

      I have an Android tablet that I bought about a year ago that has a resistive touchscreen and a stylus. I bought it to 'check out' android cheaply without needing to buy a cellphone. It's nowhere near as nice as my new capacitive touchscreen tablet. But it was cheap at the time.

    8. Re:Hope technology makes new form factors possible by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      Either with swiveling screen that can be closed with the keyboard hidden or exposed

      Several Windows TabletPCs were released in this form factor.

  10. Also first coveted computer by fermion · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Everyone who knew about a Grid wanted on. It was the first piece of computer industrial design I knew about. OTH it really wasn't a clamshell. it was a pop up screen, like the tandy 200, released two years later. I would say the Tandy 200 is the first useful affordable laptop computer. Both were integrated systems with custom OS. It is interesting to note that we are returning to metal enclosures for high end computers, or those that want to look like it.

    Unlike the Tandy, the grid computer only ran on line current. Compared to other portable computers the innovation in this machine was the flat display and internal expandability and storage. The expense of the screen was significant. Note that first Apple Mac was also a portable computer, but used a CRT.

    In any case most of the computers through the 80's were not laptops, and we did not get reliable clamshells until 1990's.

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  11. Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who does anything productive an iPad ends up buying a case and a bluetooth keyboard, ending up with exactly the same overall use case as a clamshell laptop. The only advantage with the iPad is that the keyboard is optional, but for those of us who do a lot of work that "optional" part is a hassle and thus I always end up just using my laptop anyway. Anyone who claims they can be productive for long periods of typing with the terrible iPad on-screen keyboard is probably lying.

    1. Re:Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Anyone who does anything productive an iPad ends up buying a case and a bluetooth keyboard, ending up with exactly the same overall use case as a clamshell laptop.

      Well.. not exactly. You're absolutely right that during the moments they're actually using a BT keyboard on the iPad that they are effectively replicating a clamshell design, but to even the most hardcore KB user, the iPad's independence of these peripherals still makes it very valuable. Laptops want to be able to do what the iPad does and as time goes by we're going to see more and more attempts at it.

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    2. Re:Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by undefinedreference · · Score: 1

      Not entirely. The touch interface on an iPad is distinctly superior to keyboard/trackpad/touchscreen/mouse interfaces on laptops. iOS is one of very few operating systems that makes a touchscreen a viable input method.

      Instead of a standard laptop or dedicated tablet (or the utter crap they sell as convertible tablets), I'd rather tote a reasonably-rugged convertible laptop/tablet with the same form factor as an ultrabook and an excellent touch screen interface. The only existing manufacturer that could do this well is a company that would never consider the potential of incorporating a physical keyboard into a tablet (nor allowing proper peripherals). Oh well.

    3. Re:Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by undefinedreference · · Score: 1

      I meant "on-screen keyboard" in the second sentence, not a physical keyboard.

    4. Re:Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      I have an ASUS transformer, it is in fact better than an iPad in every way

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    5. Re:Sorry, but iPad is *not* a challenger. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The touch interface on an iPad is distinctly superior to keyboard/trackpad/touchscreen/mouse interfaces on laptops.

      In your opinion.

      My wife's iPad is fine for looking at simple web pages, viewing facebook, playing simple Angry Birds or quiz games, and so on.

      But then, so is my TV. And I wouldn't want to use that exclusively instead of a proper computer.

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  12. And more then 20 years since the first tablet. by Kenja · · Score: 1

    Pen Computing was around in the mid 1980s and Microsoft Windows for Pens was released in 1991. Much like 3D movies are not new ( I have a VHS copy of the 1950s classic "Cat Women of the Moon in 3D" around someplace), the iPad is not a new idea even if it is nifty.

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    1. Re:And more then 20 years since the first tablet. by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      Windows for Pens was released in 1991

      Or:
      1991: Windows for Pen Is Released

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    2. Re:And more then 20 years since the first tablet. by catmistake · · Score: 1

      iPad is not a new idea

      The Springboard was new, as well as its penless touch-based interface design... nothing before iPhone was even remotely like it. Tablet computing wasn't new, but Apple's offering is still notable for these changes in interface design, changing the landscape of all tablet computing henceforth.

    3. Re:And more then 20 years since the first tablet. by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      It might not be 100% new, but that doesn't mean that a lot of new tech went into the implementation compared to when it was originally thought up.

  13. Best clamshell ever: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple eMate, bitches.

  14. Form follows function and requirements by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

    The form makes sense. For a portable computer usable for typing you've got a few requirements:

    • You have to have a keyboard and screen.
    • The screen needs to have a working position around 90-135 degrees "up" from the plane of the keyboard. That's so the keyboard can be flat (preferred typing position) while the screen's at roughly a right angle to the line of vision.
    • When not in use you want the surface of the screen covered in some way, to prevent scratching or damage.
    • Any connection between the keyboard and screen portions needs to be physically robust (not prone to breakage) and provide a good path for reliable electrical connections.

    When you combine the two, a hinged clamshell design's the simplest one that satisfies the requirements. The twistable ones for convertible tablets isn't as physically tough as a simple hinge, and the electrical connection's more complex with more chance of breakage or glitches. Single-piece tablets either lack a keyboard or have a poor angle on either the screen or the keyboard, plus they expose the entire screen to damage and have to be physically large to provide the surface area for both the screen and keyboard in a single housing. Wireless keyboards alleviate some of those problems, but now you've got two pieces to keep track of and keep recharged and potentially get lost.

    Given all that, I don't see the basic clamshell design fading any time soon. Certainly not as long as we need a portable device we can type significant amounts of text on.

  15. Takes me back. by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    Had a GRiDcase III plus once upon a time, bought new in 1985 for $8,150, cash --- should've bought stock instead. Oh well, easy come, easy go. It and the NeXT Cube I had later were the nicest machines I ever used.

    Other things to look forward to:

      - anniversary of the ThinkPad announcement --- everyone should get and read _ThinkPad: A Different Shade of Blue_ by Deborah A. Dell --- fascinating insight into the creation of the ThinkPad

      - anniversary of the NCR-3125 --- the first successful (for low values of ``success'') pen computer --- _Startup: A Silicon Valley Adventure_ by Jerry Kaplan covers this well.

    We seem to've missed the TRS-80 PC-1 25th anniversary though.... http://oldcomputers.net/trs80pc1.html

    William

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    1. Re:Takes me back. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had a GRiDcase III plus once upon a time, bought new in 1985 for $8,150, cash

      Congratulations on having a lot of money, I'm sure you're very clever and have a large penis too..

  16. *eyeroll* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    only with the advent of the iPad has it faced serious competition.

    Because the iPad was the first tablet device. -.-

    1. Re:*eyeroll* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one is claiming the iPad was the first tablet device. Jeez, all you got to do is read and understand

    2. Re:*eyeroll* by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      They're not claiming that. They are claiming that it is the first tablet device that is popular, and giving clamshells some competition.

  17. Even tablets benefit with keyboards. by ad454 · · Score: 1

    With the removable zagmate bluetooth keyboard, iWorks office suite, omnigraffle, iOS mail + calendar + contacts, kindle reader for reading pdf's, and cdyia mobile terminal + openssh, my iPad3 has become a serious and portable work device. (The retina display is really beneficial to me.)

    My biggest issue with the iPod is that the gcc tool chain is no longer available for native development with ios 5.*, as was possible in ios 4.*. :-(

    1. Re:Even tablets benefit with keyboards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kindle reader for reading pdf's

      Nothing compares to GoodReader

  18. Didn't get it. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    In 1989 we looked into an SBIR for the military and it would run on a ruggedized Toshiba, which was like $10,000. Like a Compaq but you could tumble it around on the ground.

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    1. Re:Didn't get it. by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Was that the LCU (AN/GYK-37)?

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    2. Re:Didn't get it. by Moheeheeko · · Score: 2

      You could tumble a Compaq and have it work just like it did beforehand as well.

  19. Prefer the TRS-80 Model 100 by tekrat · · Score: 1

    How many Grid Compasses are still in use today? The TRS-80 Model 100 is a remarkably robust design that continues to be the preferred choice for writers "in the field" where access to electricity is limited -- a keyboard, an LCD screen, a full-travel keyboard, and it can run for months on 4 AA batteries -- only the Alphasmarts outclassed it for pure writing enjoyment and durability.

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    1. Re:Prefer the TRS-80 Model 100 by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      Many, many years ago, I worked on an embedded single board system for monitoring traffic signals. We used the Model 100 to do site visits to update firmware/run diagnostics etc. I've moved on, as have the monitoring systems - but the service guys there are still using the same Model 100s to do the same job. It's proven to be a remarkably reliable machine.

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    2. Re:Prefer the TRS-80 Model 100 by phaggood · · Score: 1

      It should be fairly straight-forward enough to put a Raspberry Pi and an 80x20 LCD plus keyboard into a small case w/ keyboard, touchpad and battery approximating the form of a Model 100 but speedier and with LOADS more storage space.

    3. Re:Prefer the TRS-80 Model 100 by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      But that's a shame. I hope the Model 100 wasn't working when it was gutted. That's probably the only way to kill one.

      It isn't that impressive to gut a Model 100 and just use it's keyboard. The resultant machine still needs to be connected to a big display the way that one is done.

  20. Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (..) so the clamshell makes the best use of space.

    Considering today's power/heat constraints, I find the usual "CPU/GPU under keyboard" configuration illogical. Why not a CPU / GPU / RAM board behind the screen, with a large/thin (passive, if possible) cooling plate at the rear? Or draw air in near the hinges, let air out near the top of the screen (again, passive if possible). Those 2 cooling methods wouldn't bite each other... Then just battery, keyboard, hard disk and peripherals like DVD drive (if fitted) under the keyboard. A few serial connections like USB / SATA + power between the two halves. Likely would leave more space such that a larger battery is possible.

    Much better than packing heat-producing CPU/GPU right next to a heat-sensitive battery (+ a tiny blower to pull that heat out).

    1. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      What you're describing is basically an iPad but attached to a keyboard, drive, etc. As Bugs Bunny would say, "I like it."

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    2. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by Hamsterdan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Weight distribution. If the lid is heavier than the base, it's too easy to have the laptop do a backwards flip. Besides, it would add thickness to the machine (but allow for a bigger battery)

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    3. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by NalosLayor · · Score: 1

      There's this pesky thing called physics that likes to get in the way: Namely, your device will be topheavy to the point of being unwieldy for non table use. The brilliance of the top containing only the screen is that it makes the thing balanced. I suppose you could put some additional stuff in the clamshell top. Ideally, the SSD, since it is a "low bandwidth" device (compared to a GPU or RAM) and requires only a few traces to be added to the cable running between the halves.

    4. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      In other words, you want an Asus Transformer?

      (they will come in x86 and in larger sizes up to 14" later this year, for Win8)

    5. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Considering today's power/heat constraints, I find the usual "CPU/GPU under keyboard" configuration illogical. Why not a CPU / GPU / RAM board behind the screen, with a large/thin (passive, if possible) cooling plate at the rear?

      Because it's back-heavy and hard to balance. You see, engineers do think about these things when they design hardware.

    6. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by s73v3r · · Score: 1

      What would be the effects of having such a heat generating part right behind the display, though?

    7. Re:Best use of space in clamshell? NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, I've got a Transformer Pad myself, and it's so far ahead of a netbook (notice I didn't say a laptop) or a tablet, it just isn't funny. Fans? What's 'fans'?

  21. What ever happened to Clio? by dacut · · Score: 1

    My main beef with the clamshell design is it's difficult to use from your average economy seat on an airplane. If you have the keyboard at a comfortable typing distance, the screen has to tilt forward to not hit the seat in front of you. Getting it to a proper angle means pulling the keyboard uncomfortably close to your body.

    The Vadem Clio had an interesting design where the screen was mounted in the middle on arms that attached to the back. Thus, it could hover over the keyboard and still tilt back. I never got a chance to see or use one, but I had hopes this design would alleviate the airplane seat problem. Alas, it seems to have disappeared from the market, and the patents for this design are either not being licensed out or nobody wants to take this risk.

  22. Transformer: tablets in disguise by tepples · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see someone come up with a viable tablet/laptop hybrid. Either with swiveling screen that can be closed with the keyboard hidden or exposed. Maybe even a detachable full keyboard.

    You must have missed every Slashdot story about the "Transformer" tablets by ASUS, which is designed to plug into a keyboard/battery unit that looks like the bottom half of a laptop.

  23. Dvorak calls the type a "half-clamshell" by michaelmalak · · Score: 1

    Dvorak called a similar-looking 1982 computer a "half-clamshell". Also, until just now, I had always assumed that the term "clamshell" was coined in Whoopi Goldberg's 1986 movie but a search in New York Times archives for "clamshell AND computer" turned up hits from 1983. So I can't blast Time Magazine for an anachronism.

  24. OP, Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you just seriously claim that 30 years of notebooks are in competition with a fucking tablet?

    1. Re:OP, Seriously? by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

      I know, right. By show of hands - who here no longer owns a PC and uses a keyboardless tablet for everything? Those of you using Bluetooth keyboards on your tablet - put your hands down, you're just lying to yourself for the sake of being with the hip crowd.

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  25. 1101 (base 2) = 13 (base 10) by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 1

    Any bets some marketing droid went to engineering and asked for some string of ones and zeroes that looked compuerish? And some smart-a$$ engineer came back with 1101 knowing it was 13 and also knowing that the marketing droid would never figure that out?

    Cheers,
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  26. Keyboard placement by alispguru · · Score: 1

    Was Apple really the first to place the keys at the top of the open clamshell, and the pointing device on the lower half under your thumbs? I used a couple of PC notebooks before getting access to a Powerbook, and remember thinking "now this makes *&^%$#@! sense".

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    1. Re:Keyboard placement by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Was Apple really the first to place the keys at the top of the open clamshell, and the pointing device on the lower half under your thumbs?

      Yes, it is known. Subsequently, every other laptop manufacturer came up with and utilized this design... all on their own, apparently.

    2. Re:Keyboard placement by Osgeld · · Score: 3, Interesting

      no I have a dec laptop with a trackball in the now normal position, Its date of manufacture is 1990 which is the same year as the original Macintosh portable started coming with a backlight, and a year before the first powerbook. The original portable in 89-90 gave you a reflective screen (think gameboy) a full sized keyboard, a full sized trackball on the right of the keyboard, and ran off of lead acid batteries. It was a old clunky luggable about 6 years too late.

      The first powerbook came out in 91 and it came with the trackball built in, which makes since as you HAVE to have a mouse with a mac. My DEC clips onto the front with pogo pins that make the contact as an option. So while the powerbook was the first one with a built in pointing device, PC makers have been putting the trackball under the keyboard for years as an option

  27. Re: by davide+marney · · Score: 2

    The very first time I saw an on-screen keyboard, I knew it would never be more than a low-throughput device. I rooted for other screen-based input solutions, but Apple never let them be used as the default interface. Some of them actually worked quite well: I was able to get to 50wpm using the IBM SHARK input method with an afternoon's practice.

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  28. I had a Grid Compass, nice for its day. by tkrotchko · · Score: 1

    I used it for half a year, my company got me one to go around the country and do training on a new system we developed. It was connected to an overhead projector converter, where I could show the text on a projected screen.

    For its day, it was a wonderful computer, it was tough, and it wowed people.

    It was, however, very heavy for its size, and despite its look, it had no battery. It always had to be plugged in.

    The display was far more usable than anything else at the time, it was extremely sharp, but as I recall, it was limited to text.

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  29. The Poqet PC by davide+marney · · Score: 1

    For three years, I used a Poqet PC running Forefront's Framework Office Suite. A PC you could fit into a coat pocket. Ran for a full week on 2 AA batteries. Had the best outliner I've ever used, even to this day. A fabulously productive platform.

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  30. The 30k laptop by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Back in the day we made an avionics tester with a Grid laptop controlling it. Suckers sold like hotcakes. About 6 months later a sales droid did a follow up sales visit and found all the avionics testers in a corner. Seems the bigwigs all wanted laptops, but they weren't allowed to buy them. 30k avionics testers, on the other hand....

    / remind me again why the guv'mint spends so much?

  31. Dvorak half right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dvorak called a similar-looking 1982 computer a "half-clamshell".

    Wait, so Dvorak was actually half right about something?!

    That must have been the high point of his career.

  32. Zenith Z 181 - still the best keyboard on a laptop by knarf · · Score: 1

    My first laptop was a Zenith Z-181 which I got for cheap (unlike this one, what are they thinking...) at one of those computer dump markets which used to be held quite often back then. The thing still works, but it is currently in storage for lack of usable floppies (it has two 720K 3.5" 'flip-up' drives), time and interest. Its dark-blue-on-light-blue screen (or the other way around if that was preferred) felt strangely familiar, coming from a Commodore 64. Even though it has been surpassed in almost every sense by later portable machines, I have yet to use a laptop with a better keyboard. And yes, that does include all those Thinkpads which I've acquired over the years.

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  33. Must be why ASUS is dominating the iPad by Brannon · · Score: 2

    in the marketplace. Apple is doomed.

    1. Re:Must be why ASUS is dominating the iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I bought a Transformer Pad last week, so that's one more hit for Asus anyway. My partner has an iPad for which I bought her a Bluetooth keyboard thingy. In my view the Transformer shits all over that arrangement in every way possible, but others usage may vary.

  34. Cultists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, it is known.

    No it's not known. It's believed, in spite of its not actually being true.

    Apple drones are like Christians. They prefer to believe in fables rather than in reality, because reality isn't nearly so soothing and ego-stroking.

    But I'm sure you'll scurry back to your local cult outreach branch and soon be feeling the love again.

    1. Re:Cultists by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is known.

      No it's not known. It's believed, in spite of its not actually being true.

      Apple drones are like Christians. They prefer to believe in fables rather than in reality, because reality isn't nearly so soothing and ego-stroking.

      But I'm sure you'll scurry back to your local cult outreach branch and soon be feeling the love again.

      You are -flat- wrong. Apple was the first to have this laptop design, and advertised the new idea when they originally released the PowerBook 100, 140 and 170. Apple isn't always first... usually they pick up on a trend and make it better. But in this case, Apple indeed was the first with the wrist-rest laptop design. There were no laptops with this design prior to the PowerBook 100, 140 & 170 released in October of 1991.

    2. Re:Cultists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Cultists by catmistake · · Score: 1

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2982693&cid=40667911 (Exactly one post up from yours in response to the very same thread question).

      http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/physical-object/digital_equipment_corporation_dec/102624005.lg.jpg

      But thanks for playing.

      Allow me to retort and prove you a liar and the venerable slashdot post you cite as mistaken. I can't help but notice there is no actual reference to a DEC model number that could be checked... but I did notice there is an "Intel Inside" sticker on the laptop in the picture. Observe the powers of the mighty Google search and the humblest of internet research (my emphasis):

      In 1991 Carter launched the Intel Inside® coop marketing program. The heart of the program was an incentive-based cooperative advertising program. Intel would create a co-op fund where it would take a percentage of the purchase price of processors and put it in a pool for advertising funds. Available to all computer makers, it offered to cooperatively share advertising costs for PC print ads that included the Intel logo. The benefits were clear. Adding the Intel logo not only made the OEM's advertising dollar stretch farther, but it also conveyed an assurance that their systems were powered by the latest technology. The program launched in July 1991. By the end of that year, 300 PC OEMs had signed on to support the program.

      Source: 11th paragraph down

      The PowerBook was launched in October of 1991. I can't see what model laptop that is, nor do you or the cited slashdot poster offer this guarded information. In the late summar of 1991, Intel was scrambling to get their now famous (or infamous) "Intel Inside" campaign off the ground and find computer manufacturers to adopt the campaign and use the sticker. Considering DEC and Intel were invoved in a bitter patent dispute concerining the chips until it was finally settled in 1997, I suspect that the DEC laptop pictured was not released within the three months between July and October of 1991. Suffice to say, it is enough to prove the OP was mistaken... that computer could not have been released in 1990.

      Apple indeed was the originator of this wrist-rest laptop design, and the design was very rapidly duplicated by all manufacturers of laptops. It is not cult, attempt at deception or self-delusion. It is a verifiable fact.

      Thanks for playing.

  35. What about the profile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing I have always identified with the PowerBook is the elimination of the protrusion behind the screen hinge that earlier machines had to accommodate the size of the mainboard and battery. The PowerBook is the first portable I know of that had the distinctive "L" shape when viewed in profile - all machines before it looked like more of an inverted "T".

    Am I wrong or was Apple really the first one to do this?

  36. Duh, that's the point by billstewart · · Score: 1

    The original article didn't say that no other form factors have been used, or that the clamshell was the first format. (And the IBM 5150 (IIRC) that I was using in 1978-1979 was also portable, though you usually did the porting on a rolling cart.)

    It said that the Clamshell format won, and everything else uses that format these days. Except, of course, for the Palm Pilot, Blackberry, iPhone, and iPad, which also are portable computers that won the Format Wars. (Yes, the Newton used that format before the Palm Pilot, but didn't win, and there were lots of tablet computers before the iPad, but they all choked. And there were other screen+keyboard handhelds before and after the Crackberry, but it was one of the most successful, though the iPhone has mostly killed it.)

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  37. Yay! Of course the 5100 was portable! by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Yes, you usually ported it on a cart, but you could easily move it from your lab to your office, or your office to the lecture hall, or to the computer room where your grad students could use it, and you didn't have to disassemble/reassemble it the way you did with a PDP-11 or mainframe.

    And this meant that when I was taking a number-crunching course in grad school, and our professor didn't want us to waste valuable mainframe time doing graphics with computers when we could learn more doing them by hand, I could learn more trying lots of different time series on the 5100 and print them out on the little thermal printer, and _then_ take the ones that got the results I wanted and graph them by hand :-) If the 5100 hadn't been portable, I wouldn't have had access to it except during limited hours. (And no, I didn't walk uphill both ways in the snow to the computer center - I went to grad school in California. Uphill both ways in the snow was undergrad.)

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  38. iPad cover/stand with keyboard does that. by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Yes, there are other approaches to it, but it's hard to beat the vinyl iPad cover/stand/keyboard things. Of course, it iPads had the decency to provide USB ports on the side, you could also plug a better keyboard into them when you wanted, without messing with non-standard docking cable adapters.

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  39. Palm Pilot, iPod, iPhone, iPad vs. Clamshells by billstewart · · Score: 1

    The article asserts that the clamshell is the portable computer format that "won". It certainly became popular (especially compared to the lunchbox shape), but the Palm Pilot made its format dominant for a few years, until the iPhone killed it. And the iPod is a more specialized computer, although the iPhone has mostly killed it. And the iPhone is very definitely a portable computer (telephony's only one of many apps on it), though you could argue that it's essentially the same format as the Palm Pilot, just nicer and without the non-functional flip-cover. And the iPad's making an actual serious dent in laptop sales.

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  40. Historical perhaps - stable certainly not by Wizardess · · Score: 0

    I remember the Grid Compass computer complete with its HPIB connected hard drive all too well. It had tremendous potential and crashed more often than AmigaDOS 1.0. On top of that of the 6 computers our group of 4 developers had we barely managed to keep one working machine per person on the floor at any given time. But hooboy our military customer loved their sexy look.

    {^_^}

  41. Actually, the Athena I was first by lagunastarman · · Score: 1

    The Athena I was actually the first clamshell battery powered portable computer. It was also the first portable computer to use SSD. It ran CP/M (loaded from ROM). When Toshiba and Tandy (which bought Grid) got into a patent dispute, Townsend and Townsend did an intellectual property search to determine that the Athena I first used the clamshell approach and DID NOT PATENT IT. This put the design in the public domain. Hence, for 30 years every manufacturer has used this design royalty free - much to the disappointment of at least one of the two designers of the display-covers-keyboard approach. There is quite a back story to all of this - and one of the inventors is currently reaching out to the media to see who wants to cover this history of what to do and what not to do in making a truly revolutionary invention - the laptop computer.