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Modest Proposal For Stopping Hackers: Get Them Girlfriends
kierny writes "Hackers/crackers who get arrested are typically male and young adults — if not minors. Why is that? According to research by online psychology expert Grainne Kirwan, it's because the typical hacker 'ages out' once they get a girlfriend, job, kids, and other responsibilities that make it difficult to maintain their hacking/cracking/hacktivist lifecycle. Could that finding offer a way to help keep more young hacking enthusiasts out of jail?"
This is as retarded as the last story. Timothy must be taking his stupid pills today.
Solve problems? Ha! The Girlfriend (especially when upgraded to The Wife) creates tons MORE problems which is why males no longer have time for more fun activities like gaming and hacking. Too busy installing cabinets or working to pay off the bills.
So far I have yet to meet any happily married males (or females for that matter). Even the ones who CLAIM to be happy fill their conversations with backstabbing comments about their spouse. Who needs that?
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That's right... and when it comes to girl hackers, simply unstoppable :).
If we want more female hackers in the future, then we shouldn't present our ideas in a way that makes it seem like we assume all hackers in the future will be male. Also, I know a lot of openly gay hackers, so I find the title of the article dumb for that reason as well.
You know how hard it is to find a girl who likes guys who are overweight, work on computers, have an affinity for Cheetos, Mountain Dew, and avoiding showers?
Back in the early days, hackers were young hobbyists.
The people who are most dangerous now are simply criminals who've learned to operate computers.
Teenage and young adult hacking is part of the learning process and should be encouraged as part of the growth process. Most of those people will go on to futures in computer science.
The criminals will not.
Futurist Traditionalism
or..could you be attracting maladjusted people as friends?
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The problem with having a basic income as in your link is that you're confusing 2 issues: the problems in the western world and the problems in the underdeveloped African world.
How many people in the western world could honestly say they don't make more than $13 a month? My guess is no one with the exception of children who are too young to have a job. How many people in the western world truly don't have a chance to go to school and learn basic skills. Of course not everyone can get into and afford Harvard, Yale and MIT, but elementary school? Of course they can (and do) go there.
In the US, you can get a "guaranteed" income when you are poor by having kids. As a result, you have many low income families with several kids that they can't really afford, but the more kids they have the more money mom has to spend on booze.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
What? My fellow coworkers/engineers? They ALL tell me tales about the "stupid thing" their husbands or wives did last weekend or last month. They claim to be happily married, but certainly don't sound it.
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I've been married to my wife for 22 years. I am very happy.
I suggest living with someone for a year, then if you get married don't have kids for about 7 years.
Any time during that period you find your self excessively complaining about your spouse,I recommend that you calmly end the relationship. You aren't happy, and you aren't doing anyone any favors by being miserable.
I hate the stupid pop culture idea that marriage is supposed to be misery and pain. IT's a crock. I blame dumb ass shows like "Everyone loves Raymond", "Home improvement", etc...
Why do any of those men stay with the horribly screeching wives?
And why do those women stay with horribly insensitive, and often abusive, men?
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Are they stupid thing as in funny anecdotes, or stupid things as in making people angry?
I do the occasional stupid thing, and I'm sure my wife tells people about them. But no different then my friends telling the stores of the time my BBQ burst into flames.
I know a lot of happily married men. The trick? marry someone you can do thing with without becoming annoyed.
Of course, there are people who aren't happy, but they need to get out of the relationship. Unless kids are involved. The they need to suck it up* and create a happy and stable home life.
* Meaning general annoyances. Clearly if abuse is going on, they need to get themselves and their kids out of that situation.
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The article is full of prejudice, misinformation and bullshit. First of all, the hackers causing real damage aren't your stereotypical basement dwellers: most of them are either part of a criminal organisation or a state agency. The young kiddies who do it for the lulz, as a challenge or to support an ideology are only the visible tip of a huge iceberg, as they are the ones who are either too careless to cover their trails or directly announce their deeds. Most of the time they cause little harm, and sometimes can even be valuable when pointing out vulnerabilities which could have lead to the loss of sensitive data in the hands of a more mischievous hacker. If you want to stop them from growing up to be blackhats, the most important thing would be legislation that doesn't send them to jail for pointing out that a door is open. If you don't want them to become outcasts, don't cast them out. Provide them with ways to use their skills within the boundaries of the law. Sending a shoplifting kid to jail is a sure way to turn him into a robber, and the iron fist approach will not work any better on adolescent hackers.
If you're constantly tiptoeing around then you're with the wrong person. I've been married for many years and am quite happy. Am I happy 100% of the time? No, but that's unreasonable to expect. I would say I'm happy 90% of the time though and I do no tiptoeing. My wife and I enjoy playing the same video games (WoW, galaga, mario bros, etc), eating mostly the same food, and find the same type of humor funny. We have a few different interests as well (she likes playing music and I enjoy programming for example) and when we want to do something the other doesn't we go do what we want. When we have an issue with each other we address it and move on. I think a big problem with a lot of couples is lack of communication and being honest about their feelings with each other. If more couples would actually address their issues like adults instead of keeping them inside more relationships would work out. If you can't openly talk to your partner about how you feel then the relationship was doomed from the start.
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You're right about needs, but money is not a need, because it's an abstract concept. Quality of living is a need. The concept of poverty, in a developed world, is a very contrived and nonsensical artifact of capitalism. We have enough resources to feed, house, clothe and entertain the whole world several times over, yet our societal systems create false scarcity as the hypothetical carrot-on-a-stick to keep people enslaved and working.
It doesn't matter how much money is being thrown around, or how big the numbers grow, if someone isn't pulling their weight, they will cause a shortage somewhere else. The illusion of money only takes our eyes off the real issue of distributing resources. After all, why associate with millions of other people if we only seek to break them down and take what's theirs ? Building, not pillaging, should be the goal of any society. Wealth means nothing if you spend every waking moment in misery and frustration.
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Economic understanding fail. A $50k minimum wage will just end up with $50k having the same buying power that $8 an hour has today. Currency only has value determined by scarcity and trust, even if you outlaw the rich earning more than $70k, you will still devalue the currency and luxuries will be exchanged directly instead of with the state currency as a pathway.
No, you fail to understand. The US GDP is ~$15 trillion, and there are ~100m working adults. That's $150k each. If you set the minimum wage to $50k, the wealthier people will still make 4-5 times as much as the poor, rather than the 100x to 1000x more that they make now. Now, you could argue that there would be a productivity drop, and you'd probably be right, but my point here isn't about exact figures, but rather that we live in a society that, if equitable, could provide a pretty good standard of living to all, rather than a shitty standard of living for most and a ridiculous standard for a select lucky few.
The problem is that most people who are happily married aren't very vocal about it. BUT, those that aren't happy, or are divorced, are VERY vocal.
For example: I have been happily married for 5 years now, and we dated for 5 before that step. I get my wife flowers every week, because she puts up with me peeing on the toilet seat, breaking things to see how they work, and generally bitching when I've had a bad day.
No one knows. Well, I've only told you folks about it - my family knows, but that's because they come over to my house.
My supervisor has been divorced for nine years, and complains every day. Let me repeat - N...I...N...E......Y...E...A...R...S... and still complains every day. Who is the better model? Me. Who do people know more about? Her.
It's simple logic - more exposure = more proof, right?
They ALL tell me tales about the "stupid thing" their husbands or wives did last weekend or last month. They claim to be happily married, but certainly don't sound it.
Think for a moment about what type of story is more interesting to tell.
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I suggest living with someone for a year, then if you get married don't have kids for about 7 years.
By which time she's infertile.
Intelligence oriented towards abstract thinking, objects, and machines repels women like a meeting of the local Linux User's Group or SABR (Society of American Baseball Research). Women find intelligence un-leavened with machismo, narcissism, mild sociopathy (or high), the "dark triad" revolting. Since it correlates nicely with lower testosterone and social dominance.
We are prisoners of our DNA and genetic inheritance. Primates don't have money, or mansions, or possessions. Pretty much all primates mate in the fashion that the most dominant male secures all the females. Until he's killed off by a contender or predators, disease, etc. That is the primal urge of pretty much all women, unless moderated by social environments in turn responding to resource scarcity: not enough food, water, shelter, clothing, etc requiring a nuclear family and "settling" for guys unsexy but who make serious weapons. More J. Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein, than your sexy dancer and aspiring rapper.
To get these guys girlfriends, when the prospective girlfriends will NEVER BE HOTTER AND DEMAND MORE MALE INTEREST (ages 15-22, basically, and yes that's a product of our DNA -- primates don't wait until fertility is almost gone to mate) is impossible. There is no social structure steering them into that, and away from say Levi Johnston or Kevin Federline. The boys are at the nadir of their sexual value (as they age, achieve power and dominance, the get enough to find the last aging bitter "settling" fertility window of the formerly hot). The girls, the peak.
That is a fundamental mis-match in sexual value in the marketplace. Never going to happen.
Heck the guys seek local hacking dominance just to raise their peer value and thus (pathetically) hoping to raise their sex value. Which does not happen, only by sheer primate-driven local social dominance over others (cruelty unpunished, aggressiveness, machiavellianism, narcissim, sarcasm unpunished, other dominance displays) can men be attractive to women. Even if the guys worked out, bathed, ate right, and dressed well their inner lack of social dominance around others (pushing people around SUCCESSFULLY and intimidating others is the surest way to draw hot teen girls) dooms them to failure.
Indeed the failure of boys to gain higher sexual value ("I hacked Wal-Mart! And all girls still avoid me!") guarantees that they will double-down on efforts to go even bigger and more disruptive, as the ability to push people around is simply not in them (too high IQ, too oriented towards abstract systems) any more than they can dunk like LeBron James (or James can use a spreadsheet or write a PERL script).
I suppose you could match the boys with over-aged MILFs with perhaps 1% of their former hotness, but that's a raw deal compared to the top 10% Alphas hogging about 80% of the actually attractive aged peers. And like most raw deals generates pushback action by the buyers.
After what you describe Sony as:
put out almost nothing but shitty, proprietary crap for over a decade
music CDs install rootkits on computers
sue people who have committed no crime just to shut them up
You still trust the quality of girlfriend(s) that Sony might get for you?
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
...has anyone asked the *girls* what they think of this idea?
I dunno, just asking.