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Ask Slashdot - Careers In Computer Science That Keep You Physically Active?

First time accepted submitter ozzyoli writes "I love computer science (IT not so much) but I despise the thought of being stuck behind a desk for the rest of my life. Are there any career paths that would suit a computer scientist who likes to be physically active and on his feet a lot?"

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  1. I'm plenty active.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I keep my computer running 24 hours a day.

    1. Re:I'm plenty active.... by c0lo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I keep my computer running 24 hours a day.

      Hmmm... be more careful, please... I thought I've just seen a mote of dust vanishing from my vision in a little flash!

      (if you think hitting a small link takes a long time, you are free to Google)

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    2. Re:I'm plenty active.... by rullywowr · · Score: 5, Funny
      Computer Science careers already have plenty physical activity...

      For example:

      Jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle, throwing your colleagues under the bus, and knifing your boss in the back.

  2. geek squad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Work for the geek squad and instead of the vw bug jog to the clients house :)

    1. Re:geek squad by somarilnos · · Score: 2

      They asked for something in computer science, though. Geek Squad involves very little computer or science.

    2. Re:geek squad by CubicleZombie · · Score: 2

      I don't see where you're going to find a "Computer-Science-not-IT" job anywhere, desk or not. I work for one of the largest software companies in the world and there isn't anything here that's much more computer-sciencey than Geek Squad.

      To the article submitter: Your cubicle awaits. Get used to it.

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  3. Microsoft by qbast · · Score: 5, Funny

    Work for Microsoft and advance up to CEO position. Then throwing chairs will be one of your more important job responsibilities.

  4. work time is not 24h/day. by acidfast7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bicycle commuting to work can burn 400-700 kcal/day.

    I have a colleague that refuses to schedule a meeting between 11a-noon and he runs a 10k and showers during that time.

    After work hobbies can be useful too, you may even meet other people also.

    You don't need to be "on your feet" at work ... just at some point during the day.

    1. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      >> You don't need to be "on your feet" at work ... just at some point during the day.

      Actually, that's not correct in the general health risk sense. Long sitting hours are a major health risk regardless of other exercise. Exercise definitely helps, but only independently.

      "During 621 695 person-years of follow-up (mean follow-up, 2.8 years), 5405 deaths were registered. All-cause mortality hazard ratios were 1.02 (95% CI, 0.95-1.09), 1.15 (1.06-1.25), and 1.40 (1.27-1.55) for 4 to less than 8, 8 to less than 11, and 11 or more h/d of sitting, respectively, compared with less than 4 h/d, adjusting for physical activity and other confounders. The population-attributable fraction for sitting was 6.9%. The association between sitting and all-cause mortality appeared consistent across the sexes, age groups, body mass index categories, and physical activity levels and across healthy participants compared with participants with preexisting cardiovascular disease or diabetes mellitus."
      http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1108810

      The post is a great question (would love an 'active' coding job). I used to ask my co-workers whether they were interested in having meetings while walking and couple of my very best meetings were on bike rides. However, we certainly weren't coding, just design discussions and strategy. Cycling new routes seemed to have remarkable effects while brainstorming though. Would love to see the riot if I swapped dev team workstations with treadmill powered versions :) How about an IDE something like a combination of Eclipse with Wii-Fit or Dance Nation? Maybe augmented HMDs & neural interfaces will make somethings easier too. Any other more accessible and direct answers much appreciated!

    2. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      Bicycle commuting to work can burn 400-700 kcal/day.

      Way more than that. I currently commute ~23k one-way, with a lot of uphill. My Polar bike computer says about 1300 kcal/day

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    3. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Way more than that. I currently commute ~23k one-way

      I find I can't do that. I tried once and was the fittest I've ever been. It was great. I looked great, I felt great, I would eat huge, hearty meals 3 times per day and I was happy. And I would happily sit at my desk zoned out. I find after a tipping point, too much energy goes into the exercise and productivity starts to drop too much.

      That seems to hit most people sooner or later, but you may be one of the lucky ones where it hits later rather than earlier.

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    4. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      Actually, I have found Polar gear to be very tight-fisted when it comes to calorie counting. Other bike computers or sports applications show a much higher value for the same route (more than 2000 kcal for the roundtrip).

      Also MTB here, but modified for commuting (slick tyres, fenders, hub dynamo, lights and a heavy lock). Then again I weigh 100 kg, so cycling uphill burns energy like there's no tomorrow.

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    5. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      The productivity does drop a bit indeed, but not too much. Maybe the meals were too large? I don't eat much, since I am on a weight loss program (lost 55 kg already) and I stay quite sharp.

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    6. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by acidfast7 · · Score: 4, Informative

      to be honest, if you weight100kg, it's probably quite accurate. I weigh roughly 72-75kg, which accounts for the difference.

    7. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by acidfast7 · · Score: 3, Informative

      it's not funny, the amount of kcal burned is proportional to the weight of the cyclist (assuming that the cyclist weight >>> bike weight). of course, i'll burn less calories when i'm moving 25kg less weight (and good "kcal burnt" calculators take this into account.)

    8. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by zerobeat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure, its 1300 kcal/day when you are lucky enough to have to ride uphill, both to and from work. Some of us aren't so lucky.

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    9. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by AngryDeuce · · Score: 2

      I've wanted to give this a go for a while now, just can't find the time to implement it.

      Still, looks awesome.

    10. Re:work time is not 24h/day. by chrb · · Score: 2

      Most likely lack of exercise to compensate for sitting most of the day contributed to the health risks.

      The research has shown that sitting is bad for you regardless of other factors like weight, or whether or not you exercise regularly.

      Why Prolonged Sitting Is Bad for Your Health: "adults who sat for 11 hours or more a day had a 40% increased risk of dying in the next three years than those who sat for less than four hours a day. Even after taking into account physical activity, weight and health status, researchers found that the unsettling association held."

      Scientists' latest depressing find: sitting down is really bad for your health: "sitting for more than three hours per day cuts about two years off your life expectancy. They added that watching more than two hours of TV per day will cut your life expectancy down another year or so. An even bleaker discovery? Moderate exercise doesn't seem to offset the effects of this excessive sitting either."

  5. Standing desk by greg_barton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You want to stay on your feet? Use a standing desk. I've had one for the past year and a half and it is awesome.

  6. Embedded systems engineer by oldhack · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You end up climbing/crawling into some weird-ass places with backpacks.

    Oh, my bad. Comp-sci, the wimpy nerds. Sorry, you have to be a real engineer to do this sorta things.

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  7. Make the time by FBeans · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I woke up this morning, did 80 press-ups and 80 situps (the first time I've done this in years and years) and later I will go for a 5k run. Don't change career, just make a little time for exercise. You may be surprised how energetic and awake you feel in the morning after some light exercise. Keep your body healthy and the mind will follow!

  8. Teledildonics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Write and then test the software (or hardware) for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics

  9. Field Engineers & Specialists by kolbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    While positions like these are not common, there are several fields out there that require "field" engineers that I can think of:

    Power - For seven years I fielded calls for the Power Industry where 60% of my time was spent on the road or in the air traveling to remote locales around the world to fix the problems the "Homer Simpsons" of the power industry had created. Without internet I used just my know-how of various hardware types, operating systems such as AIX, Solaris & Windows and troubleshooting experience to solve problems. It was fun to travel and a daily challenge to solve what ever issue it might be, but I ultimately gave it up to have a family and be closer to home. The only thing that really sucked however is the remaining 30% of time I had in an office was usually spent in front of a desk writing ANSI, ISO, NEMA and OSHA compliant documentation about my journey's.

    Networking Specialist - These people design, install, maintain and troubleshoot computer networks for all whom will employ them to do such. Some companies specialize in contracting guys with CCIE's etc out to companies who do not want to pay to have one full time. They generally travel on short notice and are prone to 60% or greater travel time.

    Deployment Specialist - These people are usually certified in some specific product within the company they work for and make a job out of traveling around to "deploy" said product. Everyone from A to Z in Software and OEM Hardware employs these people to do the dirty work of installing and troubleshooting a product on a customer's site after it has been sold. Expect lots of long hours and a lot of travel to go along with these kinds of jobs.

    Sales Engineer - Otherwise known as Systems Integrators in some companies, these people help potential (pre-sales) customers understand, compare, and contrast the solutions that are available for buying from the company they are employed for. Companies such as NetApp, EMC, Dell, HP and others use SE's to accompany sales guys to meetings about a potential sale. These people are generally hardware techs who moved their way up in the ranks from within the company or moved from another company doing something similar. As such, it would be best to start as a deployment engineer or similar first if this sounds interesting.

    Technical Trainer - Just about every Tech company employs these guys to travel and host various classes, lectures and seminars. It's not overly "brainy" work, but the job does travel... A LOT.

    While I am sure there are more, this was an "off the hip" list that I could come up with. Perhaps others can add to it. Good luck in your ventures... It will not be easy and there is no avoiding at least some "office based desk work".

    1. Re:Field Engineers & Specialists by SpooForBrains · · Score: 2

      As a techie who wears t-shirts in the office but a suit when visiting clients or when doing consultancy gigs: bollocks to you, sir.

      Also, my colleague who is infinitely more knowledgable than me goes to client meetings and presentations in extremely good suits, because like any good obsessive, he believes that no suit is better than a poor suit.

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  10. Gym ball by c0lo · · Score: 2

    Replace you chair with a gym ball - advantage: no moment your muscles will totally relax (even back and core muscles), no blood stagnating because of standing for long times.

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    1. Re:Gym ball by wiwa · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did this for several months a few years ago, until one day when I was sitting at my desk I heard what sounded like a muffled gunshot, and suddenly found myself sitting on the floor with a very sore arse. The great thing about chairs is that they don't burst.

  11. High frequency trading by TheEffigy · · Score: 2

    High Frequency Trading - our pub crawls go for hours!

  12. Anything in a tall office building by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or indeed, get any office job in a building, get out of the lift 4 floors too short and walk up the stairs for the last four floors. Do that a few times a day and you'll easily burn the same.

    It's not difficult to find ways to keep fit. It's a state of mind not a job limitation.

    1. Re:Anything in a tall office building by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used to work in a 15-floor building and exclusively used the stairs. Mostly this meant a few dozen 2-3 floor trips and a couple of ~10 floor trips. These days I work in a building where all my co-workers are on the same floor... and it shows (despite going to the gym ~4 times a week).
      It's remarkable how little excersice you actually need, it's just that you have to do it all through the day. The hours at the gym don't match up to walking a few stairs every hour.

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    2. Re:Anything in a tall office building by mikael_j · · Score: 2

      If you're going to the gym four times per week and you're having problems keeping fat off (not gonna say weight, most guys at the gym want to gain weight, just not fat weight) then I'd suggest you check what you're eating.

      One "trick" to avoid overeating is to make sure you're getting enough protein, aim for 2 grams per kg of bodyweight. Throw in some fiber and chances are you're going to feel a lot more full.

      Then there's meal scheduling, I used to try following the typical "bodybuilder diet" that was all the rage for a long time. The basic idea being that you eat lots of small meals to "keep the fires of metabolism burning" and all that. Of course, I never felt full, I mostly always felt half-hungry, like driving around in a car that's got half a gallon in the tank and trying to remember to fill it up (with another half gallon) all the time. Then I stumbled across intermittent fasting. Turns out that the supposed benefits of eating lots of tiny meals have been vastly overstated, there's little risk of your body going into a catabolic state unless you're fasting for days and your metabolism doesn't just magically shut down because you haven't eaten in a couple of hours (unless of course you were already on the brink of starvation). So, with IF you eat one or two "meals" per day with a 16-18 hour period of not eating. In my case I really only eat "dinner" which is for a few hours after I've been to the gym, then I don't eat until I get back from the gym the next day.

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  13. The military? by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Informative

    What about the military, or something connected with it? Plenty of IT and similar equipment in the modern armed forces, all of which needs setting up, maintaining, and decomissioning just like any it does everywhere else, and that will often entail getting the out into the field. Even if you are stuck behind a desk for much of the time, you'll still need to do some physical activity as part of the daily routine since the military wants all of their staff to be physically fit for obvious reasons. If the prospect of potentially having to go on the front line doesn't appeal, then there are plenty of similar roles with defence contractors providing specialist support to the military, often on (much) higher pay - especially if you are prepared to go into places that might get a little heated.

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  14. Industry by JLangbridge · · Score: 2

    Working in industry is great for that. In my previous job, I used to work on industrial tightening systems, and I was sent abroad to a client based on the fact that I was one who could actually lift and install the system (50kg). When testing the system, you have to lift it, use it, install it, abuse it, etc. Getting back to the desk actually feels good! Right now I'm doing geoexploration systems, I'm a little less active, but when the systems are deployed onto 20km x 30km sites, you have to have a minimal test site to imitate what the end client will do, so I get to walk a lot between the different systems and test beds. All of this being a C/ASM developer.

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  15. Sneakers Admin, i.e. by zapyon · · Score: 2

    Windows Admin. ;-) But I believe they do have remote admin tools today, too. :-P

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  16. Field service and integration by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

    ...but the work is not very good and you wouldn't want to do it all your life. Personally I ride a bike to work. I let that requirement guide my choice of where to live and where to work.

  17. Instrumentation by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I build scientific instruments, actually I write the software for them, but since I end up being the only one who knows how to use them (unless they RTFM), I often go on the field to install them. I worked for 15 years in atmospheric science and spent 3 years running around Antarctica setting up and running various instruments. Now I do cosmology and nuclear physics, but it's the same and I end up installing cosminc ray or neutrino detectors on some nice mountains.

    But like others have already suggested, the best way to stay active is probably to bike to work. I have my own tricks for that...: live high, work low, ride dirt in the morning and, err, take the bus back home in the evening...

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  18. What I did ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2

    My associate and me started our company back in 2007, and the first product we developed was a hybrid DVR/NVR. During the dev process, we had to run around for the cameras testing our motion detection algorithms, and some other more complex stuff such as direction detection, object tracking, etc.

    The real fun started when we started selling a few as a kind of public beta, and realized that a) we didn't have any kind of infrastructure to handle major installs b) companies that did this sucked at it, so our attempt at outsourcing the task ended fairly quickly. We went quicker than you can say 75-ohm-impedance from developers to running around town, installing cameras 10 meters above our heads, running hundreds of meters of cable a day, and crawling through service floors.

    Sure, the startup quickly grew into a profitable company, the product matured, we hired technicians, got a distribution network, and started working on other products. But even now, 5 years later, I train new technicians myself, and supervise myself any major installation (and I can't just stand there while others work, so every time I go out with the techs, I work just like one of them)

    Also, you are required in the company, everywhere, at the same fucking time, so you go from your office, to the lab, to the coder's room, then out to the bank, then to visit customers, then to oversee some installation, then back to the office ...

    And that's not taking into account our basketball-brakes (we've got a small court at the company's backyard).

    Overall, I do more exercise than I ever did before.

    The result: I'm still fucking fat, because that's more related to what you eat than how much you exercise. The amount of workout you would need in order to offset eating like a fucking whale would be gargantuan.

    But, hey, at least I'm not sitting at the desk all the time, and I have a lot of fun!

    Talking about that, time to walk the dog and go to the office ...

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  19. CIO by hugetoon · · Score: 2

    And play golf

  20. Re:No need: Become a sysadmin by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, a programmer! http://xkcd.com/303/

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  21. Re:mod parent up by gomiam · · Score: 2

    You didn't dodge well enough... oh, you wrote "to", not "with".

  22. Your responsibility by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You haven't thought this through. It is your responsibility, not your career's, to keep you physically active.

    I love computer science (IT not so much) but I despise the thought of being stuck behind a desk for the rest of my life.

    Why would you have to be stuck behind a desk for the rest of your life? Can't you, like, I dunno, put a timer that makes you get up off your desk every 30 minutes, to stretch your hips or take a walk? Go to the gym during lunch (specially if there is one on or near your work premises)?

    At my desk I keep a tennis ball, rubber bands and two CoC grippers #1 and #2 for grip training, and several resistance bands, including for a variety of exercises, which I do throughout my work day. I had a co-worker who kept a pair of dumbbells under his desk for lunges, standing up presses and stuff like that. Myself, every other day I drive to the gym in the middle of lunch, and when I don't have time to go to the gym, I simply walk up and down the stairs (6 floors in total), or take a 15 minute walk. There is nothing in a professional career (not just CS) that requires you to be stuck on a chair.

    Life choices man, life choices. You are making this too complicated, a badly thought of solution looking for a non-existing problem.

    Are there any career paths that would suit a computer scientist who likes to be physically active and on his feet a lot?"

    Physical labor. You can be a computer scientist by education who chooses a physical labor career path instead.

    If your concern is about physical activities while working as a computer scientist, all you have to do is plan your work day, and your work week so that it integrates physical activity of some kind (possibly in addition to an after-hours physically active lifestyle). This is not rocket science.

    Now, if your concern is that being a computer scientist will deprive you from enjoying the outside world, dude, you are on the wrong career path. At the end of the day, being in career like computer science requires dedication to tackle problems that, many times, require undivided attention. When you do work, when you get paid to do work, that's what you do, and if that means that sometimes you'll be sitting on a desk, solving problems that you are getting paid to solve, then, that's what you do.

    You inter-mix (sp?) physical activity during your work day, and after hours, but you do not expect your CS career to keep you physically active. You should expect yourself to do that, not your CS career. If you want your career to keep you physically active then you need to look at a different career.

    1. Re:Your responsibility by metrometro · · Score: 2

      "It is your responsibility, not your career's to keep you physically active."

      Isn't choosing a career that aligns with her/his goals a way of taking responsibility? You spend more time working than ANYTHING ELSE EVER. If it's not basically pleasant, and you have an option to change that, then do it.

  23. Re:oh... by PIBM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Develop kinek games. You've got to tweak them a lot before shipping them to QA.