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Microsoft Makes Skype Easier To Monitor

In a follow-up to a story earlier this week, derekmead writes "Skype has gone under a number of updates and upgrades since it was bought by Microsoft last year, mostly in a bid to improve reliability. But according to a report by the Washington Post, Skype has also changed its system to make chat transcripts, as well as users' addresses and credit card numbers, more easily shared with authorities. As we've already seen with Facebook and Twitter, big Internet firms aren't digging their heels in against government requests, which shouldn't come as a shock; angering the authorities is bad business. The lesson then is that, while the Internet will always retain a vestige of its Wild West days, as companies get bigger and bigger, they're either going to play ball with governments or go the way of Kim Dotcom."

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  1. Open Source by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Time to switch to something where we actually know what the software is doing.

    1. Re:Open Source by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Will Jitsi let me call home to my old wired phone?

      Corporations working closely with government, and government working closely with corporations, including exchanges of money through campaign donations & legislative acts. Plus favorable regulations to help the megacorps and block new startups. There's a word for that...... hmmmm, right on the tip of my tongue. Starts with an F. Or a C.

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    2. Re:Open Source by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... it does need mobile clients, although an Android client is apparently in the works.

    3. Re:Open Source by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We're almost at the point that we can drop POTS in favour of something less 'controlled'. I'm sure other measures will be taken to ensure it's not that easy though.

    4. Re:Open Source by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Time to switch to something where we actually know what the software is doing.

      Now all have to do is convince friends, family, business and professional contacts to abandon Skpe. Something which is not going to happen.

    5. Re:Open Source by grantspassalan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most people THINK they do not have anything to hide, such as when they talk about the antics of their 3-year-old grandson or other inane conversations. Therefore most people would not switch or quit using Skype. Anyone who does have deep dark secrets they wish to hide from the KGB, FBI, NSA, Gestapo or other such agencies, would not be using Skype or any other easily intercepted communication system.

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    6. Re:Open Source by Sir_Sri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once you do that the government will move in an legislate something else. That is what governments do.

  2. Re:For me, the real question is... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't get your hopes up. It's "on the internet". Seems consitutional rights don't apply there.

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  3. Re:The thing to keep in mind is by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So the people "up to something" will use encryption we cannot monitor, you say? Well, I guess that means that everyone who doesn't use our standard encryption that isn't worth being called encryption is suspicious just for using an encryption method we cannot eavesdrop in.

    Thank you for your input, citizen, it will be considered with the next round of new laws.

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  4. Re:time to bypass the middlemen by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm, how about no thanks? It's time for the programmer community to develop easy to use, robust, strongly encrypted, point to point programs.

    And that will happen right after ipv6 becomes standard and NAT goes away. point to point is pretty tricky to make 'just' work in our currented "ipv4 nearly everyone is behind a NAT system".

    Realistically, a middle man is going to be here for a long while yet.

  5. Problem: It is not true by benjymouse · · Score: 5, Informative

    This from the TFA:

    Skype has gone under a number of updates and upgrades since it was bought by Microsoft last year, mostly in a bid to improve reliability. But according to a killer report by the Washington Post, Skype has also changed its system to make chat transcripts, as well as users’ addresses and credit card numbers, more easily shared with authorities.

    The " to make chat transcripts, as well as users’ addresses and credit card numbers, more easily shared with authorities" is pure speculation.

    And the alleged updates "since it was bought by Microsoft last year" (supernodes hosted in central data centers) was actually started in 2010, well before the Microsoft acquisition:

    http://www.zdnet.com/skype-talks-back-to-critics-on-security-and-privacy-7000001682/

    But this is slashdot. Why let facts get in the way of a good rumor-fueled speculation when it promises for a good Microsoft bashing?

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  6. Re:time to bypass the middlemen by Teresita · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That will work until the alternative solution crosses a certain threshold of users, the founders sell out to Microsoft or Apple or Google and the new technology is monetized and put under monitoring, just like Skype and Vonage and Napster and Lindows before them. Lather, rinse, repeat.

  7. Almost Yes. by DrYak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Will Jitsi let me call home to my old wired phone?

    Yes:
    Jitzi supports the SIP standard and there are plenty of SIP-to-POTS providers around (for example, I use Switzernet which is based in switzerland and free to/from several european countries. Works with both my SIP sfotwares - Ekiga and Twinkle). ...BUT...

    For obvious reasons there's no easy way to guarantee end-to-end encryption. So you *CAN* call home, but you won't get guaranteed privacy.

    For full end-to-end encryption you need:
    - a digital link from the source to the other end (which is not the case when bridging to POTS)
    - the possibility to audit the software used at both ends that there are no bugs or implementation problems which could leak critical data. (So you need an opensource front-end and an opensource encryption layer, preferably using known and well tested and documented protocols (like ZRTP). And you need enough independent eyeballs looking at said code) (Jitzi is opensource so one can check that everything is properly implemented to avoid leaks).

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    1. Re:Almost Yes. by rtfa-troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The great thing about VOIP is it doesn't matter. You can install and run both clients at the same time and then just make sure you are visible in Jitsi as much as possible whilst being visible very rarely in Skype, and then only when you want something (sit there invisible, but turn on notifications so you see when friends without Jitsi come on line). From time to time suggest to people that it would be easier to get you if they had Jitsi. When you meet people show them how to set up Jitsi (or whichever other client you prefer) to work better than Skype.

      No need to get political. The simple phrase "I want to have something I can rely on; I don't trust Microsoft not to mess me about later; remember how they killed off KIN / Windows Mobile 6 / Windows Mobile 7 / the desktop PC / efficient working in Office / flight simulator / plays for sure / etc. etc.". Preferably choose a Microsoft betrayal that cost you personally There are so many simple technical betrayals by Microsoft that you can start with those before going into the political. Even there, you should start with things like "because Microsoft chooses to support Chinese censorship" which are simple and clear to understand.

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    2. Re:Almost Yes. by FireFury03 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And, Failing that, you can always have the conversation converted to text and then ROT13 it. Oh, wait...

      ROT-13 is insecure these days, better to use double-ROT-13

  8. Want to know the truth about Skype? Read on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm posting anonymously because I don't need attention. Here's the chronology and you can find the sources of these claims on your own.

    - NSA issues a billion dollar RFP asking for a solution to wiretapping Skype
    - as years pass, NSA's concerns about Skype keep on growing, they keep on lobbying lawmakers and industry officials
    - out of the blue, MS buys Skype and pays an astronomical price
    - buying Skype at that price makes no sense for MS since it poisons their relationships with carriers and pundits are confused
    - first thing MS does is it kills supernodes and installs THOUSANDS of Linux servers running grsecurity http://grsecurity.net/news.php#Skype
    - that means that ALL Skype traffic now passes through MS servers and can be easily wiretapped since MS holds all the keys and can easily perform a MITM attack
    - NSA starts jumping from joy because their biggest black hole has been plugged.
    - MS is happy because they are now getting regular large checks from NSA

    tl;dr: Skype's a botnet and NSA paid MS to buy Skype

    1. Re:Want to know the truth about Skype? Read on. by gshegosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you don't need attention, how is that you believe that Slashdot won't forward your IP to authorities?

  9. Re:For me, the real question is... by Kalriath · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your government already thinks constitutional rights don't apply when the target is not a US citizen (bonus points if they aren't even in the US)

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  10. From "stealing" mp3s to citizen surveillance by gshegosh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I find it quite amusing, that the software that comes from creators of Kazaa, which uses the same P2P methodology that was developed to help people bypass government- and law-restrictions is now being used to spy on people.