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Images Show Apollo Moon Flags Still Standing

TheNextCorner writes "Images taken by a NASA spacecraft show that the American flags planted in the Moon's soil by Apollo astronauts are mostly still standing. Each of the Apollo missions planted an American flag in the soil at their landing sites. Scientists had previously examined photos of the Apollo landing sites for the flags, and had seen what looked like shadows cast by them on the lunar surface. Now, researchers have studied photos of the landing sites taken at different points during the day (and under different illuminations) and have observed shadows circling the points where the flags are thought to be."

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  1. Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You'd think that the flags would've been knocked over by all that lunar wind by now.

    1. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or the desert wind rolling north from Mexico...

    2. Re:Amazing! by gman003 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You joke, but (IIRC) the Apollo 11 flag was accidentally knocked over during lift-off (rocket engines, unsurprisingly, generate "wind"). They tried to plant the flags further from the craft during later missions, but I guess they were never 100% sure it didn't happen again (I'm about to RTFA to find out).

    3. Re:Amazing! by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      the Apollo 11 flag was accidentally knocked over during lift-off (rocket engines...

      It would've been fine, but Buzz was doing donuts just after lift-off, and "buzzed it".

    4. Re:Amazing! by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Naaar! They'd have been knocked over by the whalers!

    5. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard that El Nino did it...

    6. Re:Amazing! by lightbounce · · Score: 1

      So when we finally make it back to the moon do we disturb the Apollo 11 site to raise the flag again, or do we leave just the way it is for historical purposes?

    7. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey did they ever find Alan Shepherd's six-iron shot?
      I bet it was unplayable.

    8. Re:Amazing! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      those are called "undocumented workers".

    9. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey did they ever find Alan Shepherd's six-iron shot?
      I bet it was unplayable.

      Some of those crater traps are quite deep.

      On the plus side, you don't have to worry about wind speed or direction!

  2. But...but... by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Funny

    The conspiracy theory nuts keep telling us that the moon landings were fake!

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    1. Re:But...but... by gstrickler · · Score: 2, Funny

      They'll just say these photos are fake. They have to keep up the illusion.

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    2. Re:But...but... by Antipater · · Score: 1

      Well, duh. The photographic equipment used for these pictures was obviously damaged by the same van Allen radiation belts that killed any astronaut dumb enough to leave low Earth orbit!

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    3. Re:But...but... by tippe · · Score: 0

      They are! I have it on good authority that Stanly Kubrick himself photoshoped the flag onto those pictures...

    4. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You could round them up, put them on a rocket to the moon, show them around and bring them back. And they would say they had been drugged or hypnotized. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy.

    5. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The conspiracy theory nuts keep telling us that the moon landings were fake!

      They should watch more Mythbusters :)

    6. Re:But...but... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's because they're blithering retards. My advice is to tell them to fuck off, and if they still insist on blathering on, go Buzz Aldrin on them.

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    7. Re:But...but... by Moses48 · · Score: 5, Funny
    8. Re:But...but... by wjousts · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do we really have to bring them back? Seems easier not to.

    9. Re:But...but... by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

      I figured they'll jump on the statement that all of the flags are still standing *except* Apollo 11's. They can then claim that one was faked to get in under the wire to hit the moon in the 60s on the first attempt while the subsequent ones were real.

    10. Re:But...but... by houghi · · Score: 1

      The studio they filmed it is at area 51 and was closed till now.
      or:
      Looking at the pixels, it is clearly photoshoped.

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    11. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oblig u mad?

    12. Re:But...but... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

      The government was behind the moon landings!

      No, seriously, the landings were faked, but they were filmed on the moon. We've had a base up there since 1958. "We can't film the dark side... for some reason."

      It's a contrail factory.

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    13. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The conspiracy theory nuts keep telling us that the moon landings were fake!

      They were, there is irrefutable evidence for people willing and able to think for themselves, open your mind.

    14. Re:But...but... by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Show them around the "sound stage" without a space suit.

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    15. Re:But...but... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      The conspiracy theory nuts keep telling us that the moon landings were fake!

      They should watch more Mythbusters :)

      I hear that those Mythbusters are just a myth! Or are they.... ;-/

    16. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because the radiation levels are not as high or as lethal as many would have you believe.

      The van Allen belts, to begin with, are regions of highly energetic particle radiation. Particle radiation can be shielded by quite thin sheets of light metals such as aluminium and plastics. Guess what the Apollo spacecraft was made from.... In addition, the belts are ust that: belts. Space trave is a 3-dimensional problem, and it is quite simple to arrange the flight path from Earth to the Moon such that it passes over or under the most intense areas of the belts. Thirdly, the passage through the belts was during the phase of the journey when they were travelling at their fastest, (20-25,000 mph), so they were not in them for long.

      Cosmic and solar radiation is also largely particle radiation. The EM radiation such as gamma rays and X-rays is not high out there and can be easily attentuated by their spacesuits and spacecraft and endured for the short time they were on the Moon.

      Radiation is a big problem for planned future missions because the intention is to spend months or years at a time there, and when considering radiation exposure duration is critical. Your body can withstand a short high level dose without too much trouble, but steady exposure to lower levels can be fatal after a while.

    17. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oblig WHARRGARBL

    18. Re:But...but... by crutchy · · Score: 2

      the moon base is where they send convicts now because australia is apparently already overpopulated with americans, and LV426 is a no go because people keep getting killed by some mysterious monsters (i don't beleive them because there aren't any real monsters... except the borg that have infiltrated congress)

      the moon base is run by jfk and elvis

      oh, and the dark side cant be filmed because of the civilization of rock spiders there and because the monolith orbiting jupiter told us not to mess with them

      PS. if seven of nine ever runs for my electorate, i'll sure as hell be voting for her... WOOF!

    19. Re:But...but... by crutchy · · Score: 1

      you mean the sickening Van Halen radiation

      gimme AC/DC any day

    20. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best thing about that comic is the title text.

      > "Ok, so Spirit and Opportunity are pretty awesome. And Kepler. And New Horizons, Cassini, Curiosity, TiME, and Project M. But c'mon, if the Earth were a basketball, in 40 years no human's been more than half an inch from the surface."

    21. Re:But...but... by Ruie · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You are oversimplifying things. Yes, slow moving charged particles (such as electrons or Helium nuclei) can be easily shielded. However, fast moving particles are much harder to shield against as they create showers of new particles (of lower energy) upon collision.

      The spectrum of these particles extends way up - scientists are busily observing particles with energies on EeV scale (roughly what a moving golfball has), though these are quite rare.

      Neutral particles, like gamma rays, can only be shielded by a bulk material - the penetration depth depends on density.

      Lastly, we have we have direct visual observation of cosmic rays by astronauts on Apollo missions and ISS.

      In summary - being in space is kinda like being on a battlefield - if your general did not screw up the chance of being hit by an artillery shell is quite small. But this does not mean it cannot happen.

    22. Re:But...but... by cupantae · · Score: 1

      They wanted to test if the program "Mythbusters" is just a myth in one episode.

      Unfortunately, Grant, Kari and Tori were allowed to do that one, so their experiment had gaping holes and proved inconclusive.

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    23. Re:But...but... by Sketchly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why did they wear radiation belts?

    24. Re:But...but... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Then their last radio conversation would be "See, NASA didn't have the technology to bring them back, so they faked it instea......[croak]".

    25. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why hasn't NASA managed to fake anything else in the past 35 years?

      Where were they able to pull a vacuum on an area larger than the Superdome back in 1969?

      Where did they get the engineering and materials to build a dome capable of withstanding ~400,000 tons of external pressure with no internal supports? and external suspensions don't cut, the golden gate bridge falls an order of magnitude short of supporting that much external weight.

      And how were they able to hide it?

      Of course never mind that what the LHAs claim is evidence against the landing is usually evidence that it really happened, because they know nothing about very low pressure physics.

    26. Re:But...but... by yurtinus · · Score: 2

      It's a more permanent solution than the chastity belts were.

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    27. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, Grant, Kari and Tori were allowed to do that one, so their experiment had gaping holes and proved inconclusive.

      I know you're right, but I don't always care... Kari Byron

    28. Re:But...but... by camperslo · · Score: 1

      No, seriously, the landings were faked, but they were filmed on the moon. We've had a base up there since 1958.

      Research has been uncovered that dates back to 1953

      http://archive.org/details/Cat_Women_of_the_Moon

    29. Re:But...but... by stepho-wrs · · Score: 1

      I'll play Devil's advocate - just for the fun of it.

      Surely a geodesic dome could be built that big.
      Granted that all the ones we know of don't have a vacuum inside.
      But the external air pressure would be coming from the sides as well as the top (ie not just squishing in downwards), so perhaps that might not be a big deal.
      Also, it wouldn't have to be a perfect vacuum, it only needs to be good enough to not cause anything to obviously flap in the wind.
      My guess is that ordinary air pressure and attention to detail would cover it.

    30. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yet another one: http://xkcd.com/331/

    31. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many Teslas are needed to Poison a Ratt?

    32. Re:But...but... by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      The Nazis have been there since 1945.

    33. Re:But...but... by XsCode · · Score: 1

      The conspiracy theory nuts keep telling us that the moon landings were fake!

      They should watch more Mythbusters :)

      The fact that they went to NASA to help them doesn't inspire confidence in impartial results.

    34. Re:But...but... by Coisiche · · Score: 5, Funny

      And these photos just provide more ammunition to them if they spin it correctly.

      Take the Apollo 16 site image. The lunar rover is parked some 100 metres from the LEM but everyone knows that an American would never park their vehicle that far from their destination.

      ...

      (Yeah, I know Young parked it there so the on-board camera could be used to capture the capsule ascent.)

    35. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Nazis always win.

    36. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not that hard to land a flag on the moon...

    37. Re:But...but... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      PS. if seven of nine ever runs for my electorate, i'll sure as hell be voting for her... WOOF!

      Her ex-husband, Jack Ryan, was running for US Senate in Illinois, but dropped out of the race because of hanky-panky. The wikipedia article about it is pretty interesting.

      Jack Ryan (born October 6, 1959) is a Republican from the state of Illinois who was forced to withdraw from the 2004 United States Senate race due to an alleged sex scandal involving his relationship with his ex-wife, actress Jeri Ryan.[1][2] His eventual replacement, Alan Keyes, would go on to lose the general election to State Senator and future President of the United States, Barack Obama.

    38. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bah! There is no Moon. It's just a clever illusion propagated by the Illuminati to keep us distracted from the real issues, Atlantians are among us, Thoth is coming!

    39. Re:But...but... by whitroth · · Score: 1

      Thoth is coming?

      1. No, that's C'thulhu
      2. You just think that because of the rays from the Devos beneath the earth's crust and oceans. (Points if you recognize what that's from).
      3. The Christians have been waiting for their God's Second Coming for 2000 years. Our Goddess has come twice tonight, already.

                        mark

    40. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll just say these photos are fake. They have to keep up the illusion.

      In all seriousness, these photos are such low res that it's no stretch to consider them faked. I'm not saying they are fake, but they're only proof for those that trust the images.
      Why they don't drive a LRV over to them and snap a good shot is beyond me. Seems like there'd be good science there too - if we're wasting time taking pictures from orbit trying to figure out if the flags are still there, why not just drive up to it, look, and also inspect for damage, decay, radiation levels, etc. I'm also surprised at the low quality of the images... we have earthly pics from orbit that are higher res... stick a big ass zoom lens on that thing!

    41. Re:But...but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll play Devil's advocate - just for the fun of it. Surely a geodesic dome could be built that big. Granted that all the ones we know of don't have a vacuum inside. But the external air pressure would be coming from the sides as well as the top (ie not just squishing in downwards), so perhaps that might not be a big deal. Also, it wouldn't have to be a perfect vacuum, it only needs to be good enough to not cause anything to obviously flap in the wind. My guess is that ordinary air pressure and attention to detail would cover it.

      Uhm.. guys.. did any of you actually look at the "irrefutable evidence" link? ;->

  3. Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Photoshop is an incredible program.

    1. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, even i can shop in a couple of black pixels and call it a flag.

    2. Re:Fake by codemachine · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was photoshop, they would have much better resolution.

      Seriously this is a camera they stuck on the probe?? They could not get an NSA one that can read a watch from Earth LEO. Moon LEO is much "lower" and would easier.

    4. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean "LLO"

    5. Re:Fake by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

      1) Those NRO surveillance satellites which have been declassified are really big for something you'd send to the moon. You'd need to launch it on a Saturn5 or something similar to get it there.

      2) Contemporary NRO operations are all classified, so we can only speculate about what would be possible.

    6. Re:Fake by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      But you wouldn't need something as big since the moon has no atmosphere. No atmosphere means no distortion to compensate for.

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    7. Re:Fake by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

      Diffraction is the limiting factor even for earth orbiting telescopes, atmospheric distortion wouldn't enter the equation until you were looking at much higher resolutions.

      The equation for the relationship is given in the second link I posted, if you're interested.

    8. Re:Fake by Ruie · · Score: 2
      You want your mirror large in order to resolve small angles and small objects. The smallest angle you can resolve is lambda/D where lambda is the wavelength of light you are using (400nm for near-UV blue) and D is the diameter of your mirror or lens.

      So suppose you have satellite in 100km orbit around the moon with a 2.4meter aperture (like Hubble) using 400nm light. Then the smallest angle you can resolve is 0.034 arcseconds and you cannot resolve features smaller than 16mm. If you use red light (600nm) then you cannot resolve features smaller than an inch.

    9. Re:Fake by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      You jest, but you bring up a valid point. Back when I was younger and film cameras ruled the roost, pictures meant absolute proof. Or real close anyways. Now, every modern picture taken is questionable. Because Photoshop is just that good.

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    10. Re:Fake by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          It's definitely photoshopped. They took out Jesus riding the unicorn. :)

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    11. Re:Fake by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      And lets not forget that getting a 2.4 meter mirror to moon orbit is something we can't do right now.

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    12. Re:Fake by Chowderbags · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia...

  4. An appropriate response. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/10121/

  5. this is interesting and all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but it would be even MORE interesting if they WEREN'T there anymore.

    We might even have a reason to go back and checkout what/who was moving our flags around :)

    1. Re:this is interesting and all... by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why wouldn't they be standing? Because of the exhaust from the lunar module ascent stage's rocket engine. The LM blew all kinds of crap around when it took off, and kicked up dust on the surface. Here's a video of the Apollo 17 lunar liftoff, taken from the lunar rover's remote controlled camera.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iziumcklDbM

    2. Re:this is interesting and all... by Art+Challenor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Technically, there's nothing that shows they are the SAME flags, just SOME flags.

    3. Re:this is interesting and all... by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A better video if you want to show what kind of mess that rocket kicks up is Apollo 15 because while 17 stayed focused on the ascent with 15 they stayed focused on the lander and you get to see what a mess is left after they fired that engine up, with debris splattered all over the place.

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    4. Re:this is interesting and all... by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that link - besides being a pretty cool visual, the commentary on it is *amazing*!!

      Youtube never disappoints.

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    5. Re:this is interesting and all... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Most of the junk you see is mostly from the pyrotechnics holding the Ascent Module to the Lander. Watch the video. There is actually surprisingly little dust kicked up. This makes sense when you think about it. The force of the ascent motor was directed downwards onto the Lander platform. That platform is well above the height of the flag. As the exhaust plume spreads out, it will spread out in a straight line. It will not be diverted because the moon essentially has no atmosphere. It would be like holding a flashlight against the top of a desk. It won't illuminate anything below the surface of the desk. It is not until the Ascent Module gains some altitude before the exhaust plume would have impinged directly on the flag, and by that time it was far away. Bear in mind that we are talking about a vacuum here. You might have a "breeze" about as strong as a leaf blower. It would be enough to ruffle the flag, and spin it around like a weather vane, but it could easily still be standing, depending on how well the flag pole was planted.

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    6. Re:this is interesting and all... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      it will spread out in a straight line

      No, it will spread out in a cone. Movement from high pressure to low pressure happens in space, too.

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    7. Re:this is interesting and all... by multi+io · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is the Apollo 14 lift-off from the LEM's onboard camera, which shows the flag at the moment of ignition and the two or three seconds after that. Although the flag holds up, it's pretty obvious how it could have been blown over during the Apollo 11 launch.

    8. Re:this is interesting and all... by goodmanj · · Score: 2

      Check out an earlier post in this thread for the Apollo 15 video, which stays focused on the landing area. You see a lot more dust kicked up, and little pieces of the LM descent stage being blown off well after the ascent stage has departed, and dust stuck onto the camera lens afterward.

      You're right that gas expansion into a vacuum is a tricky thing, but while the forward front of exhaust gas will move in a straight line, that gas will be moving outward at the speed of exhaust gas molecules (hundreds or thousands of m/s): within a fraction of a second, the entire landing area will be filled with gas -- a thin temporary atmosphere made of exhaust -- and everything afterward will be ordinary fluid mechanics. You're right that the breeze *could* be too gentle to keep the flag standing -- in fact, TFA shows that it was. But my post was trying to explain why it's not obvious either way.

    9. Re:this is interesting and all... by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      Soon there'll be one hanging as a "prize" in the Chairman's room in Beijing, China.

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    10. Re:this is interesting and all... by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Thank you! That's the video I was looking for for my earlier post, but couldn't find.

  6. Image clarity by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Moon or someone sneezed over a cappuccino.

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    1. Re:Image clarity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick, someone call in CSI! Zoom! Enhance!

    2. Re:Image clarity by pluther · · Score: 2

      Uncrop!

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  7. If we had any balls by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    we wouldn't have to forensically analyze long-distance data to figure out if the flags are standing or not. We'd just be looking out the damn window and see.

    1. Re:If we had any balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, then our balls would be useless since the radiation that'd leak in would be shredding our DNA.

    2. Re:If we had any balls by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Palin can see it from her house

    3. Re:If we had any balls by multi+io · · Score: 1

      If we had any balls, we wouldn't have to forensically analyze long-distance data to figure out if the flags are standing or not. We'd just be looking out the damn window and see.

      Area 51 is still closed to the public though :P

    4. Re:If we had any balls by camperdave · · Score: 1

      If we had any balls, we wouldn't have to forensically analyze long-distance data to figure out if the flags are standing or not. We'd just be looking out the damn window and see.

      Area 51 is still closed to the public though :P

      It's only closed to the public as long as the public is out-armed by the guards. If fifty thousand concerned citizens with automatic weapons and surplus armoured vehicles drove up to the front door, they may get a tour.

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  8. The shadows are all wrong by DeTech · · Score: 1

    Definitely photoshopped.

    1. Re:The shadows are all wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can tell by the pixels.

    2. Re:The shadows are all wrong by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      By Rain Man

    3. Re:The shadows are all wrong by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The shadows are all wrong

      Shadows get all warped with use and time.

      Didn't you ever watch Wile E. Coyote?
         

    4. Re:The shadows are all wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shadow of the flag is to the left and all other shadows are to the right.

  9. Whew! by partiklehead · · Score: 5, Funny

    What a relief!
    Imagine having to go all the way back there and fix it.

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    1. Re:Whew! by vlm · · Score: 1

      What a relief!

      Imagine having to go all the way back there and fix it.

      Now that we've given up on technology in the US, maybe the plan would have been to pray that the Chinese would fix it for us.

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    2. Re:Whew! by PRMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      We'd have to anyway. All US flags are made in China...

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    3. Re:Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a relief!
      Imagine having to go all the way back there and fix it.

      Superman already fixed it after it got knocked over in the fight with Nuclear Man.

    4. Re:Whew! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      A Tiger Mom would make you.

    5. Re:Whew! by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Nah, we'd just get Superman to tweak it.

  10. Re:Fuck Apple! by Dins · · Score: 4, Informative

    Warning: Link above is gay porn...

  11. Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel! by Chas · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Mr. Sibrel,

    Hope that jaw doesn't ache too much from the jacking that Mr. Aldrin gave it.
    Oh yeah, here's more proof from one of our lunar orbiters that there are, indeed, flags on the moon where the landings occurred and that all but one are still standing.

    Hoax theory disproved bitch!

    NASA

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  12. Why does it look like there is no gravity? by dreold · · Score: 1

    The shadow gives the impression that the flag is still in its unfurled state (like on the photo from the landing).

    Since there is gravity on the Moon, wouldn't the fabric have come down to hang close to the pole, i.e. just like it would on a calm day on Earth?

    But it's obviously difficult to tell what one is looking at exactly.

    1. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If I am correct, the flag had wire inside of it holding it up.

    2. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by bcong · · Score: 2

      There is a rod/pole on the top edge to keep it out like it is in a strong wind. Talk about an engineering face palm if the smart engineers at NASA didn't figure out that one sooner rather than later.

    3. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative

      AIUI, the flag is actually hanging from a thin, stiff rod that holds it up. If it weren't for that, it would always have been hanging down.

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    4. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Informative

      As I recall (being old enough to have watched the whole thing on TV as a kid) - the moon flags have a rigid frame behind the fabric. Assuming the flag itself is made from actual fabric, which I don't remember. Anyway, the flags would not wave in a breeze.

      It would be interesting to revisit the sites and see what kind of shape the flags are in - if there are holes punched through them, for instance.

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    5. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

      As there was no wind the flags all had a bar at the top to hold the flag perpendicular to the pole. They'd stay that way until UV destroyed them so much that it just fell off.

    6. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A horizontal rod extending from the top of the pole.

    7. Re:Why does it look like there is no gravity? by khallow · · Score: 1

      I gather they'll be heavily faded if not completely white by now. Probably will be a few micrometeorite impacts.

  13. A reason for a return trip for at least two people by Earl+The+Squirrel · · Score: 1

    So, since Neil and Buzz's flag fell over, I think they can call dibs on a 2nd flight to the Moon to fix that.... to be historically accurate they'd have to be the ones who did it... like having the original painter repair a masterpiece... the only way to do it right :-)

  14. Good 'shop job by stevegee58 · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows the whole thing was filmed in Hollywood.

  15. Nice by iONiUM · · Score: 0

    That's a really good aerial shot of the set they used to stage the lunar landing.

  16. Coincidentally... by Airballp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Top ranking NASA officials also used the phrase "mostly still standing" to describe the state of the U.S. space program.

    1. Re:Coincidentally... by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 0

      That's what she said! (before she went for the viagra bottle)

      --
      I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
    2. Re:Coincidentally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Mostly harmless" works as well.

    3. Re:Coincidentally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shows what YOU know, Mr. Smarty Pants. It turns out your space program is only MOSTLY dead.

  17. Pics would be nice by codepigeon · · Score: 2

    From the article: "The most convincing way to see that the flags are still there, is to view a time series of LROC images taken at different times of day, and watch the shadow circle the flag."

    Well, those would have been nice to see.

    1. Re:Pics would be nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, funny that they didn't release those instead.

      We have great shots!!! but here's some ambiguous shit!

    2. Re:Pics would be nice by 3dr · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Multiple sample images would be great to see.

      I'm afraid their phrase, "images taken at different times of day" is very imprecise. It's not like you can take images hour-to-hour of features on the moon and see significant changes. Since the moon rotates at 29.x days/rotation, obvious shadow changes (to our eyes) would only be observed by taking images Earth *days* apart. I'm surprised the BBC wrote this.

    3. Re:Pics would be nice by Fiztaru · · Score: 1

      It's not imprecise. They're just referring to a lunar day, not an Earth day (which you correctly pointed out is about 29 Earth days long).

      Just need to remember it's a different frame of reference.

      --
      In good speaking, should not the mind of the speaker know the truth of the matter about which he is to speak? - Plato
  18. Re:Fuck Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    No it isn't, it's just two guys sucking each other's dicks.

  19. bring back /. classic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought "the Moon" was a ridiculous liberal myth. I read it somewhere on the internetz.

  20. Re:Fuck Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yep, just a normal day of work for an Apple employee.

  21. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by jd2112 · · Score: 1

    Dear Mr. Sibrel,

    Hope that jaw doesn't ache too much from the jacking that Mr. Aldrin gave it. Oh yeah, here's more proof from one of our lunar orbiters that there are, indeed, flags on the moon where the landings occurred and that all but one are still standing.

    Hoax theory disproved bitch!

    NASA

    No, they will just change the conspiracy theory based on this new "evidence", like perhaps NASA had the Russians put that stuff on the moon back in the '80s or something. If you took the conspiracy nuts to the moon and showed them the lunar lander site they would say that they were drugged and hallucinated the whole thing rather than admit that they were wrong.

    --
    Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
  22. Don't we have telescopes? by valentinas · · Score: 1

    The pictures of stuff left on the moon lading site look like they were taken with a regular DSLR using 500mm lens. Don't we have big telescopes that could take a decent picture? It's not that far away after all.

    1. Re:Don't we have telescopes? by ckhorne · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Don't we have telescopes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No we don't.

    3. Re:Don't we have telescopes? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I am not a telescope designer, but from what I understand, telescopes have sort of a fixed distance that they can focus in on. So a telescope that can show you Mars, for example, won't give you a really good close-up of your neighbor's left nipple as she stands naked in the window.

    4. Re:Don't we have telescopes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not a telescope designer, but from what I understand, telescopes have sort of a fixed distance that they can focus in on. So a telescope that can show you Mars, for example, won't give you a really good close-up of your neighbor's left nipple as she stands naked in the window.

      Um, no. Resolving power is not to be confused with focal distance. Try using a telescope before telling people how they work.

  23. Obama's birth certificate is in the supply pouch by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Somehow it got mixed up with NASA paperwork when he was eight years old and living in Indonesia.

  24. What will happen to that flag. by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    About 15 years from now, the ambassador of the People's Republic of China will solemnly return that flag to the President of the United States. Some of the original Apollo astronauts will still be alive to attend. The flag will be placed in the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, for future generations of Americans to admire.

    1. Re:What will happen to that flag. by gawaino · · Score: 1

      Or: "Fry, look around! It's just a crummy plastic flag and a dead man's tracks in the dust. Now get in here before you freeze."

    2. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or:
      "Fry, look around! It's just a crummy plastic flag and a dead man's tracks in the dust. Now get in here before you freeze."

      "we're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon"

    3. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      That would be AWESOME. They'd have to include massive documentation to make the claim stick, but it could be done. Question is, does China have the big brass balls to do it. They just might, judging by their interest in the Olympics. It would indeed take at least 15 years. China's space program is nothing if not conservative.

      Sadly, they won't do it. They know it would change the world. It might even make us look up from our smartphones. They're not actually all that anxious for that to happen.

    4. Re:What will happen to that flag. by joe_frisch · · Score: 1

      What do you think the flag and footprint would sell for at auction? Almost worth another lunar visit...

    5. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. They'll just send a video of a Chinese astronaut unzipping his pressure suit and pissing on it.

    6. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...will hopefully have moved on to addressing more relevant problems.

      Like ... a colony on mars? :)

    7. Re:What will happen to that flag. by keytoe · · Score: 1

      "we're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon"

      "Oh yeah, well I don't see you with a fungineering degree"

    8. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Erikderzweite · · Score: 1

      Nice troll.

      This is called progress. The ultimate goal for our species is to be able to survive without the earthly ecosystem. In time, our planet will be gone, no matter what we do. There are many ways for the universe to screw our planet so the sooner we are able to thrive without it, the better.

      It is an awful strategy to keep all the living species in one place.

    9. Re:What will happen to that flag. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you think the flag and footprint would sell for at auction? Almost worth another lunar visit...

      Best I can do is 5 bucks...

  25. Too bad by itamblyn · · Score: 0

    If it had fallen over, that would have been a good excuse to go back and fix it.

  26. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 2

    so you're simultantiously rooting for a literal interpretation of the bible AND for the scientific acheivement of the moon landings.
    wow. nice job.
    10/10 troll. would read again!

  27. I don't know what the big deal is... by drkim · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know what the big deal is...

    You can see all the flags clearly by going to "Google Moon" and then go to street view.

    Of course, they've blurred the license plates on all the LRVs.

    1. Re:I don't know what the big deal is... by arthurpaliden · · Score: 2

      In the original Google Moon you could zoom all the way in to Swiss Cheese.

    2. Re:I don't know what the big deal is... by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      They might be having a "Google Mars" soon. I would be half-surprised if the contracted with NASA to get a feed from Curiosity after it lands in a week. Of course you can't enter addresses in the "street view" but it still would be extremely cool.

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      "Be grateful for what you have. You may never know when you may lose it."
    3. Re:I don't know what the big deal is... by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      Already there: Google Mars

      Can be viewed online or thru Google Earth.

      --

      "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert"
  28. All I see are pixels by InsaneLampshade · · Score: 1

    Surely this isn't newsworthy, haven't people taken some pixels of the flag area before in the last few years? Do we have additional pixels now in this picture?

    Either way the pixels look like pixels and not a flag. :(

    1. Re:All I see are pixels by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I can picture a Hollywood basement studio with stage hands carrying around giant pixels in preparation for this shot.

  29. Lunar Golf by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 1
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    Forward! -- Emperor Norton, 2012
    1. Re:Lunar Golf by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      It's a Horta race!

  30. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    As I've said before, I do believe that we landed on the Moon. But I enjoy playing a little devil's advocate. So, with that said...

    The images are obviously real. And they show that something on the Moon changes according to the day. The assumption is that it is the flag. But it could be any oddly shaped thing.

    So were I a conspiracy theorist, I'd point out that we never said that there weren't missions to the Moon. But were there any people on board? NASA proved that they could land on the Moon with the Surveyor missions. So these could easily be Apollo landers that were sent to the Moon in order to echo back radio messages to convince people that they were originating on the Moon. They could drop a flag and such off before landing.

    Heck, I should be on "Dancing with the Stars!"

    As an aside, I've never really heard from the conspiracy theorists on this one: Were Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 faked? Apollo 8 was the mission that flew around the Moon. Apollo 10 was the one that went to the Moon with a LEM but didn't actually land. The whole "leaving the Van Allen belts would kill the astronauts" theory would seem to imply that those missions must have been faked.

  31. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I were a Biblical literalist, why woulud I mention the "non-religious" interpretation at all? This is, BTW, from the parable of Lazarus the beggar and the rich man. Jesus Himself told it as a parable!!! Sheesh. I guess you just REALLY want to believe that I'm a troll and/or schizophrenic.

  32. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by jd2112 · · Score: 1

    As I've said before, I do believe that we landed on the Moon. But I enjoy playing a little devil's advocate. So, with that said...

    The images are obviously real. And they show that something on the Moon changes according to the day. The assumption is that it is the flag. But it could be any oddly shaped thing.

    So were I a conspiracy theorist, I'd point out that we never said that there weren't missions to the Moon. But were there any people on board? NASA proved that they could land on the Moon with the Surveyor missions. So these could easily be Apollo landers that were sent to the Moon in order to echo back radio messages to convince people that they were originating on the Moon. They could drop a flag and such off before landing.

    Heck, I should be on "Dancing with the Stars!"

    As an aside, I've never really heard from the conspiracy theorists on this one: Were Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 faked? Apollo 8 was the mission that flew around the Moon. Apollo 10 was the one that went to the Moon with a LEM but didn't actually land. The whole "leaving the Van Allen belts would kill the astronauts" theory would seem to imply that those missions must have been faked.

    Let's switch to new-school conspiracy theory: It's Obama's fault that they had to fake the moon landings. I'm not sure how but everything is Obama's fault right? After all he's the one that killed off all the dinosaurs, caused the great flood, started the civil war, Talked Napoleon into invading Europe, Made Hitler anti-Semitic, Shot JFK and RFK, and started Global Warming.

    Wait, that's almost as credible as some of the moon landing conspiracy theories.

    (I'm not a big fan of Obama by the way, I just think it's funny that the right-wing wackos seem to find the need to blame *Everything* on Obama)

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    Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
  33. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by PRMan · · Score: 0

    Um, yes. Why is there something wrong with that? Just because people believe that God occasionally did miracles doesn't mean that they're science haters or something. It's only the God-haters saying that.

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    Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
  34. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

    That is why you don't let them wear a space helmet. So they can see it with their own eyes.

  35. Who gives a shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its a god damn flag on the moon. Who gives a shit? Oh Im sorry I forgot this isnt just any flag, its an AMERIKAHN FLAG!!!!! So that makes this earth shattering news.

    1. Re:Who gives a shit? by Tablizer · · Score: 1, Funny

      The real conspiracy is that the US flag says, "Made In China".

    2. Re:Who gives a shit? by multi+io · · Score: 1

      Its a god damn flag on the moon. Who gives a shit? Oh Im sorry I forgot this isnt just any flag, its an AMERIKAHN FLAG!!!!! So that makes this earth shattering news.

      No, the fact that it's on the moon makes it news. If there were any Pizza Hut flags on the moon, they'd be news too. It's just that... there aren't.

    3. Re:Who gives a shit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are, of course, MTV flags.

  36. Umm.. by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    but you're cool with it if I still wanna try-- right?

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    every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
  37. thanks for the article guys. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    I know the lunar landing and the flag come up a bunch in conversation and even sometimes on slashdot. Let me tell you, the state of the flag is taken very seriously here at Buena Vista studios in Burbank. What you may not know is that we've had a few touch-and-go situations that, had there been an actual lunar landing, would have been very similar to the storyline!

    1977: doug, old key grip for leave it to beaver, accidentally left flag on the set of a hawaii 5-0 episode.
    1981: flagpole repurposed for episode of the love boat, shuffleboard scene, and forgotten in a prop shop for 9 days.
    1993: flag destroyed by stunt dog for the upcoming 1994 release of Lassie the movie.
    2006: after a tragic accident involving bottle of wine and the original star wars reels, flag was quickly repurposed as an absorbant towel to no great effect
    2009: flag replaced after concerns surfaced regarding wine stains.

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    Good people go to bed earlier.
  38. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by pluther · · Score: 1
    Ummm.... when he presents a passage from the Bible clearly as a metaphor for a larger truth, how do you come to the conclusion that he's "rooting for a literal interpretation"?

    Perhaps you literally don't know the meaning of the word literal?

    And the conclusion is correct - Reason is irrelevant to anyone who still holds to the idea that the moon landing was a hoax. There is no evidence you can show them that they will be unable to justify away.

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    If the masses can keep you down, you're not the Ubermensch.
  39. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by Chas · · Score: 1

    It's called an "airlock inspection".

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    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  40. !soil by Nethead · · Score: 2

    flags planted in the Moon's soil ..

    The lunar surface has no soil. It's all regolith.

    Minus one geek point for Samzenpus.

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    -- I have a private email server in my basement.
    1. Re:!soil by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Then the astronaut should take something for his speech impediment, and try planting the flag again.

    2. Re:!soil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      From the link you supplied, it says, "It includes dust, soil, broken rock, and other related materials and is present on Earth, the Moon, some asteroids, and other terrestrial planets and moons.".

      Also, from another article on 'Lunar Soil', it says, "Some have argued that the term "soil" is not correct in reference to the Moon because on the Earth, soil is defined as having organic content, whereas the Moon has none. However, standard usage among lunar scientists is to ignore that distinction."

      So it seems what they said was true. Point returned to Samzenpus. :-)

  41. Oh Say Can You See by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    NASA is so proud they had "and the flag was still there" added to the National Anthem.

    1. Re:Oh Say Can You See by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they'll soon have to delete the line about "the rocket's red glare" just so nobody asks awkward questions.

    2. Re:Oh Say Can You See by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      They can hit that high note only by running out of oxygen.
       

  42. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by Macrat · · Score: 1

    As an aside, I've never really heard from the conspiracy theorists on this one: Were Apollo 8 and Apollo 10 faked? Apollo 8 was the mission that flew around the Moon.

    After the crew of Apollo 1 died a horrible death, all of the later Apollo missions were unmanned.

    Those capsules weren't ready to support humans until just before the Skylab missions.

  43. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Literally oblig xkcd?

    http://xkcd.com/725/

    (Figuratively speaking)

  44. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's switch to new-school conspiracy theory: It's Obama's fault that they had to fake the moon landings. I'm not sure how but everything is Obama's fault right? After all he's the one that killed off all the dinosaurs, caused the great flood, started the civil war, Talked Napoleon into invading Europe, Made Hitler anti-Semitic, Shot JFK and RFK, and started Global Warming.

    He also introduced Elvis to deep-fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches, and I'm fairly certain he was present at the crucifixion.

    Having said all that - at least he never claimed to have invented the Internet.

  45. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by hondo77 · · Score: 1

    Nobody hates god...or Santa...or the Easter Bunny.

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    I live ze unknown. I love ze unknown. I am ze unknown.
  46. Apparently in Idaho... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently in Idaho it doesn't get windy enough to knock over those flags left over from the faking of the moon landings.

  47. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by cusco · · Score: 1

    I hate the Easter Bunny. All those eggs, and none of them ever hatched . . .

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    "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
  48. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by JDeane · · Score: 1

    I hate Santa... my mom tried for years to get a picture of me sitting on Santa's lap as a child. No way in hell was I going near that freak... I don't care how many malls or stores we went too. The rest are fine as long as they stay out of my way.

  49. Fake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course they were fake - they were all shot on a sound stage on Mars.

  50. John Young by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    John and Charlie exit the LM on their first EVA. Charlie sees the big crater right behind the LM, literally one foot away. Charlie says hey did you know about that big hole back here John says what h... oh yeah I was watching that during the landing.

  51. Re:Ms. Moneypenny, compose a letter to Bart Sibrel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget original sin. That was Obama too.

  52. Really nice by slartibartfastatp · · Score: 1

    It's a great pixel we can see over there.

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  53. Fake! by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    You can clearly see by its shadow that it's moving in the wind. ...

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  54. Oh say can you see... by daq+man · · Score: 1

    And the orbiter's stare, though there was no air,
    Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;

  55. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by Talderas · · Score: 2

    The niiight Santa went crazy. The night Saint Nick lost his mind.

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    "Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
  56. If it's the BBC by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Then they've decided to condemn the Capitalist Zionist illegal occupation of the Moon and therefore condemn Israel and Jews in general.

  57. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by gtall · · Score: 1

    All myths have some basis in fact; I'd like to see that fact with respect to the Easter Bunny. I'm with you on the eggs, false advertising and where has he been stealing them from, eh? No one ever asks that question.

  58. soil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was a regolith...

    >Soil is composed of particles of broken rock (parent materials) that have been altered by chemical and mechanical processes that include weathering (disintegration) with associated erosion (movement).

    1. Re:soil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      replying to myself...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regolith

      Nearly the entire lunar surface is covered with regolith, bedrock being exposed only on very steep-sided crater walls and the occasional lava channel. This regolith has been formed over the last 4.6 billion years by the impact of large and small meteoroids and the steady bombardment of micrometeoroids and solar and galactic charged particles breaking down surface rocks.

  59. Labels wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is the shadow for the flag to the left of the actual flagstick and all other shadows of the land formations to the right?

  60. We need to plant some more flags... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2012/07/old-glory-still-standing-at-most-apollo.html We need to plant some more of these! And not just on the moon.

  61. Did they spot the Hasselblads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Apollo moon missions also left behind 12 Hasselblad EDC cameras on the surface of the moon. The astronauts only brought back the film magazines.

  62. Re:Even if you came back from the dead... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Um, yes. Why is there something wrong with that? Just because people believe that God occasionally did miracles doesn't mean that they're science haters or something. It's only the God-haters saying that.

    And one of them has mod points and modded you "troll". Let them waste another point on me, because your comment was insightful and my karma is as high as you can go.

    However, it's not "god haters", you can't hate something you don't believe in. Thay're antitheists and hate, fear, and loathe religion.

    Pity them. And to the moderator who modded the parent "troll", just bvecause you disagree with someone doesn't make them a troll. Whoever moddded the parent down should never get mod points! Read the damned FAQ before you moderate.

  63. Counter oblig XKCD by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    How about http://xkcd.com/202/
    (I love the Armstrong reference)

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    No brain, no pain.
  64. lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is not physically humanly possible for anyone to go to the moon. no man or woman or monkey can get passed the van allen belts. the moon would be very cold and you would freeze to death if you survived the RADIATION from the great and powerful SUN that keeps everything in check. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!

    Thank you.

    peace and love everyone!

    1. Re:lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous Coward: listen to the tough talk!

    2. Re:lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey /.

      why are the people who wish to retain their privacy called an "Anonymous Coward" ??????? ./ is allowing them to post without signing up... why take a cheap shot at them if they want to stay private? PRIVACY does not equal "Anonymous Coward". An evil punk-ass fool shooting innocent unsuspecting, unarmed people is a coward, who wished he could stay anonymous. Don't call names. Be smart! You'll thank yourself in the future! :)

      peace and love everyone!

  65. !!!HOGWASH!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey people, this was probably made by Stanley Kubrick along with the US GOV/NASA when he made space oddessey 2001 in 67'-68' .... seriously .... FUCK HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! space race? nah, the Ruskies knew that you couldn't leave the van allen radiation belts that are keeping earth in balance. so we said it was a race to appear like the US is advanced and on top... ask the so called moon landers of the apollo in '69 what it was like on the moon???? really? bull shit. the closest anyone ever got to the moon was Alice! ;)

  66. FUCK HOLLYWOOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peace!

  67. Closer inspection shows "Made in China" by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Just like your Olympic team uniforms.

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    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.