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The Internet Archive Starts Seeding Over a Million Torrents

An anonymous reader writes with news that The Internet Archive has started seeding about 1,400,000 torrents. In addition to over a million books, the Archive is seeding thousands and thousands of films, music tracks, and live concerts. John Gilmore of the EFF said, "The Archive is helping people to understand that BitTorrent isn't just for ephemeral or dodgy items that disappear from view in a short time. BitTorrent is a great way to get and share large files that are permanently available from libraries like the Internet Archive." Brewster Kahle, founder of the Archive, told TorrentFreak, "I hope this is greeted by the BitTorrent community, as we are loving what they have built and are very glad we can populate the BitTorrent universe with library and archive materials. There is a great opportunity for symbiosis between the Libraries and Archives world and the BitTorrent communities."

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  1. Next move by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    The *AAs start suing the Internet Archive.

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    1. Re:Next move by webmistressrachel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually it provides plausible denial for encrypted torrent traffic. Breaking the encryption for purposes other than download is being complicit. It puts and end to the Star I AA's case, finally!

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    2. Re:Next move by geogob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Assorted Assholes. aka. RIAA, MPAA, GEMA... list is long.

    3. Re:Next move by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Informative

      They're German, and AA mostly stands for "Association of America".
      (The G isn't for "German"; obviously if they had that in the name it'd be "D".)

      The "bunch of assholes" part is accurate however.

    4. Re:Next move by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "flooding the torrent channels"?

      That is so not how BitTorrent works.

    5. Re:Next move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...flooding the torrent channels...

      That is so not how BitTorrent works.

      You are correct. RFC 5694 - Peer-to-Peer (P2P) Architecture: Definition, Taxonomies, Examples, and Applicability clearly states that "BitTorrent traffic MUST NOT: FLOOD the CHANNELS, CLOG the TUBES, or OVERLOAD the TRUCKS."

    6. Re:Next move by RaceProUK · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is an AA?

      It's a bit bigger than an AAA.

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  2. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh, wait, you don't want to?

    Fine, I'll ask the Russians instead. They always have what I want, in the best format possible, for free.

    This is what enrages me the most today. Everyone is busy off complaining about piracy and bullshit, when they're not making their products readily available in a format I can actually use. I've lost count how many times I've walked into BestBuy holding a bundle of $20 bills only to be turned away because they don't stock something. The last time I went there it was for a Disney movie for the kids- only to be told point blank by the salesman who went into the back looking for the Bluray disk that Disney had stopped producing them (this was a year old movie- hell, we had it in theatres up until about 4 months ago) so that they could re-release it again in a special edition in a few months and charge full pop once more.

    I've gone into more music stores then I can remember looking for CDs of good music (none of this modern day auto-tuned bullshit or the crap where there's some white boy rapping through a telephone effect patch to hard-panned deep beats), and I almost never find what I'm looking for. Then I land up having to either buy the CD from Europe or direct from the band and waiting ~4 weeks for it to show up in the mail- and I've still got to go prod the Russians for a nice FLAC copy to listen to in the meantime.

    Hell, there's been TV series I would HAPPILY pay for to watch and enjoy with my family if I could actually get them on DVD or BR. But no, because of licensing-this-and-licensing-that, once again I'm being denied the ability to PAY FOR my entertainment by the VERY SAME people who sit around bitching and complaining about piracy all day long.

    About half a year ago I got a letter from my ISP basically complaining about the fact that I'd been downloading stuff and someone else was angry about it. It was funny at the time because had I been able to get what I was looking for locally- or even off the internet and mailed to me- I wouldn't have pirated the stuff. After searching the internet for a few hours and finding nothing, I turned to my usual set of trackers and had the thing downloaded in 2 hours. It still makes me chuckle to think that someone out there was peeved enough about me downloading their product to actually complain to my ISP about it, even though their product was made of unobtanium *anywhere*.

    If these people don't want to take my money when I'm literally holding it out to them, arms outstretched, begging them to take it- and all I get in response is a resounding "NO.", I have no sympathy for any of them. The fact that BT is still going stronger then ever today is awesome. Maybe one day the corporate fuckheads of the world will wake up and figure things out, and start taking my money in a sane manner so that both parties can benefit from the exchange.

    -AC (for obvious reasons)

    1. Re:SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative

      If we are fortunate we have 80 years on this Earth. Grab a camera and go OUT THERE and write about what you see. Make a differencein your community. Write a book. But please, I beseech you, stop sitting watching pointless crap on TV.

      Why do you assume people who watch TV automatically watch pointless crap and waste their lives?

      Yes, 95% of TV is crap. But the remaining 5%, which I watch from time to time, makes me discover other parts of the world I'll never go to, explains scientific discoveries to me, teaches me history, tells me what's happening in the world, lets me practice other languages, exposes current issues in society, etc.

      The non-idiotic part of the idiot box can entertain you intelligently without taking very much of your time, if only because there isn't much of it in between ads, reality TV shows and the Olympics. Of course, if you don't dig these things, then TV certainly has the capability of making you very dumb indeed.

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    2. Re:SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

      And maybe then you'll realise how much of your short life you wasted sitting in front of the TV.

      Says the guy who wastes hours of his short life in front of a computer monitor. Oh wait, no, he's only here 5 minutes a day folks, he's not like "the rest". Sounds like someone is suffering from "I'm a special princess" syndrome. Why do you think that you are significantly different from everyone else who posts here, princess? And no, you can't have a pony.

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    3. Re:SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish we had a law saying that you can obtain something for free if the copyright holders refuse to sell it to you. This would keep a lot of this horrible litigation from ever occurring.

    4. Re:SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Intellectual property law is designed to protect the creator's right to control the property. It carries no obligation to make the property (or music or movie) available to others

      One could argue that the whole purpose of copyright is to benefit the society by stimulating the creation of new works that the society can then enjoy, but the part where the works exist but are denied to society under any terms kind of makes the copyright pointless, so the question is whether it should even apply to those cases.

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  3. Re:These Guys by jamstar7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plus, they tend to not have that annoying 'don't pirate this movie' warning and a 20 minute run of trailers for movies you don't intend to see and you can't break out to the main menu to actually, I dunno, watch the fucking movie you put in the player.

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  4. Re:And where does all this content come from? by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Movies used to be made and paid for on the basis that they'd be seen ONCE. Now the entertainment corporations want multiple kicks at the can. They want their first run theatre rights, which they've always had, PLUS DVD, Netflix, cable television, regular television and merchandizing revenue.

    You aren't being "realistic". You're not even a troll. You're an industry bum-kisser. Why don't you tell us all how much money "The Avengers" made, then try to tell us again how the industry is bleeding to death.

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  5. Re:And where does all this content come from? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Duh - "The Avengers" lost money. Every film that Hollywood makes loses money. Especially the ones with the biggest box-office numbers.

    Didn't you know, the entire industry is funded by multi-billionaire philanthropists? The only reason they insist on you buying tickets is so they can count how many peoples lives they are enriching.

  6. Sends the wrong message.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's shocking that a once responsible organisation takes it upon itself to blur the distinct in the public mind of the role played by torrents in the distribution of files. Much effort and money has been expended to educate the public and their political representitive as to the true negative impact of this technology on the economic welfare of the managers of content creators.

    This wrong minded attempt to compete directly with current content with alternatives that are outside the control of the industry leaders shows the miss use of public moneys in an othrwise open market and I feel certain that come review of that funding influent will be brought to bear that will effect either that funding or the management structure.

    Other key words: feedom, open markets, children, economy, health, security

  7. Lots of good content in there... by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... for instance, here are audio recordings of Asimov's Foundation Trilogy:
    http://archive.org/details/IsaacAsimov-TheFoundationTrilogy

    _This_ is what the civilian Internet was intended for: spreading information and culture.

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    1. Re:Lots of good content in there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Guys, the best thing about archive.org is the FACT that the musicians there specifically authorized the archive to legally provide this music free of charge. This is live recordings. You know, promoting their art by offering live music for free, to interest you enought that you buy their studio releases, see their live shows, and request them on the radio (rarer and rarer, but there are still some stations supporting indie music).

  8. Hot lists by millette · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had trouble getting to the hotlist, I was finally able to reach the page and Coral too. Here are the 2 cached pages:
    http://bt1.archive.org.nyud.net/hotlist.php
    http://bt2.archive.org.nyud.net/hotlist.php

  9. Re:And where does all this content come from? by biodata · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the best content comes from passionate people making it because it is the thing they want to do most in life. This is true in the arts, music, science, sport, and most other areas of cultural production. Recessions tend to produce a cultural flowering, because people have more time on their hands, so more time to devote to their passions. We used to need huge business enterprises to do DISTRIBUTION, but we have that sorted now thank you. Having less big budget movies being made does not make me think our societies will become a cultural desert, although, as a movie fan and someone who works in the industry I can see how you would be worried. And by the way the pirates are entirely winning, and no, it isn't meaning no new movies. This is flawed thinking.

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  10. Re:And where does all this content come from? by Card · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ever heard of Hollywood accounting?

    Hollywood accounting (also known as Hollywood bookkeeping) refers to the opaque accounting methods used by the film, video and television industry to budget and record profits for film projects. Expenditures can be inflated to reduce or eliminate the reported profit of the project thereby reducing the amount which the corporation must pay in royalties or other profit-sharing agreements, as these are based on the net profit.

    How it works

    An example is the Warner Bros. television series Babylon 5 created by J. Michael Straczynski. The series, which was profitable in each of its five seasons from 1993–1998, has garnered more than US$1 billion for Warner Bros., most recently US$500 million in DVD sales alone. But in the last profit statement given to Straczynski, Warner Bros. claimed the property was $80 million in debt. "Basically," says Straczynski, "by the terms of my contract, if a set on a WB movie burns down in Botswana, they can charge it against B5's profits."

  11. Intellectual property tax by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If copyrights are property, why aren't they taxed like property? Each owner of copyright in a work published more than x years ago would need to declare a self-assessed value of the copyright and pay a tax every few years based on a percentage of that value. Anyone else could put the work into the public domain by paying the copyright's full value to a government agency, which would perform a Fifth Amendment taking of the work's copyright.