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Hackers Hack Handcuffs at H.O.P.E. (Video)
Have you ever been handcuffed and wish you weren't? Even if you haven't, what if you plan to demonstrate at a political party convention in the next couple of weeks? Either way, you need to watch this video, shot by Timothy Lord and unknown_lamer at H.O.P.E. (Hackers on Planet Earth), which will teach you the rudiments of unhandcuffing yourself -- but on purpose leaves out the fine points. For those, you'll need to buy several pairs of handcuffs and practice on your own. At worst, you will probably embarrass yourself no more than Timothy does as he tries to shimmy his handcuffed hands from behind him to in front of him, starting at about 5:18.
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At worst, you will probably embarrass yourself no more than Timothy does as he tries
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I am so sick of partial info that "leaves out the finer points". If you want to make good information, include ALL of the information.
There are plenty of legitimate good reasons to learn how to free yourself from handcuffs. One of them is being able to call for rescue when your BDSM-obsessed girlfriend has an epileptic seizure after cuffing you up. Oh, sorry, you losers don't have girlfriends.
Geeks are so full of shit that "beating the crap out of them" takes a whole new meaning.
Breaking news from 1962..... handcuffs can be opened without a key!
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There are plenty of legitimate good reasons to learn how to free yourself from handcuffs. One of them is being able to call for rescue when your BDSM-obsessed girlfriend has an epileptic seizure after cuffing you up. Oh, sorry, you losers don't have girlfriends.
Pfft. Like any of us would want a girlfriend with such a generic fetish. Get with the times, man.
I clicked every link in the post twice before I realized where to find the video...
And now I know what it's like for grandma to "surf the Internets".
At large operations where a lot of people are detained (or even arrested), handcuffs are not used. Too expensive and too bulky to have to use a couple hundred at a time. Zip ties (nylon cable ties) are used. They are both easier and harder to escape from than real handcuffs as they can be easily cut and can generally be opened with a paper clip, but it takes help and close physical access by the other party for these. (You could probably do it on your own if you can get the paper clip to your mouth and your hands in front of you, but it still would be very tricky as the target is small and you won't be able to see it in that position.)
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Handcuffs are just for restraining drunks. For the real dangerous folks (protesters, students, etc) you use zip ties.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
There's a Stephen King book with a similar situation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald's_Game
But like many hacks, notable for being interesting rather than useful, since cops who need to restrain a lot of people at once use plastic ties, not handcuffs. For an applicable hack see the lastest episode of Breaking Bad.
...use a key.
P.S. If any of you OccuTards protest teh GOP convention, I hope you get shot and killed.
Why bother? I for one look forward to the Paulites schooling the whole convention in Robert's Rules the same way they did in Maine and Nevada. That'll make for much better entertainment (and a presidential candidate for whom I might actually want to vote) than watching the media butcher another round of Occupiers by asking them "hard" questions like "what do you want."
The student debt that they willingly incurred? That, versus the imposed British taxation... yeah, there's a difference.
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This is really low, even for you people.
Free clue - The police don't always act in our best interests.
They occasionally cuff people, throw 'em in a cage, and abandon them for days at a time. They occasionally cuff people and then beat the poor helpless bastard silly, claiming "resistance" (which if they want to claim it, at least you should have the ability to defend yourself and earn the extra charges). They occasionally torture handcuffed hippies by pepper-spray coated q-tips to the eyes.
The more ways we have to defend ourselves against the bad ones (which for the sake of argument, I'll pretend count as the minority), the better.
You do know the amount of people that were for the American revolution was very small, ...
No. About 1/3 of the Colonials supported the revolution. That is a large number. That is literally about the percentage that are registered Democrats or registered Republicans according to a recent survey.
Well, they got the "Anonymous Coward" part right on that one.
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Except it doesn't teach you anything and ignores the fact that zip ties are used far more than handcuffs for restrainng people these days. It's just another dumb video of timothy wanking around and the editors thinking this stupid shit will somehow stem the tide of user loss.
EVERY TIME I have tried to watch an embedded video on Slashdot, it has been abysmally slow to load. An almost complete waste of my time.
JUST LINK TO VIDEOS, DON'T TRY TO EMBED. You are doing your readers a disservice. Just add a link and let people watch off the original server. It works far better.
So let's say you're illegally protesting (without a permit, disturbing bystanders, not disbursing..etc) and you get cuffed by the cops.
What's the increase in penalties vs. just staying cuffed? ... a bit of research later...
Seems that you can spend up to a year in jail for what is now a misdemeanor, as opposed to getting a ticket for the infraction.
"Rudiments". Sure I know!
They're the OPPOSITE of "Sentiments"!
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Never been known to fail..."
I understand this. Student loans are shady -- granted. This does not change that fact that each person taking out the loan consciously and freely made the decision to sign on the dotted line. They knew how much debt they would be incurring, and under what interest rate they'd have to pay.
And again, the burden of student loans is not even in the same ballpark as the imposed British tyranny and taxation that sparked the Revolution.
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need to watch this video, shot by Timothy Lord and unknown_lamer at H.O.P.E. (Hackers on Planet Earth), which will teach you the rudiments of unhandcuffing yourself -- but on purpose leaves out the fine points
The student debt that they willingly incurred? That, versus the imposed British taxation... yeah, there's a difference.
Did the debt ridden students go to a private school rather than a public school? Did the debt ridden students live the "college lifestyle" and party all the time or did they get part-time and summer jobs to avoid, or limit, going into debt?
The average cost of a 4 year public school in the U.S is under $15K per year including room and board. Part-time plus summer work can significantly contribute to those costs. If the student was in a technical field then part-time/summer work may even pay for school and allow someone to graduate debt free.
If someone is $100-150K in debt from college I want a little more info before they get my sympathy.
There are plenty of legitimate good reasons to learn how to free yourself from handcuffs. One of them is being able to call for rescue when your BDSM-obsessed girlfriend has an epileptic seizure after cuffing you up. Oh, sorry, you losers don't have girlfriends.
This is Slashdot, that is a given for anyone who posts here. Hey, I see that includes you!
That's silly. Many of us know how to do all kinds of illegal things, because there are other reasons to know them, or even for no reason at all.
I'm sure you know quite a few things that could get you in trouble, but don't do anything illegal with that information.
Except it doesn't teach you anything
YMMV. I'll agree it annoys me that the glossed over "the finer points", but a lot of people tend to just assume "you can't do it" until they see someone else succeed. Knowing you can do it often counts as 99% of the challenge.
and ignores the fact that zip ties are used far more than handcuffs for restrainng people these days.
We all know how to get out of plasticuffs already (worst case, you can weaken them enough with a few good rubs against rough concrete to just break them by force, you can melt them, and if you actually have something sharp available, game over). Those don't really apply to traditional steel handcuffs.
I remember, as I perused the promissory note, I was told I would get a copy so I could read it later. Fat lot of good that does me AFTER I sign it.
" They knew how much debt they would be incurring, and under what interest rate they'd have to pay. "
But here is what many of them did not know, when they made future plans and started their post-secondary education:
(1) That the government would progressively tighten the terms and time limits for repaying the loans.
(2) That the government would progressively reduce grants and direct loans, and rely on more private loans at higher interest rates.
(3) That the economy would crash due to Wall Street greed and government collusion in same, and that they would not be able to find a decent job for years, if then.
(4) That the government would change the rules about defaults. Many of today's M.D.s and Ph.D.s defaulted on their student loans... and go unpenalized. Yet today, a liberal-arts or business graduate, with far lower debt but who can't finde a decent job, finds him- or herself in a position in which the loan can never be forgiven, bankruptcy is not an option, and their tax returns (if any) are seized by the government every year unless and until the loans are paid off.
No, they didn't necessarily know all this going in, because the government changed it gradually, year after year.
I looked at all 3x links in the article, and didn't see the video on any of them....
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
I'm one of those guys with some "double" joints, including my shoulders. The left one is really loose. I did it with handcuffs one time when I was a teenager, just to prove it could be done. I don't think I would do it now unless I was really desperate. The joint is still loose, but age makes everything harder. I also wonder about possible blood clots or other internal damage from doing it, which I didn't think about when I was a teen because all teens are immortal. :).
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To be fair, the revolutionaries may have been smaller in number, but that amounted to a greater percentage of the people. If even just 20 to 30 percent of the populous agrees with you, it's a lot easier to get stuff accomplished. Also, distance made the American revolution a lot easier for the people who lived here compared to those who lived on the other side of the ocean.
"I'm sure you know quite a few things that could get you in trouble, but don't do anything illegal with that information."
Some people just don't get that knowledge is valuable, and the same knowledge can be used by the occasional criminal for evil, but at the same time used by the majority, for doing good.
"That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved." -- Benjamin Franklin, letter to Benjamin Vaughan, March 14, 1785.
Every single person should have reasonable means of getting a good education.
It is so important that many nations consider it a basic human right.
Yes, that's why an English student in England is required to pay up to £9,000 a year to attend each course while a Scottish student in England isn't required to pay a penny (yes, makes fuck all sense but there it is).
That includes progressing all the way to a master degree not being a significant financial investment.
Before you ask, no spending decades to get one or a whole bunch of them wouldn't be covered by that.
It's been the same for as long as I can remember. Every English person I know who has gone through an English university has finished up an average £40k in debt. This is not isolated. I'm sure it is a similar story elsewhere.
Its simply one of the easiest ways to allow everyone to move socially upwards - or - downwards based on their own achievements.
Limiting the means of your people to aquire education is somewhere between extremely shortsighted, outright evil or in violation of human rights.
...What, the UK is the yardstick in respecting Human Rights? Not in your lifetime.
If you rely on science and creativity you also don't want to artificially limit education.
Education is somewhat significant and long term investment but it will always pay off well for society.
When a society limits higher education to the wealthy and elite, you'll end up nobility and peasants after a short time.
Oh, like we have now, you mean...
Instead you could have a nation of opportunities for everyone, even those born into poor families.
But you chose to turn education into a business plan, to make profits by running schools or at the very least continue to let it happen.
Aha! Now you're getting it!
You, as a society, deserve what you'll get for that decision.
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
Except it doesn't teach you anything and ignores the fact that zip ties are used far more than handcuffs for restrainng people these days. It's just another dumb video of timothy wanking around and the editors thinking this stupid shit will somehow stem the tide of user loss.
Zip ties use the same principle as handcuffs and a shim is equally as effective. If you're going to bash Timothy, you should at least try not to look like an idiot.
Here is a link to a torrent in case you, like me, don't allow sites to used "local storage" via Flash but you still want to see the video.
An agreement only one side can change whenever they desire is no agreement at all.
I did not kill my wife and then jump into the waterfall.
Yes, teach people how to go from being arrested for committing a misdemeanor which might amount to time served and might be dismissed to committing several felonies which can earn one a stiff fine, a lengthy jail sentence or prison time, and possibly get them shot in the process. Wonderful idea, keep up the good work.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
Wait, how does an M.D. or Ph. D get to default on a loan without penalty.
This is relevant to my interests.
I don't know about the USA, but where I live escaping as such is not illegal.
However, killing/kidnapping/threatening a guard or destroying state property and many other means of escaping are illegal, as is helping somebody to escape.
Don't follow the link, or you'll be sorry.
"Wait, how does an M.D. or Ph. D get to default on a loan without penalty."
I don't think they can, anymore. That was my point. Things were a lot different when they were in school.
Which is why a lot of old-schoolers should be more careful with their criticisms. The world is a much different place today.
"Wait, how does an M.D. or Ph. D get to default on a loan without penalty."
Here is one of the reasons, to be more specific:
Once upon a time, declaring bankruptcy could free you from your student loans. But not today.
The things I am not supposed to know are the most interesting to me, because they're important enough that someone thinks I shouldn't know them.
... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about.
what do you mean, you people?
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Except it doesn't teach you anything and ignores the fact that zip ties are used far more than handcuffs for restrainng people these days.
As wikipedia says, [citation needed]. Zip ties are only used for those rare occasions that they need to cuff dozens of suspects at once. If you get DUI, they're not going to use zip ties, they'll use plain old reuseable handcuffs. For ordinary arrests, handcuffs are much cheaper, since they're reusable.
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none of this will work. (Don't ask how I know...)
When the U.S. Marshals cuff you for transport, you get leg irons plus handcuffs plus a key-locked box placed over the handcuffs so you can't get access to the handcuffs at all. Good luck getting out of that unless you're Houdini (or at least well-trained in escape magic and have the proper tools secreted up your butt.)
However, local cops do screw up. A handcuff key stuffed in a money belt behind you is quite likely to be missed in a frisk, even if they suspect you have hidden weapons (again, don't ask how I know.) If you're cuffed with your hands behind you or if you have such a key hidden both in front and behind you, your odds improve.
There are little plastic handcuff keys being sold now (although supposedly only to law enforcement) which are very small and not detectible by magnetic search. Buy (or make) a couple and stash them in your money belt or taped to your tool or whatever.
Keep in mind that if you're being transported by two cops, unless you have a derringer stuffed up your butt, you're likely to get shot once you pick the cuffs and try to flee... When the Marshals transport you, there's usually a chase car following behind the transport van, too.
If you're being flown somewhere, the Marshals will usually have several Marshals with shotguns standing around when you're being moved from the van to the plane. So unless you're Bruce Payne in the movie "Passenger 57" (and that was a commercial flight, not a Marshals Service flight), or Nick Gage in "Con Air", you're not likely to beat that either.
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Not everyone lives in the Utopia of the United States of America where handcuffs are only applied with lovingkindness and for indisputable reasons of Social Good.
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Seems like a monumentally bad idea to try to get out of cuffs. I've been told by a deputy friend that as soon as one cuff is still on your wrist, and the other is hanging, you now have possession of a deadly weapon.
As for the keys, How much you wanna bet that they can't make a "possession of burglary tools" charge stick if you're carrying lock picks of any kind?
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While I don't deny that sometimes people are arrested who have broken no law, I still object to the summary's implication that protesting=getting arrested. Glamorizing getting arrested and even beaten by the police is a highly irresponsible tactic used by the left. If you exercise your constitutional rights, break now laws, and still get arrested, then I support you for standing up for you rights (although as far as I've seen this isn't that common). If you commit trespass, disobey lawful orders from the police, or illegally block traffic or pedestrians, then even if your protest is otherwise "nonviolent" you are asking to get arrested because you are breaking the law.
That's why the 'in' thing to do these days is to keep really good credit throughout college, spend marginally and, upon graduation, have a nest egg to put towards a house to live in for the next 7 years.
Then, put as much if not all of your student loan debt on credit cards and stop paying them.
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They occasionally cuff people, throw 'em in a cage, and abandon them for days at a time. They occasionally cuff people and then beat the poor helpless bastard silly, claiming "resistance" ...
and once you break free of your handcuffs the cops are going to turn all sweetness and light?
remember those old S.W.A.T games where you were taught to restrain everyone caught up in a raid, suspects, hostages and innocent bystanders alike --- or risk losing control of the situation?
you should have the ability to defend yourself and earn the extra charges
assume you survive being tasered, clubbed, choked, or shot by a cop whose entire training is focused on bringing you down quickly.
Its not that people turned away from the idea of Wall Street and banking reform. Its that people turned away from the Occupy Movement as the vehicle to promote such reforms.
Our friend anecdotes are not much of a rebuttal against a formal survey conducted by a reputable organization like Gallop.
"That's why the 'in' thing to do these days is to keep really good credit throughout college, spend marginally and, upon graduation, have a nest egg to put towards a house to live in for the next 7 years."
At first I thought that either you didn't read my original comment, or you completely missed my point.
:o) But the problem is that only a very small minority of students have enough credit (even if it is good) to cover their student loans when they graduate.
I will repeat in different words: MANY of the students GP was criticizing found that the circumstances that were prevailing when they PLANNED and started college, were not the same once they graduated. Because over that time, the rules have changed.
While they were in school, they were faced with the choice of either biting the bullet and accepting the new, changed circumstances, and hoping for the best, or dropping out of school.
Then, when they got out of school, they discovered that the economy was in the toilet and there were no longer any jobs available for new graduates in their profession.
You do make a good point about credit cards.
Yes, I understood your full post. I was hit by it, myself. I doubled under on the course load and got done in 3 years, paying the excess over loans out of pocket to avoid the drastic changes.
There was a short period of time there where, if you were making regular student loan payments (ie $100 here and there) while in school, when you got out, you'd immediately get slammed with CC offers. There was a point in time when I had 3 or 4 different Visa cards, for instance. An unscrupulous person
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