Judge Orders Release of Ex-Marine Detained Over Facebook Posts
Penurious Penguin writes "A few days ago, news of an ex-marine detained for his Facebook posts reached far and wide throughout the interweb. It was a hotly debated affair and considered from many perspectives. Today, a judge has ordered the release of Brandon Raub, citing a lack of facts regarding the detention. It's a strange case, undoubtedly, but perhaps even stranger when taking into account a few things. For example, Raub reportedly made claims that one of the psychiatrists involved in the case threatened him with forced medication. For history polymaths, government proposals of forced medication may not be a surprise; you may remember the case of Susan Lindauer. The situation may also remind of 2009, when Fusion Centers targeted Ron Paul supporters, certain universities, and conspiracy theorists as threats to national security, even logging anti death-penalty and anti-war activists into federal terrorism databases. Personally, I find myself wondering what sorts of epic dangers someone like Noam Chomsky might seem to pose after a stressful day and a few beers, if overheard by certain departments."
I don't know if this guy was ever a real threat to anyone or not, but he certainly isn't some super-patriot or free speech hero. He's mentally ill, and really does need help (even if you can't force it). The guy seriously believes that George W. Bush is living in a secret castle in Colorado where he rapes and sacrifices children. He also believes that Bush not only planned 9-11, but serves a world shadow government who also seem to spend most of their time raping and sacrificing children (when they're not planning world domination, I guess).
Whatever you think of the free speech issues involved, please don't celebrate this dude. He's very sick and needs help.
What political party do you join when you don't like Bible-thumpers *or* hippies?
... bizarre as his fantasy world.
i am so very tired....
A polymath in a specific subject?
Always Faithful.
sudo make me a sandwich
More troops are coming home. A lot of them spent a lot of time overseas, and despite the intense media spin that says otherwise, we did some really messed up shit over there.
We took bright-eyed young people raised in an age of hope and peace and dropped them in to the middle of a secratarian human rights mess and forced them to watch the destruction of countless families and lives first hand.. And often by actions of their own hands.
Now that they're home we don't need them anymore, and we'll tell them to suck it up and deal with it. We're sorry you had to watch your buddies get blown up by a roadside bomb. We're sorry you had to watch some child bleed out and die in your arms. We just don't want to pay for the costs of treating your trauma.
Most Slashdotters are for mandatory vaccinations, so why would you ever be against forced medication? Clearly, these people are a danger to society.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
not ex-Marine
Semper Fidelis would be Latin for Always Faithful.
As this is the Marine Corps Motto if you say this in say a tavern you will most likely hear Ho-Ah! from a number of folks (marines tend to run in groups).
Also if you forget a marines birthday then you can always use November 10 as a "fallback" since that is the Marine Birthday (bonus note do not "crash' those parties since multiple folks WILL BE ARMED).
Any person using FTFY or editing my postings agrees to a US$50.00 charge
The June 2010 issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry published a study of 18,300 Army soldiers screened at 3 and 12 month intervals following deployment in Iraq. The study found that using “the least stringent definition” for PTSD, rates now range between 20 and 30 percent, and depression rates are at 11.5 and 16 percent.[2] Together this accounts for almost a third of our troops now suffering serious functional mental impairment. source
sysadmins and parents of newborns get the same amount of sleep.
He should have an offer of the very best help possible, paid for by the same people who paid for him being a marine.
I'm not so sure that he should be forced into treatment until and unless he causes harm, not just talk. That opens up for Kafkanesque abuse.
but it's not what he said that scared the government.
It's that he's a Marine and said it.
1,000 crazy truthers are nothing compared to one determined Marine.
They're using their grammar skills there.
No, he's too rich to be crazy, he's therefore "just" eccentric.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
Sick or not, intellectually he's spot on. Reread his concerns about US and war and taxes.
Then pretend you're a large scale fraudster with control over (literally) trillions of dollars, and key control points peppered throughout US government. Then consider how YOU would design and run a large scale fraud (Commons Fraud). Then consider how YOU would use your government control points to fleece unwitting tax payers out of billions and trillions of dollars per year.
Perhaps you see Brandon Raub's concerns. If not, you're an example of when, why, and how democracy fails. In theory, every patriotic citizen should be deathly concerned that democracy has been turned on its head to use as a vehicle for overwhelming fraud.
Brandon Raub is concerned, but you're not. Really? Who's nuts?
Also kudos to Brandon Raub for his psychological fortitude. Soldiers, military families, and military friends are all very susceptible to the state of denial about war corruption because they are likely to have lost close ones to such crime. That's a heavy and for some insurmountable emotional and psychological burden to overcome with intellect. Since these frauds typically involve going to war unnecessarily, Brandon Raub has already transcended the typical emotional, patriotic, psychological trap of war veteran victims (and their families and friends).
Ditto the war veteran actors and consultants on movies like "The Green Zone" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Zone_(film)].
Casualties to fraudster wars are horribly tragic victims of terribly predatory faceless fraud run abusing overwhelming government power. So, the fact that a military veteran (Brandon) has transcended this psychological trap speaks to his intellectual stamina. Is he crazy? His friends don't think so. Even the ones who are military veterans, but you do?
About 911, Raub points out that a building fell down all on its own. Until you (or someone) could explain that glaring incongruity definitively, don't say he's nuts for calling 911 an inside job. 911 adds up far more likely as an inside job courtesy a US intelligence agent (Osama bin Laden as anti-Russian agent repurposed as scape goat). Recall 911 launched several meaningless and misguided wars with HUGE impact on USA debt --- a basic money laundering / extortion / embezzlement scheme from American taxpayer wallets to stracketeer bank accounts. That's all Brandon Raub is pointing out... and he's not alone.
So, next time you hear that the 911 wars were a farce, and that 911 was more than likely an inside job, think twice.
When you recall that the Bush family is at the heart of several election rigging schemes, think twice.
When you consider that BushLeague family and associates installed Supreme Court Justices who are central to the most ludicrous SCOTUS opinions in the nation's history (including GWBush reelection as President), think twice.
When you consider GWBush started a war (in retrospect) on total pretense (e.g., see movie "The Green Zone" with Matt Damon for docufiction of what must have happened regarding WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction farce) on the ground in Iraq), think twice.
And in case you didn't know that the Bush family has been linked to the similar behavior and motive for WWII (financing Nazi Germany war machine), i.e., across multiple generations, think twice.
Once you consider all that, it makes perfect sense that the Bush family would have an out of country (somewhere in South America) family compound for when all the proverbial shit hits the fan. Because when you put 2+2 together, some superficially crazy shit starts to make perfect sense. Which is probably why Brandon Raub says we're headed for a revolution.
You see, when democracy (or any government) breaks down --- a growing number of citizens realize their government is a vehicle for fraud and there's NOTHING we can do about it --- it's just a matter of time until a critical mass of knowledge spreads and ignites. History repeats itself, and our "democracy
I'm not dumb enough to start defending Bush's intelligence, but let me tell you something: there are lots of different ways to be dumb. Some people think I am some kind of raging genius (as if), not realizing how they routinely take certain skills & knowledge for granted which totally flummox me. But yeah: vice versa, too: I can do things they literally aren't able to imagine.
That is, I'm both dumb and smart. Or to put another way...
I am dumb enough to start defending components of Bush's intelligence. As weird as it is, that guy knew how to do whatever it is that it takes, to get elected president. And even weirder, he got re-elected .. after wasting shitloads of tax money on a totally useless war (which everyone knew in advance would be useless) .. and he was re-elected by supposedly conservative party! That's not "intelligence" as most of us here on /. define it, and yet if I ask you how to do it, I think you'd probably come up with a total blank.
I have talked to seemingly-rational people, who it turns out practice religion.
I have talked to people who are smart enough to perform eye surgery, and dumb enough to smoke cigarettes. And others who are smart enough to not smoke, but dumb enough to buy Apple phones.
There is no one-dimensional continuum of stupidity; it's multi-dimensional and complex. There is almost nothing that I would just blanket assume GWB is too dumb for.
OTOH, GWB really is too dumb for what is being discussed. So bad example but my point is .. oh, never mind.
Lawyer from The Rutherford Institute talks about the case on Alex Jones Show.
Psychiatrist Threatens & Terrorizes Marine Over 9/11 Facebook Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XuQWsXsZo&feature=g-all-u
Talks about that Civil liberties in the US is getting attacked, and that Veterans are getting targeted by government harassment.
"The Rutherford Institute is a non-profit organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia dedicated to the defense of civil liberties and human rights. The organization was founded by its current president, John W. Whitehead, in 1982.[1] The Rutherford Institute offers free legal services to those who have had their rights threatened or violated. The Rutherford Institute has a network of affiliate attorneys across the United States and funds its efforts through donations. In addition to its offer of legal services, the organization offers free educational materials for those interested in the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutherford_Institute