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Windows 8 Is 'a Work of Art.' But It's No Linux
colinneagle writes "Earlier this week I installed the final version of Windows 8. And it is awesome. That's not a joke. Windows 8 is absolutely, unequivocally stellar. And yet, at the end of the day, I am right back to using Linux. Why is that? What is it about Linux that makes me so excited to use it — even while enjoying another operating system that I view as, in all seriousness, a work of art? Why do I not simply install Windows 8 on every machine I own and be happy with it? For me, it's the ability to slowly chip away and remove items from your user interface until you are left with only want you want, and nothing more. The option of looking at an item on the screen, right clicking on it, and declaring to said item 'Listen up, mister Thing-On-My-Screen. I don't want you anymore. Be gone!' Panels, bars, docks, launchers, widgets, gadgets – whatever is on your screen, there is probably a way to send it to whatever form of the afterlife is reserved for unwanted Desktop Crud. And, I'll tell you this right now – as great as it is, you don't find a whole lot of 'Right click, Remove Panel' in Windows 8."
I don't visit a news site for opinion pieces.
I know others will say the same thing. But I wanted to say it first if that's possible.
On my list of most annoying things about GNOME 3's GNOME shell is that I can't remove or customize the bar on the top... not easily anyway.
I want my old panels back.
Then beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder, and you need to get your eyes checked.
Art is in the eye of the beholder.
Personally I think it's a piece of crap.
Of course, if you definition of 'art' is 'something that evokes and emotional response', then I guess it's art: it evokes a feeling of disgust and revoltion in me, I want to get it as far away from me (and my equipment) as possible.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
you're lame; linux isn't about the UI dillhole.
I kid you not, the copy file progress dialog in Windows 8 is a thing of beauty. If you havenâ(TM)t seen it in action, and you are a fan of cool user interfaces, you owe it to yourself. To say I am impressed with what the team at Microsoft has accomplished would be a massive understatement.
So I take this to mean that MS did not fix the dialog's 5000% difference between guesstimated time and actual transfer time?
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
Paid Troll anyone?
'Work of Art' is an interesting choice of words. The art world is full of examples of 'art' that shocks and offends the viewer for precisely that purpose.
So when someone says Windows 8 is a 'Work of Art' I have to ask "Do you mean The Mona Lisa or L.H.O.O.Q.?"
OS-X is almost entirely free of OS-derived graphical gunk. You have the desktop (which can be blank), and the doc (which can be hidden), and a few things along the menu bar in the upper right hand corner (which can be hidden).
Other than that, it already meets his "graphical gunk free" ideal.
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I liked most things about win8. It boots SO fast compared to win7. {IMHO} MS shouldn't have put such an emphasis on touchscreen or at least make it configurable for "normal" desktop / tablet use.
...but this piece just reeks of trolling the Windows crowd. Why do we need a multi-hundred word paragraph explaining that you can hide items in Linux but not in Windows? An even better question: what reason do we have to be interested in colinneagle's opinion? It's neither insightful nor unique, let alone relevant to most people, since this is not the feature that will make or break the deal for the vast majority of users choosing between the two OSes. I'm glad he's been able to make a decision for himself, but why should a typical nerd be interested in this opinion piece?
not a troll, maybe a stealth shill. Look at the print in bold:
That's not a joke. Windows 8 is absolutely, unequivocally stellar.
It boots fast, looks great and, right out of the gate, fully supports every bell and whistle on my laptop (including the touch screen). Applications launch faster, and are generally more responsive, than I have ever seen on this piece of hardware. Hell, I even like the copy file dialog.
As I sat in traffic yesterday for a few hours -- as those of us in Seattle seem to enjoy doing so much -- I thought long and hard about this.
>And it is awesome.
Can't argue with that.
Tech-savvy user prefer highly-configurable things that can be customized by tech-savvy users and dislikes things designed to be used as-is by computer idiots. News at 10...
What I'm really wondering though is whether this "article" is a cleverly disguise Windows 8 plug: the Linux bit is there to prevent the poster for being marked as a Microsoft shill, while the real message is "Windows 8 is a work of art". Because really, that's the only thing people who are afraid of Linux will read.
Linux lovers who find Windows 8 a work of art seem suspicious to me...
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Most artists don't like people messing with their artworks. So maybe the lack of customizability is a reflection of that. Linux OTOH is more like a mechanic's (or artist's, for that matter) toolbox. It usually looks like shit, but it can take a beating and still get the job done. And nobody is going to look at you funny if you rearrange things to your liking.
I can certainly understand the author. My home looks a lot more like a toolbox filled with random useful (and some not so useful) things than an architecture exhibit. And no matter how pretty they may look, I wouldn't want to live in one.
Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
Have gnu, will travel.
There was one comment from a keynote speech by John Carmack a few week ago. And for all the rest of the talk that was brilliant, this comment was the most relevant. And that was that he an iD recently switched from Windows Xp to Windows 7. And that yeah, it was nice. It was a bit better in a lot of areas, it did one technical thing a lot better. But for the most part, he just didn't care.
And for that matter neither did I when I made the same switch. Certainly, I wouldn't go back if I were just given a free and clear choice. But really, there's just not a whole lot there, to ANY new iteration of ANY operating system. It doesn't matter what you're a fan of, because each new iteration is just something of an update, for compatibility with whatever new hardware is out. For the most part there's nothing there to get excited about, I mean we're down to arguing tiny UI semantics. Windows 8, a work of art? It doesn't look that much different than Windows 7, nor does it do almost anything different. In fact the biggest change, of the start menu to start screen, is a bit worse for some people. But only a bit, so who cares?
So, why are people excited? Because we're nerds, because we're reading comments on /. and the internet is a great place to argue. But really, it doesn't matter that much. In fact it's beginning to matter so little that I'm wondering if it's worth it to even have inane arguments over anymore. And sure, it's a pastime as boring and pointless to outsiders as baseball is to many. But what I'm saying here is, arguments over the latest OS update are beginning to smell like fans arguing over a handful of old, decrepit has been teams, when there's a bunch of younger, more exciting lineups out there that could be providing a lot more entertainment.
And yet, at the end of the day, I am right back to using Linux. Why is that?
Because you're a human being and we all have different opinions. For some reason yours have been promoted to a Slashdot article, but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
bloody taco shill.
Some people find their tools a source of endless excitement. A word for such people is "wankers".
I think the point about the article is made...
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The "Mona Lisa" is a work of art, but I can't use it to get my work done. I want a *tool*.
No it is not, you fscking moron. Ulgh...
If you mod this down, may God strike you dead at once.
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You and I are both universe. We all are. So why get 'personal'?
Interesting conflict between post content & signature.
I could explain why I wrote that, but the fact remains that you are right ;-)
Here be signatures
But honestly, what is attractive about windows 8? I admit, I have never used it. But to me it looks god-awful. Just terrible. A completely disorganized mish-mash of ugly tiles. I look at it and can't see how it's supposed to work.
You've heard the advice "make it so simple a 5-year-old could use it", right? Well, unfortunately the head of Windows development is a bit hard of hearing - he thought they said "make it look like a 5-year-old designed it".
#DeleteChrome
Now hold on a minute, there's lots of different kinds of art.
Is it art, as in Manzoni's "Merda d'artista"?
I rarely use Windows and then only because something absolutely requires it. Like the TFA author, removing unwanted cruft from the desktop (and system) is a key reason I dislike Windows. For example, Windows Update repeatedly nagged to install Windows Media Player 11 (the newest one) which I finally did to watch (I thought) DVDs. However, as many of you probably know, Windows Media Player 11 will NOT play DVDs. Instead, it advises you that the necessary decoder is not present on the system and points you to places where you can purchase the decoder 'plugin' for a price of anywhere from $15 to $30. Okay, fine, now it's time to dump (uninstall) the newly-installed Media Player 11 but...not so easy is that. It can only be removed by (according to Microsoft) either 1) booting to safe mode and running something called 'appwiz.cpl' or, if 1) doesn't work, then 2) running something as '%windir%\$ntUninstallwmp11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe'. This is just one small example but, generally, Microsoft decides what the user should install, use and see and then makes it extremely difficult for you if you try to stray off of the reservation.
Yes. I even claim it's modern art. Let's see:
Looks kinda pretty or cool? Check.
Makes people think and ponder about its purpose? Check.
Makes people talk about it? Check.
Serves no practical purpose? Check.
Is overpriced eye candy? Check.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
...interesting customization for Windows 8
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9225016/Free_tool_restores_Start_button_to_Windows_8
It is made by the same people who made Window Blinds and it supposedly adds a "Start" button to Windows 8. So if you are one of those people that misses the "Start" button then your answer lies above.