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NYC Taxi Commission Nixes Cab-Hailing Apps

An anonymous reader writes "Uber is a company that creates apps to connect taxi and limo drivers with potential passengers. They've been rapidly expanding their service to cities across the country, but they're now getting pushback from New York City. This week the NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission issued a public notice saying, 'A driver must not use any electronic communication device (PDF), including a cell phone or smartphone running a hail or payment app, while operating a taxicab.' The commission says its current contractual obligations forbid the use of such technology."

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  1. "while operating a taxicab" by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They can use it while they're parked waiting for a fare, but not while driving. Makes sense for safety.

    1. Re:"while operating a taxicab" by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somebody has to pay for their call center.

      This makes no sense. The call center is a cost sink for the taxi company. They should be glad to be rid of it.

      I think the real reason may have something to do with independent taxis competing on an equal footing with bigger fleets.

  2. TLC by clarkkent09 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is there a commission to decide whether I can drive you from A to B for a fee and whether you can call or text me on the phone to arrange it and to whom I have to pay a very substantial annual fee for the privilege of doing so? The answer: its a legalized racket, just like all business licensing.

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    1. Re:TLC by khallow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And then when New York's streets are chocked cabs and congestion sucks

      You probably just described New York City for the past two hundred years. While I admire someone who can actually find a problem and recognize it is a problem, who seriously believes that rigging the cab market so that it is deliberately overpriced and uncompetitive is in any way solving congestion?

  3. Lame by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So if you can't use electronics, how do you dispatch them? Do they return to the depot after every pickup to receive little strips of paper? (-_-)

    Another case of capitalism gone full retard -- "We forbid you to use anything that could make your job more efficient and convenient for your customers!"

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    1. Re:Lame by BlueStrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Another case of government corruption & cronyism gone full retard

      FTFY

      These regulations have nothing whatsoever to do with capitalism, except that they contribute to distorting, corrupting, abusing, impeding, and destroying capitalism.

      Strat

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    2. Re:Lame by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The medallions are owned by Regular people and very expensive so there are lots of interests in keeping the system as it is

      The medallions are owned by Really Rich people and are extremely expensive so there are lots of interests in keeping the system as it is.
      In 2012, the lowest winning bid for a medallion was $1.201 million
      The Regular people who drive cabs have to lease from millionaires who can afford the medallion.

      The NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission screwed things up in in the early 80s when it allowed cabbies to be treated as independent contractors, which broke the taxi union and changed the balance of power.
      Combine that with the few (if any) new medallions issued and you essentially have a cartel of medallion owners that are screwing the drivers and the public.

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  4. Re:Turf Wars ... limo vs cabs by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Basically a cabbie in new york, according to regulations, HAS to stop for anybody that hails them.

    So bascially, this app makes cabbies into a pusedo limo service. They by pass people on the street hailing them, and go pick up the appointment.

    but what is boils down to is, once again, government regulations stopping free enterprise. They need to drop this silly non-sense about limo service vs taxi service.

    If you don't understand why taxis are legally required to pick up anyone hailing them,
    then I guess this doesn't make sense and you can shoehorn this into the traditional
    "government regulations are stifling free enterprise" world view.

    There's a reason that the police and Taxi & Limosine Commision conducts sting operations to make sure that drivers are following the law.
    The main ones being: you can't charge handicapped passengers more, you can't kick someone out for wanting to go to a hospital,
    you can't discriminate based on race, and you can't refuse service based on destination.

    More often than not, regulations are there because "free enterprise" misbehaved,
    not because the big bad government is out to stop free enterprises from making money.

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  5. Re:Turf Wars ... limo vs cabs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, 'cause the absolute first thing I do when a capital intensive business pisses me off is to start my own competing business. You should see my empire now. I've got my own cell phone company, taxi and limo company, electric power utility, food distribution service, and of course health care system. Oh, wait, I can't just start those things up on my own, so my choices are to have a society with rules or just take whatever corporations and business owners think I deserve. Guess which one serves my interests better?

    Libertarian types can be such dumbasses sometimes,

  6. Re:Turf Wars ... limo vs cabs by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More often than not, these well-meaning regulations are twisted to serve special interests once the regulations have outlived their useful purpose.

    Are you claiming that the regulations requiring taxis to pick up all passengers has outlived its useful purpose?
    I cannot deny that regulations can end up serving special interests instead of the general public.
    My rebuttal is that we should have better regulation, not no regulation.

    In this particular case, the regulations governing taxis generally serve the public and the regulations should remain that way.

    The difference is, with free enterprise, you can opt out of a corrupt or discriminatory business or even create your own competing one.

    The balance of power is not equal between someone who wants a service and someone who provides a service.
    This is why we have regulations.

    Without regulations, there are monopolies and oligopies, not competition and free markets.
    This is what history shows us and ideology frequently strives to ignore or deny.

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  7. Defnition of "Electronic Communication Device"? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... A driver must not use any electronic communication device ...

    I am not from New York, but I had been to New York (and NYC) many times, and have lost count of the times I took NYC cabs
     
    I remember that in the NY cabs that I were in, even during pre-cellphone era, there was already an "electronic communication device" - a CB-radio
     
    And the cabbies were using it to communicate with their HQ and to others, even while they were zig-zagging in and out of the city traffic!!
     
    It's totally ridiculous to place a ban on the use of "electronic communication device" while they were already using "electronic communication devices" !
     
    Unless of course, the CB radio they were using were not electronics - maybe they are still using vacuum tubes in their CeeBees
     

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    1. Re:Defnition of "Electronic Communication Device"? by tsotha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe so, but you can use a radio without taking your eyes off traffic. How many of those cab-hailing apps are the same?