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Intel Says Clover Trail Atom CPU Won't Work With Linux

girlmad tips this news from the Inquirer: "Intel's Clover Trail Atom processor can be seen in various non-descript laptops around IDF and the firm provided a lot of architectural details on the chip, confirming details such as dual-core and a number of power states. However Intel said Clover Trail 'is a Windows 8 chip' and that 'the chip cannot run Linux.' While Intel's claim that Clover Trail won't run Linux is not quite true — after all, it is an x86 instruction set, so there is no major reason why the Linux kernel and userland will not run — given that the firm will not support it, device makers are unlikely to produce Linux Clover Trail devices for their own support reasons."

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  1. They've got it backwards. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Chips aren't exactly designed to "run Linux" or any other OS. It's Linux that supports CPUs.. NOT the other way around.

    All this means, is that Intel doesn't want to help. It does not mean it won't run Linux. Linux always finds a way to work.

  2. Qui Bono? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't see what possible benefit it is to Intel to deliberately limit the market for their processors. Unless they are doing this for Microsoft's benefit, in which case, surely, there are anti-trust implications?

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    1. Re:Qui Bono? by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, It's just another case of Intel trying to steer the market in a certain (advantageous to Intel) direction. And the "cannot run" is a red herring, the real issue is "will not support"; and it's not so much "Linux" as "Android" that'll be lacking that support.

  3. Re:antitrust issues? by macromorgan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doubt it. They can choose to support or not support whatever they want. They just can't actively use their current monopoly position to harm competition in another market (operating systems). If they put in some special instructions that actively sabotage the Linux kernel from running, that would be one thing. From what it sounds like though, they are merely not providing drivers/source code for Linux for some of the CPU features for this platform. Of course since a lot of geeks will try to get Linux running on a toaster for the lulz, I expect this to only be a short-term hindrance.

  4. Re:antitrust issues? by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Not supported" is very different from "Can't run Linux". I would call this monopoly abuse.

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  5. Re:Really, Linux won't (currently) support CT by Truekaiser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They stated this is a windows 8 only chip. So they won't release specs for other operating systems to use this. Also since windows 8 'require's' the uefi secure boot option, how much do you want to bet intel made Clover trail boards 'won't' support either disabling it nor adding your own keys?

    This won't stop linux dev's. Saying something can't work is a challenge to some of them. it's just intel won't provide patches for the in kernal systems to get it running, they might even go as far as to stop such patches being added if they actually 'did' make an agreement with microsoft to make this a 'windows 8 only' chip.

  6. Intel and Microsoft teaming up to herd the masses by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...into the Appelsk walled garden that Windows 8 appears to be heralding in (Windows Store only apps, "for your own security, comfort and ease of use", coming to you in Windows 8.5/9). Last thing our walled gardeners want is an alternative OS weed like Linux, working perfectly on the same hardware...

  7. Re:antitrust issues? by postbigbang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's say the reason is either one.

    Let's say that Intel wants to limit the audience for the chip, and cut their own sales. Let's say that AMD, VIA, and the ARMs makers will be delighted to fill in any vacuum.

    Do.We.Care?

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  8. Re:antitrust issues? by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually it means Intel won't support running Linux on it.

    Apparently Wintel is alive and well.

  9. Re:Anything can run linux by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All intel has done now is simply issued a challenge...

    Well, that's not all they've done. They've also pissed away a lot of karma with the Linux community.

  10. Re:antitrust issues? by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "There aren't any antitrust issues here."

    Bullshit, Intel is falsely advertising that a chip with all the standard (for today) x86 instructions will not run Linux, which is an x86 compatible kernel, and says that the chip is for Windows 8. Intel is colluding with Microsoft in this instance to create an anticompetitive market.

    FALSE ADVERTISING IS STILL ILLEGAL AND AN ANTITRUST ISSUE WHEN A CONVICTED MONOPOLIST IS INVOLVED.

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