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Are SSDs Finally Worth the Money?

Lucas123 writes "The price of 2.5-in solid state drives have dropped by 3X in three years, making many of the most popular models less than $1 per gigabyte or about 74 cents per gig. Hybrid drives, which include a small amount of NAND flash cache alongside spinning disk, in contrast have reached near price parity with hard drives that hover around the .23 cents per gig. While HDDs cannot compare to SSDs in terms of IOPS generated when used in a storage array or server, it's debatable whether they offer performance increases in a laptop significant enough that justify paying three times as much compared with a high-end a hard drive or a hybrid drive. For example, an Intel 520 Series SSD has a max sequential read speed of 456MB/sec compared to a WD Black's 122MB/sec. The SSD boots up in 9 seconds compared to the HDD's 21 seconds and the hybrid drive's 12-second time. So the question becomes, should you pay three times as much for an SSD for twice the performance, or almost the same speeds when compared to a hybrid drive?"

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  1. In a laptop performance isn't the only issue by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember, no spinning platter means you don't have to worry about bumping a gyroscope - an SSD is inherently more shock resistant. I'm under the belief an SSD uses less power than a HDD.

    I have one SSD. It's in my netbook, I removed my perfectly functional factory HDD and replaced it with a smaller SSD since I really don't need my storage space, 90% of what I do with my netbook is on the web browser, and a netbook with Kubuntu and the netbook/tablet desktop is way cheaper than a Chrome book. I wish those were cheaper, I would practically be a marketing exec for those without the outrageous pricetag, but never mind that.

    There's advantages other than performance to an SSD.

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    1. Re:In a laptop performance isn't the only issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bingo - drop survivability and heat generation. These are two of the best reasons to use SSD in a laptop, and not HDD. Nothing to do with performance.

    2. Re:In a laptop performance isn't the only issue by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, add to that noise. You don't really notice how noisy an HDD is until it's silent.

    3. Re:In a laptop performance isn't the only issue by zeronitro · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One interesting side effect of having a legitimately fast SSD is even though you save power power on not spinning a platter around you can end up using that power (or more) with increased CPU usage. Ex: Semi-Random reads from mechanical drive might be pulling data ~40MB/sec on a good day... the CPU doesn't have a lot to process at once or just does in chunks so all that nice power saving tech comes into play (reduced clock or cores or what have you). Now, pop an SSD in and start getting 300-500MB+ semi-random read speeds and your CPU will find itself a hell of a lot more busy having to actually process all of that.

      It's a good "problem" to have, if you can even call it a problem ;)

  2. OP obviously has not used an SSD before... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I bought my first SSD-equipped laptop back in 2007. It was a Dell XPS. The laptop still works great today and flies in comparison to this brand new, work-issued HP laptop -- even with it's 7200rpm drive.

    There isn't any comparison whatsoever. And throughput is almost moot, it's the IOPS that matter.

    1. Re:OP obviously has not used an SSD before... by leppi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Best investment/upgrade to a consumer device under medium and larger workloads, maybe once you get above 1GB of memory. And it's not even close. Benchmarks don't do the change in speed justice. All operations on the laptop feel 2x, maybe 3x faster. Some faster than that. You are replacing a link in your computer that was the weakest by 2-3 orders of magnitude. It's no wonder it is such a dramatic improvement.

  3. 0.74 cents per GB by SquarePixel · · Score: 5, Funny

    or about .74 cents per gig

    Wow, $0.0074 per GB! That's cheap!

    1. Re:0.74 cents per GB by R.Mo_Robert · · Score: 5, Funny

      No big deal, they're just doing some Verizon math.

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  4. Re:Not sure if you can post anonymously early or n by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're pushing the cloud so much is storage much of an issue at all? Seriously I can put Chromium OS on a 4GB thumb drive and boot up a laptop and do web stuff all day long.

    Sometimes people don't have access to the internet but still need a computer. Remember the old days before the cloud existed? Yeah - you can't get on the Internet everywhere. Some of these rural areas people still think dial up is not only an option but they still think it's normal.

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  5. Confusion of the language. by gumpish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dropped by 3X? Dropped by three times what?

    Is that the same sort of thing as "todays temperature is twice as cold"?

    I think you meant "the price has dropped by 2/3rds" or "prices today are 1/3rd what they were 3 years ago".

  6. They've been worth it for a while now by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even two years ago, I configured my then new laptop with a 160 gig SSD for $150 more and I felt it was worth it given the speed gains. That same SSD now boots Windows 8 in 7 seconds, Photoshop CS6 in 5 seconds (first boot), Word 2010 (first boot) in a fraction of a second. I use an external drive for media. After that first SSD, I now always configure my laptops and desktops now with a SSD on the primary partition for the OS install and application installs.

  7. Sequential speeds are irrelevant by BorgDrone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest performance boost of an SSD compared to a traditional harddisk is random access times, this is what matters a lot more than sequential read performance.

    That and a computer without any moving parts is just so nice and quiet.

    1. Re:Sequential speeds are irrelevant by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This. Many of my older computers became useless when running a virus scan. The hard drive is constantly busy reading files, vastly slowing down hard drive accesses for other tasks. With my current SSD system, I can run a virus scan and two anti-spyware scans simultaneously, and continue using the computer like normal.

  8. Re:Not sure if you can post anonymously early or n by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since bandwidth is not unlimited, nor is it always connected, I would say the paradigm is as valid is it ever has been.

    Cloud Storage is just a re-branded version of what people have been already doing for decades, and thus factors in the same basic manner. There are what, about half a dozen levels of memory between a remote server and your CPU? Each one is a trade off between speed, size, and cost.

  9. Worth it for a while now.. by anethema · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Putting a SSD as my OS/game drive has made by far the largest difference I've ever seen in a single upgrade.

    In the past it was: "More ram..ooh yeah bit smoother...Faster CPU, bit peppier..." Etc, helped but not blow your socks off.

    You put an SSD for your main apps, OS, and games, and it will astonish you how quickly things go. Firefox and other apps load instantly. When I had a macbook pro I swapped to SSD and normally the icons for my startup stuff would bounce for a bit as they loaded etc. After SSD like 5 icons would do a half bounce and bam all 5 loaded done.

    So for a desktop, do what I do. Throw a big spinner in there as a drive for games you don't need a fast HDD on, media, etc. Then you will have the best of both worlds. It is by far the least buyers remorse I've ever felt on a PC upgrade.

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  10. Wrong comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you compare sequential reads it's obvious HDs seem to have a chance against SSDs. It's in non-sequential reads where SSDs completely outclass any HD.

  11. Hybrid is nowhere near the same as SSD by jest3r · · Score: 5, Informative

    The post makes it sound like Hybrid is close to SSD ... it is not ...

    Max. read speed (4K blocks)
    SSD: 456MB/sec.
    Standard: 122MB/sec.
    Hybrid: 106MB/sec.

    Max. write speed
    SSD: 241MB/sec.
    Standard: 119MB/sec.
    Hybrid: 114MB/sec.

    1.19GB file transfer
    SSD: 15 sec.
    Standard: 34 sec.
    Hybrid: 29 sec.

  12. Seriously? by bazald · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For a serious computer user, an SSD has been worth the money for a while now.

    * If you need to do serious disk I/O with a mid-size or smaller notebook, RAID isn't even an option for increasing speed.
    * Running multiple virtual machines? Want them to boot quickly? An SSD makes them feel native.
    * Running Windows as a native operating system, and have more than one or two programs that you legitimately want to launch at boot, and can't/won't disable? An SSD makes your computer usable within tens of seconds as opposed to multiple minutes.
    * Doing compilation? Syncing of filesystems with a system such as Unison? Doing anything filesystem heavy? The speedup is insanely awesome.

    If all you care about is running Your Web Browser and editing Word documents, or storing a few photos, obviously an SSD is a more questionable upgrade, and probably will be for the foreseeable future.

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  13. Re:Not sure if you can post anonymously early or n by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The cloud isn't nearly fast enough or cheap enough to replace any sort of local storage. That's not even getting into the obvious question of reliability and availability that so many people like to just gloss over.

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  14. Re:Not sure if you can post anonymously early or n by mhajicek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or secure enough.

  15. Anyone asking hasn't used an SSD. by Above · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having done a number of HDD->SSD upgrades for friends and family, I can tell you this quite simply. Anyone asking the question has never used an SSD, because if they had they wouldn't be asking it.

    How a desktop "feels" to the user isn't about raw throughput, but it is very often about IOPS and more importantly latency. It may not seem like waiting 5-8ms for the rotational latency of a drive is a big deal, but spread that out over a pile of IOPS and it is a huge deal. The original post even shows how much, boot time with an SSD was 9 seconds, HDD 21. That's 50% faster. Now probably most people don't care if the boot time is 9 or 21 seconds, but I bet most folks would like their system a lot better if every application load time was 50% faster!

    SSD is the single biggest no-brainer upgrade to me, it's even surpassed the "add ram" no brainer. The only time SSD's get questioned is for bulk storage. If the users needs include large music, photo, or video archives then it is worth asking questions about the cost of storage. Even in those cases, going with a hybrid drive or two drives is always the right answer.

  16. Re:Hybrid Drives by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Informative

    But for the most part on the desktop Solid State doesn't make too much sense.

    Are you kidding? SSDs are about 5-10 times faster than HDD. Considering that in many computers, the HDD is by far the slowest component, not a bottleneck for some applications, but usually a minor one for everything (everything comes from storage at some point). Upgraded to an SSD and saw a stunning gain in responsiveness for nearly every single usage on my desktop. It was obviously massive for boot times (probably ~3 times faster), but overall everything is vastly snappier. And I'm only running a SATA II connection from my motherboard, which means I'm only getting about 1/2 the top speed of the SSD.

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  17. Re:Hybrid Drives by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Informative

    As in all things, the value is in the eye of the buyer. What matters to you may be unimportant to someone else.

    SSD offers speed, lower power requirements, and low heat but can't match spindle capacities and has a higher cost.

    Spindle drives have large capacity and low cost but high heat, and higher power requirements and poor performance by comparison to SSD.

    Hybrids have capacity and low cost, good performance, higher power requirements, and high heat.

    SSD's are an easy choice for laptops (in general) unless the laptop has a large storage capacity requirement.

    If portability isn't a concern, you can easily stripe 3 standard HDD's and get near the same performance as an SSD for the same cost but with higher capacity.

    There are simply too many variations and 'solutions' to use a cookie cutter approach, but if you break it down into the major categories above, and grade on which is most important (Price, Power, Speed, Capacity, Heat), it becomes easier to judge which is a better fit.

  18. Re:Hybrid Drives by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you are getting a desktop, then you are either in it for raw power. In that case you get a system with a lot more memory, and faster physical drives, if you are not in it for raw power then you are in it for budget reasons. But for the most part on the desktop Solid State doesn't make too much sense.

    As a primary disk an SSD is truly a joy a to work with. There's no need to use them to store tons of movies or MP3's, a simple 64 or 128 GB drive to run the operating system and most commonly used applications is more than enough to experience a truly significant increase in speed.

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  19. Re:Hybrid Drives by Nursie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some performance increase?

    Have you ever used one? Best upgrade (in terms of noticeable speed/responsiveness) increase since doubling the RAM on that old pentium box in 1996....