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Paypal Users In Argentina Can No Longer Make Domestic Transactions
another random user writes with this excerpt from the BBC: "The online payment service said that from 9 October: 'Argentina resident Paypal-users may only send and receive international payments.'
Last year the Argentine government announced restrictions on the purchase of U.S. dollars.
It has led to an increase in currency sales on the black market — but Paypal's exchange rates are better.
Locals were setting up two accounts under different email addresses and transferring money between the two, exchanging local currency pesos for dollars in the process."
Game the system, pay the price...
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Transferring money from one of your own accounts to another, within the same country, is "money laundering and tax evasion" now?
"Money laundering and tax evasion" clearly is the "terrorism and cybercriminality" of the financial world, it is.
Or 3 under Mitt.
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Governments used to be able to easily control currency flows because banks were needed to move money and for most people it was not easy to move small amounts. Now, with PayPa, for example, it's a lot easier to move a few hundred dollars across borders. How long is it before Argentineans with friends and relatives abroad "buy" things - effectively converting pesos into dollars and then have that person bring back dollars or keep them safely out of reach of the authorities? The authorities will have to setup ways to monitor online "sales" and collect taxes at the time of sale or tax PayPal transactions at the time of money transfer. Or, force PayPal to not do currency conversions. In the end, they will either have to give up, massively devalue the Peso or make it a non-convertablke currency.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
The UK had both price fixing and rationing in WW2, and we lost to the United States, which didn't.
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
Too much of the Argentine economy consists of raising cheap beef for the US market. Most countries that are de facto producers for the US are screwed up. (And before you decide that is flamebait, go take a serious look at the CIA World Factbook.)
From scarped cliff or quarried stone she cries "A thousand types are gone, I care for nothing, no not one."
So people want to be able to buy something, government says: you can't. This always leads to black markets.
Inflation (money printing) in Argentina is high, their prices are going up 24% per year, which is the consequence of high inflation. Instead of stopping the inflation (stopping the money printing), the government wants to stop people from saving their purchasing power, however they do it. Apparently to the people of Argentina USD seem to be more attractive then their own currency.
In USA inflation is also high, 11-15%, but prices are not going up as quickly as in Argentina, because other countries are still willing to absorb the new dollars and exchange their goods for them, so prices are going up in other countries, who respond with their own inflation, they print their own currencies in response to USA printing and they are willing so far to exchange their own productivity (products they manufacture and make) for US dollars. This pushes prices up for those productive nations and this still acts as a price buffer for USA.
But look at this obvious response by government of Argentina: it's not that the government is plainly wrong in what it is doing, destroying the currency of the people.
The government says: it is the people, who are wrong for wanting to save their own savings, their purchasing power. Let's take the purchasing power away from the people. What it means is that the government wants to keep its high levels of spending but cannot or will not raise taxes, so it wants to steal from people. Printing money is theft of productivity and it's most obvious to the people when their prices go up.
Of-course very few people can understand the link between their prices going up and their government printing the currency, it's not a link that is necessarily very obvious directly to people, that's because people are not taught economics and the version of economics that they are taught is really not economics, it's propaganda that allows the government elite to keep people in check by denying them the real understanding of what is going on.
What is happening in Argentina is nothing new. Many countries did the same thing - printed money, set exchange controls, price controls, all it ever does is it creates black markets and very quickly creates very wide separation onto the poor and rich, even among people that maybe didn't have that huge of a separation before the gov't actions.
The newly printed money does not equal wealth. The amount of production stays the same (or it is decreased because people move their savings somewhere else and this means moving production somewhere else, so the country suffers decrease of productivity and increase of money supply), so the new money simply ends up bidding up prices for the existing assets and goods.
This is why inflation (money printing) hurts the poor much more than the wealthy, because the poor live on various fixed incomes, they are getting less and less with every check, be it a salary or a dividend or a pension check, whatever.
The wealthy end up bidding up prices for existing assets. Everything becomes a fight for a fixed or a decreasing pie, the pie is not growing. Only savings and production grows the pie, money printing destroys savings and productivity and re-allocates the pie from middle and poor to the top.
That's why there is a higher and higher wealth disparity, it's not because the 1% is stealing something, it's because the government is stealing something, the government is stealing purchasing power, it's destroying the savings, productivity, it's destroying the currency.
Of-course as people try to avoid their purchasing power from being destroyed by the government, the government sees this as something to be prevented, so it sets exchange controls, currency controls, wage and price controls. Minimum wage is just an attempt to hide levels of inflation, like many other things that gov't does it backfires and creates more unemployment and dependency and decreases productivity and standa
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Dear Sir
I am a successful Argentinian businessman who is in urgent need of your assistance. I have the sum of $10,000,000 equivalent in US Dollars which I need to transfer to an associate of mine in this country. Due to restrictive government policy, we require a 3rd party intermediary located outside the country. If you are willing to provide your services for this task, we will compensate you the sum of $5,000 USD. Please contact me as soon as possible, urgency is high in our minds to accomplish this transaction.
Our email address is: 9racdge82@mailvault.com
Sincerely,
Your Future Associates
And you have half of your facts right.
Brazil has very much indeed left us behind. No doubt about that. But they have problems of their own too.
The behavior of the government here can be described as "random" at best, creating policies which have no clear benefit to anyone or purpose other than "someone, somewhere is stealing a lot of money with this... but I don't quite know how". It is very infuriating. They come out with blatant lies all the time, which has made the approval rating drop to what I imagine are single digits now. I say imagine since you can't trust any news outlets. I'd say something about that, but you americans have fox news, so we're relatively tame on that score. At least for now.
It's also sad that what used to be the "good" politicians are the ones now in office, corrupted beyond recognition. They got in basically by not being part of the US-slavish mafia that had been ruling for the last 20 years. But now they made up a mafia of their own, so that's not even a selling point anymore. It's nice that they don't just bow and take it in the ass 24/7 and lay the bill on us, but who cares if they still fuck us over even worse than before in many ways.
The opposing party is pretty much an open mafia, so there is really no other choice. If there were elections today, I couldn't vote honestly for anyone, unless votes were casted with bullets. I would vote for pretty much everybody then. Many times over.
Our goverment thinks that because they got 54% last elections, they have absolut control. Having more than 54% means they have quorum in the senate, they can move forward anything our president want. That also means that they don't have to explain anything to anyone. They subsidize poverty (if you worked all your life and you got fired, you are screwed. But if you are poor and don't have a job, you will get money. And more money for each of your sons), so (most) poor people don't want to work anymore. All hard workers from medium class know that our currency can't be trust when hard times comes (anyone here remembers about 'corralito'?), but out gov't is taking away that too, and hyper-controlling everything you do so they can collect more taxes.
Now, there are few media groups that are not aligned with the gov't, they are having problems as well. One of the biggest media groups (group Clarin) is about to be disarmed next Dec 7. And the gov't spend a LOT of money in official media and propaganda to tell the 'official' story (like there is no inflation, there is no insecurity, there is no poverty, there is no unemployment)
Next presidential elextions will ocurr in 2015, we still have a long way ahead...
It's a funny thing about those 500 Euro bills, I remember about a year ago I was going to UK through France and at the passport check the lady asks me why I am going there, what my citizenship is, whatever. I am asking her why? Basically the gist I got was that she was afraid I'd come to UK to stay there and collect welfare?!?:)
So I open the wallet, there are a few cards and a few 500Euro bills, maybe 6 of them. She almost falls off her chair, she is like: where did you get those? I am like: WTF? Seriously? She let me through, but for a moment I thought she was going to call the cops on me or something.
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