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Iran Behind Cyber Attacks On U.S. Banks
New submitter who_stole_my_kidneys writes "Evidence suggests the Iranian government is behind cyberattacks this week that have targeted the websites of JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America. The attacks are described by one source, a former U.S. official, as being 'significant and ongoing,' and looking to cause 'functional and significant damage.' Another source suggested the attacks were in response to U.S. sanctions on Iranian banks."
First of all, "we", the U.S., didn't do anything
I guess someone has not been studying the history of US-Iranian relations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-iraq_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-contra_affair
It is not as though the Iranians started to consider us to be enemies without us having done anything to them.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443890304578006702760267388.html The Fed said it would buy mortgage-backed securities, or MBS, for an indefinite period to bolster the economy. Smells like shoveling money at the derivatives to me.. and who holds a metric fuckton of those I wonder...
False. Iraq, and only Iraq, used chemical weapons in the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-88. (And non incidentally, the chemical weapons were supplied by the west, and targetted using western intelligence).
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How about the Senate report on U.S. Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq, amongst whose findings is "The United States provided the Government of Iraq with "dual use" licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological, and missile- system programs, including:(6) chemical warfare agent precursors; chemical warfare agent production facility plans and technical drawings (provided as pesticide production facility plans); chemical warhead filling equipment; biological warfare related materials; missile fabrication equipment; and, missile-system guidance equipment"
Is that fact straight enough for you?/P
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The UK, Germany, Japan, and so on
In fact, the British attacked the US in 1812, and did not truly become our allies until the 20th century -- generations after the revolution. We helped to establish democratic governments in Germany and Japan.
When it came to Iran, we went with the opposite approach: the elimination of democracy in favor of authoritarian dictatorship. The Iranians did not rebel against their democratic government, they rebelled against a tyrant who had US backing. There is a world of difference between what happened in Iran and what happened in Germany or Japan.
There is something to be said for "forgive and forget" rather than holding a grudge until the end of eternity.
Chances are that the Iranians would have forgotten their anger, if we did not keep angering them. After they overthrew the dictatorship we created (sadly, only to establish another tyranny), we started giving the Iraqis weapons to kill Iranians with. Then in secret, we also gave Iranian weapons to kill Iraqis with, basically escalating a war that resulted in many dead Arabs and Persians. We also have an embargo on Iran, we have sent numerous, sophisticated, and destructive malware packages to them (and have written those to target their computer systems) and we keep calling them our enemy. It is not as though they are still getting back at us for everything that happened 60 years ago; we just won't leave them alone.
For that matter, were the US to apply the same logic they'd have plenty of reason to hold a grudge forever against Iran
Which is basically what we are doing -- as I said, we are not leaving them alone, we are actively working against Iran. We never had a good reason to get involved with Iran in the first place, and we keep worsening the situation.
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Let's start be reevaluating our approach to overthrowing governments. We screwed up with Iran and Iraq; let's try not to screw up again going forward (maybe we should be asking about the escalation of US military activity in South America).
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No seriously, modern Iran is the result of western interference, go read it up.
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