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DNC Salute to Vets Featured Backdrop Of Russian Warships

An anonymous reader writes "Our politicians, and their henchmen, at their finest! In an apparent error, the Democratic National Convention's primary backdrop for its salute to veterans, by a 4-star admiral, featured a composite warship backdrop, in parade review, as a sign of U.S. strength and force projection; unfortunately, all of the naval ships in the image were Russian warships."

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  1. This happened a long time ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The rest of the media already picked this apart weeks ago, and has since processed the DNC's effusive apologies for somebody's error in Photoshop.

    Seriously?

    1. Re:This happened a long time ago by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh...what a crock of shit. This error was caused by a staffer who prepared the presentation and didnt know better or someone either playing a practical joke or trying to embarass Obama.

      Those ships were Soviet era warships. Someone in the navy, as i was during that era, would know that. Most civilians wouldn't know the difference.

      And, why is this being posted weeks AFTER it occurred and has already hit the mainstream?

      By the way, who is going to help Romney add roll-down windows to the airliners? You?

    2. Re:This happened a long time ago by EdIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Christ this is fucking pitiful. You get a +5 insightful for an impossibly stupid argument that the mistake is indicative of how a political party will govern.

      Really?

      Slashdot actually runs the article here.... and has a fucking icon to represent Democrats. I know there are a ton of people here frothing at the mouth about Democrats, and Republicans (only to be drowned out by people who hate government period), but how more more ridiculous can this get?

      This was on Slashdot? Some staffer who could not identify Russian warships in a presentation he was putting together becomes news worthy? Really?

      This was simply some poor fool who did a Google image search and did not get "lucky" . People do stupid shit like this every 60 seconds in Corporate America.

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    3. Re:This happened a long time ago by jrroche · · Score: 2

      Yes, Obama was personally in charge of putting together a presentation slideshow backdrop. He also handled all the travel arrangements, prepared all of the food at the convention, and swept up afterward. No wonder he looks so tired all the time!

    4. Re:This happened a long time ago by Tommy+Bologna · · Score: 5, Informative

      I used to be a staffer who prepared graphics for high level government presentations. I was hired because I knew what I was doing, and I'd have been fired if I made a mistake like this. Let me correct that -- I'd have been fired, my boss would have been fired, and the company for which I worked would have lost a multi-million dollar contract which would in turn place scores of other peoples continued employment in jeopardy.

      To write this off as just some staffer's oversight displays a certain ignorance about how important presentations come together, how they're vetted, and the competency of people involved in creating those presentations.

    5. Re:This happened a long time ago by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2

      Oh the stories I could tell... Shit like this slips through all the time. And we don't know how many people were fired--I would imagine many. But to say that this doesn't happen is silly, the democratic convention is something like 48 hours of A/V material. The fact that a couple seconds were in error isn't surprising in the least. I bet there were a few typos as well.

    6. Re:This happened a long time ago by drkim · · Score: 2

      Yes, Obama was personally in charge of putting together a presentation slideshow backdrop. He also handled all the travel arrangements, prepared all of the food at the convention, and swept up afterward. No wonder he looks so tired all the time!

      Hilarious! I'm pretty sure Obama personally shot the pictures, composed and arraigned the music, and changes the light bulbs in the hall, too.

      But seriously, Romney wasn't joking about the jetliner windows. He really couldn't figure out why they don't let you open them in flight. This is the guy we want setting our space policy? Our national science policy? And (worst) our national educational policy? A guy who thinks God lives on planet Kolob?

      Actual quote:

      “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no; and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous.”

      ...so for Romney supporters, you have a choice. You can admit this quote was serious, which makes Romney pretty dumb; or you can pretend he was 'joking' which makes him stunningly un-funny.

    7. Re:This happened a long time ago by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Funny

      True story about bad Google image search results:

      My best friend started working for a Catholic hospital and during the orientation the person giving the talk put up a series of what she felt wee inspirational slides.

      One of them, she said, was God's hands parting a cloud so that the sun could shine through. It was a picture that had been made by Something Awful forum members that were putting goatse imagery into random scenes.

      My friend just bout died trying to contain her laughter.

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    8. Re:This happened a long time ago by Brewster+Jennings · · Score: 2

      That's like saying that the bride and a groom don't really love each other because the ice sculpture swans at the reception were the wrong size.

  2. Old news by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I found this funny at the time, but it happened almost three weeks ago.

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    1. Re:Old news by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is what happens when you don't have much ex-military in leadership.

      It's not just a case of no 'ex-military'. Some years ago, I had to correct a USAF Lt (computer dude, not a flyboy) who was preparing a Powerpoint slide deck. About 1/3 of the way through, there was an image of some fighter jets. Navy F-18 fighter jets.

      Dude...you need to change that picture.
      Why? It's jets. I'm trying to conjure up the concept of speed
      When your *Air Force* audience sees that picture of Navy jets, they will discount everything else you have said. Cluelessness does not work. Do your homework. It's not like we have a shortage of jets around here. Go 1/2 mile down the street, and you can see about 75 of our jets. Use some of those.

      Bottom line, just grabbing an dramatic pic does not work. Do your homework and grab a relevant dramatic pic. Hell...that is a line item in the "Action Officers Handbook", under 'How not to fuck up'.

    2. Re:Old news by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I found this funny at the time, but it happened almost three weeks ago.

      But if the Republicans did it, the talking heads here on /. would be bringing it up for the next 6 months.

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    3. Re:Old news by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 2

      Yes, because military leadership is demostrated in Photoshop compositions.

      Do you think the photo was chosen/doctored by a navy assessor? Most likely, it is the job of some assistant who thought "Well, the thing under looks like the sea, so the big things on it must be ships. And they are grey and have guns, so they probably are from the military (they lack *so much* imagination when it comes to colour!). And since we won the Cold War, only we have ships, don't we".

      If you want to worry about military leadership, a better issue would be the childlike bickering between officers of the different branches ("if you say that a Navy plane is an Air Force plane they won't hear to you, even if it is not related to the argument!")

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    4. Re:Old news by Q-Hack! · · Score: 2

      Mitt Romney personally brought up the "47% don't pay income taxes" canard two years after it was widely debunked.

      Um... hate to bust your bubble here, but the article you use for reference, clearly states that 47% of the population of the USA doesn't pay federal income tax. It goes on to say is that there are other taxes that people pay that equate to a smaller number. For instance, when you include payroll taxes, then only 10% of the population pay no taxes.

      Now if you had said that Romny was missleading, I might agree with you, but he was factually true. Nice try though.

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    5. Re:Old news by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      Now if you had said that Romny was missleading, I might agree with you, but he was factually true. Nice try though.

      It is a "true lie" - it is a literal truth meant to mislead about a larger issue. People who say "true lies" fall into two camps - either they are deliberately intending to mislead, or they are so credulous that they believed the larger implication. Nobody cites a "true lie" because they really care about the true part as the true part is invariably of little interest just by itself.

      So yes, it was debunked. Especially when you consider the context of his delivery - stuff like, "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." That is an obvious attempt to imply not paying any tax at all, which is the lie part of that particular true lie.

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  3. In Soviet Russia... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... the Democratic National Convention ... um ... Wait, what?

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    1. Re:In Soviet Russia... by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      ... the Democratic National Convention ... um ... Wait, what?

      In Soviet Russia warships back YOU!

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  4. Well, this confirms it... by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 3, Funny

    Democrats are commies

    (I kid)

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  5. Slashdot... news for ... WHO GIVES A SHIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Story is -1 offtopic

  6. Perhaps they're hinting at future budget cuts. by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

    After all, Americans fly into space with the help of aging Soviet technology; perhaps we'll be taking to the seas in mothballed Russian naval vessels - at least those ships won't be vulnerable to the Blue Screen of Death! :p

    1. Re:Perhaps they're hinting at future budget cuts. by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Funny

      For national security reasons, the DNC decided to not use actual US craft in the photo. They did it to protect us all.

    2. Re:Perhaps they're hinting at future budget cuts. by TorrentFox · · Score: 2

      Sure they will - but the upside is that they won't have had to pay licensing for that privilege

  7. Asleep At The Wheel by Baby+Duck · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot. OLD ASS NEWS for Nerds.

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    1. Re:Asleep At The Wheel by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

      This problem would have been avoided if a Slashdotter were in charge of the image selection.

      Possibly, but who knows how the convention delegates would have reacted to slides showing Mobile Force Gundam?

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  8. Old news by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And it's merely a symptom anyways. Big woop.

    This is what happens when you don't have much ex-military in leadership. If they had, one of the old barnacles would have said 'let's put up a picture of BB 61, that'l scare the hell out of 'em!'. Unmistakeable US naval power, surpassed only by the CVNs. Hey, how about a picture of CVN 77?

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  9. BUT WHY?!?!?!1111 by Bananatree3 · · Score: 2

    Simple. It's photogenic, and some art fart grad was tasked with finding the highest res, halfway-decent image the night before.

    Grand Conspiracy, my ass.

  10. Why is this here? by DAldredge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why is this on /.?

  11. Can you say partisan post? by Sir_Kurt · · Score: 2

    Nuff said!

  12. Typical PR folks by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 5, Informative

    PR folks usually have a pretty tenuous grasp on the subject matter. Hence, to appeal to those concerned about defence they probably just used Google Image to find "warships", look for some cool looking ones (with lots of sticky-out bits) and slapped 'em in their Powerpoint presentation. Note: US warships look less menacing these days, their radars are the slab sided SPY-1 for the Aegis and the missile launches are build into the deck as the rapid-fire Mk 41 Vertical Launch System and similar. So they look less mean, but they are actually more effective that way.

    If only this basic incompetence and lack of fact checking was limited to PR people. The bulk of journalists these days are also woeful in their fact checking. For example, in Syria they keep talking about "MiG fighters bombing the rebels" all the while showing videos of the L-39 Albatross trainer (nb: not a MiG). A small detail, but lets get the facts we know straight, yeah? What really worries me about modern reporters is that they get the facts I know about so wrong, so I figure that they are probably getting a lot of the other stuff wrong too.

    The City News Bureau of Chicago was famous for their high standards of making the journalists check their facts. They had classic watchwords, like, "If your mother tells you she loves you, check it out with two independent sources.". It is a shame that proper journalism isn't practiced, is probably not that profitable, and doesn't really interest the general public (who'd rather follow a nude prince's private romp in Vegas, and the Duchess of Windor's poolside habits than any of the other things happening on the planet, both good and ill).

    However, these people are not alone in their bad habits. For example, both climate change advocates and climate change deniers seem to cling to dogma rather than continuously checking their assumptions against old and new data. It's always ok to be wrong, you just have to be prepared to change your mind in the face of better information.

    ps. I won't even start a rant on how badly informed most politicians appear to be. Clearly the skills required to enter office are not the same as those required to make informed and sensible decisions once you are there.

  13. Re:A mistake but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I first noticed this on the Drudge Report.

    Was it ever reported on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, Huffington Post, or the New York Times? Not that any of those lean to the left and would have spiked the story, or anything...

  14. Re:Republican Shills by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...(looks in way-back machine to "election 2008")...

    "You're just saying Obama isn't a good candidate because he's black, and you are a racist!"

    "No, I think he's a bad candidate because his official policy statements cannot possibly be met, and because his plans to get us out of this recession slump resemble FDR's new deal, which historicallu tripled unemployment!"

    "RACIST!" ......(steps out of the wayback mchine)....

    "And the only reason you hate Obama is because he's black. If Obama was a white man you'd be praising the Democratic party for the work that's been accomplished under this administration. Instead you'll stand by and let the Republican wreck the country further because you're a racist."

    "No, the reason I don't like Obama is because he bailed out the people who flushed the economy down the toilet, continues to support printing money as economic stimulous which drives up inflation, enacted policies which tripled deficit spending, FAILED to close GITMO, EXPANDED govt wiretapping programs, and did exactly what I said he would do concerning unemployment."

    Let me guess. "Racist!" Right?

  15. Turkey! by bhlowe · · Score: 2

    At least the nitwits got US made F-5 fighters in the backdrop... Unfortunately, they belonged to the Turkish Air Force...

  16. Delusion by Dave+Emami · · Score: 2

    And the only reason you hate Obama is because he's black.

    You honestly believe that? You really think that everyone who opposes Obama would be just fine with him if he were Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, or Al Franken? Or that, conversely, they'd vote for those guys rather than Condi Rice or Allen West?

    It's not as if I agreed with Obama back when he was a white guy named Jimmy Carter.

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  17. What media? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real media ever touched this story. Wouldn't want to make any Democrat appear to ever have flaws.

    If there's no other reason to vote non-Democrat, it's simply so that the media will pay attention when mistakes are made. Just look at how the media refused to ask questions of Obama when they were still claiming the embassy hit was random instead of a terrorist attack.

    Voting for Obama is voting for four more years of media/government coverups. Only now with nothing to lose.

    1. Re:What media? by readin · · Score: 2

      If there's no other reason to vote non-Democrat, it's simply so that the media will pay attention when mistakes are made. Just look at how the media refused to ask questions of Obama when they were still claiming the embassy hit was random instead of a terrorist attack.

      You make a good point. Bush made a lot of mistakes too, but at least they made the news quickly.

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    2. Re:What media? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      voting with the R's will simply be worst.

      I'm not any cheerleader for the D's but I can certainly tell the diff between 'not getting enough done' (due to R's blockage, basically) and the true evil that the R's (these days) stand for.

      I refuse to have religion enter the stage of poltics any more than it has. R's are all about religion. I find this as distasteful as racism. I won't stand for it.

      the 'part of the rich' is not really what america needs right now. we can't afford more wealth transfer to the superpowerful. in fact, we need course reversal. the D's are closer to this than the R's are.

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    3. Re:What media? by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you ever think about what you write?

      I'm serious here, I'm not trolling or trying to bait you or anything. But it appears that you are against someone being in government because of their religion and think that punishing the rich will somehow fix what you see wrong with the country. I'm not even going to get into the fact that the Senate is controlled by democrats and they have refused to even take up legislation that came from the house meaning your R obstructionism is little more then a campaign lie you might have swallowed.

      So how is this actually going to work? How many poor people have given you jobs you could live off of and how did they remain poor in the process?

      But better yet, how is discriminating against someone because of their religion different then discriminating against someone because of the color of their skin or ethnic make up? Do you seriously think it is perfectly fine to say, well, your a Latino, we can't hold that against you, -oh wait, your Christian, you can't run for office? Or well, I see you are otherwise qualified for the job, but OH Wait, You are Muslim- we can't have any of you here?

    4. Re:What media? by doesnothingwell · · Score: 2

      the D's are closer to this than the R's are.

      Kinda like comparing turds with corn instead of peanuts embedded in it.

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  18. Re:Republican Shills by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I dunno. That would require contemplating the idea that the republican party actually had sufficient intelligence to enact such a tactic. Given their track record, and inability to keep things secret, such a faux pas as that would have already exploded in their faces like a loaded cigar.

    Occam's razor says to pick the least convoluted explanation.

    It is more likely that some percentage of the population actually voted for obama _because_ he was black, while totally ignoring his political platform, and ascribed all resistance to "their" candidate as de-facto racism. To wit: the widely monetized sales of Obama's "historic" inauguration speech, clearly marketed toward african americans.

    I don't care what color Obama is. He could have been the first green president for all I care; his policies were abysmal, and his track record is nothing I want to see more of.

    I ascribe the "racist!" Posts and rhetoric I see as "racially biased electioneering part II", and find them offensive in every possible sense. That people have forgotten how heavily the word "racist" was slung around 4 years ago deeply saddens me. I don't know how many times I was accused of that disgusting vice 4 years ago for merely questioning obama as a candidate, based on his POLICY statements!

    That was the reason for the prior post. Anyone with doubts can just go to waybackmachine.org, type slashdot.org for the site, 2008 for the year, and see for themselves.

  19. Libs are just showing pics of their heroes ;-) by drnb · · Score: 2

    Perhaps they're hinting at future budget cuts

    Nope, the libs just put up photos of the people they actually consider their heroes, the soviets. ;-)