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New York Plans World's Largest Ferris Wheel

justelite writes "It is an old trend to build "The World's largest..." something. One of the latest somethings is a 630-foot tall Ferris wheel planned for Staten Island. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said 'The New York Wheel will be an attraction unlike any other in New York City even unlike any other on the planet.' Designed to carry 1,440 passengers at a time, it's expected to draw 4.5 million people a year to a setting that also would include a 100-shop outlet mall and a 200-room hotel."

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  1. My biggest fear by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This would scare the crap out of me. I can do any ride in an amusement park. Tallest, fastest, upside down... doesn't matter. Put me on a Ferris wheet and I'm grabbing the bar with white knuckles. I think it is the fact that I just have time to look out at the world and wonder about the minimum wage carnie who maintains the machine. That and the person sitting next to me can decide to start rocking the damn thing...

    No, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'd rather be on the 70mph dragster than on a small Ferris wheel.

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    1. Re:My biggest fear by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think it is the fact that I just have time to look out at the world and wonder about the minimum wage carnie who maintains the machine.

      The manufacture of amusement and carnival rides is regulated at the Federal level.
      The set up, maintanence, and operation of traveling carnival rides is regulated at the Federal level.

      The set up, maintanence, and operation of permanent amusement and carnival rides is regulated at the State level.
      Your safety may vary.

      Alabama, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, Utah and Wyoming have no regulation at all.
      New York has a strong regulatory environment.
      Would you like to know more?

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    2. Re:My biggest fear by Lynchenstein · · Score: 2

      I just hope it doesn't end up looking like a huge bulls-eye.

    3. Re:My biggest fear by RicktheBrick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Maybe the Ferris wheel will somehow get loose and start rolling and run over the prettiest female and you will safe her by grabbing her. Than she will sit on your lap and hug you until the wheel stops. By the time you are safely removed from the wheel, she will be madly in love with you. I mean if you are going to imagine something at least make it interesting. The odds of that happening are about the same as you being injured.

    4. Re:My biggest fear by RajivSLK · · Score: 2

      I mean if you are going to imagine something at least make it interesting.

      Perhaps his imaginations refuses to wildly defy the laws of physics?

  2. 1,440 People on it at one time ??? by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My first thought on reading that it would hold 1,440 people at once... in New York City... What a tempting target for a terrorist... Yea, I've been brainwashed, I know it...

    1. Re:1,440 People on it at one time ??? by eth1 · · Score: 2

      My first thought on reading that it would hold 1,440 people at once... in New York City... What a tempting target for a terrorist... Yea, I've been brainwashed, I know it...

      That was the first thing that jumped out at me, also, but not in the context of terrorism. As a resident of Dallas, home of one of the previous "tallest ferris wheels" (480 seating capacity), I can say the damn thing spends the majority of it's time loading/unloading instead of moving already. Guess it gives you time to look at stuff from up there, but if something happens, you'll be stuck for a LONG time.

  3. Not as big as the original by Relayman · · Score: 3, Informative

    It still won't be as big as the original Ferris Wheel which could hold 2,160 people at a time. Also, will a 9-minute ride still be 50 cents?

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    1. Re:Not as big as the original by 54mc · · Score: 2

      Also, will a 9-minute ride still be 50 cents?

      Inflation adjusted, that's just under $12.00 ... so yea, probably.

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    2. Re:Not as big as the original by RajivSLK · · Score: 2

      Very interestingly according to the inflation calculator:

      What cost $0.50 in 1895 would cost $12.93 in 2010.

      So really the same price per minute real terms.

  4. Re:Loading by Scootin159 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ferris wheels like this don't stop for loading - they just have a mobile loading platform that moves with the wheel. Also remember that it's not 1440 people per car, but only 40 people that need to be loaded at once.

  5. Loads/unloads constantly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you ever went to such a wheel (I'm thinking London Eye now) , you'd know that they never really stop rotating so that they can _constantly_ load and unload passengers, one car at a time, each time one of the cars passes near the floor.

    Are we really on Slashdot as you seem to have never heard of "pipelining" ????? ^_^

  6. Yes, Taller by dcollins · · Score: 2

    I think most people would measure how "big" it is by height, and yes, the new one will be about 3 times taller.

    You're correct that the old one had greater capacity.

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  7. Follow the money by operagost · · Score: 2

    Who is paying for this?

    Who profits?

    How many 16 ounce soft drinks will I need to take with me to stay hydrated during the 38 minute ride?

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    1. Re:Follow the money by Artifakt · · Score: 2

      1. They won't sell 16 oz. drinks - Either they will gouge for tiny 8 oz. drinks or they will go standard American and sell small 24 oz. - medium 36 oz. - large 55 gallon drum (and they will be named Medium-Large-Supersized - you won't see the word 'small' on the menu).
      2. However many you were going to get, get one less. Your bladder will thank you, or perhaps the people in the cars below will. (Yeah, I went there - Eeewwwww!).

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  8. New York trying to copycat London? by Cito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on New York be original build another tower, or build world's largest roller coaster...

    No sense copycatting London

  9. unlike anything by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The New York Wheel will be an attraction unlike any other in New York City even unlike any other on the planet

    I guess that's true if you don't count London or Shanghai as being on this planet...

    1. Re:unlike anything by heefeneet · · Score: 2

      The New York Wheel will be an attraction unlike any other in New York City even unlike any other on the planet I guess that's true if you don't count London or Shanghai as being on this planet...

      They meant Planet America. You know, the same one they hold the "World Series" on.

  10. Re:Loading by 91degrees · · Score: 2

    In fact why not rent rooms for an integer number of rotations... This might actually be fun.

    The Singapore flyer offers a dinner service for two revolutions. Not quite what you have in mind I realise but along the same lines.

    Hmm so about a 50% annual load factor or a 110% daily load factor. Pick one?

    Not sure about the daily load factor. I guess they rounded up. I imagine it will be less popular in the winter though. I presume they have quite a good idea about seasonal variations in tourist attractions based on other New York attractions.

  11. Re:Monorail! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    but main street is all cracked and broken.

  12. Interesting to note. by Daryen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to run a much smaller ferris wheel. We only had 40 cars, 8 people per car. Even so, we had to very carefully balance the weight of people to opposing cars. The entire thing had very limited torque, it only took about 1,000 lbs without an equal weight on the opposite side for us to lose control of the wheel. It would spin on it's own, eventually reaching equilibrium.

    To load the whole thing, you had to load 1 set of cars "light" with just a few people, then the opposite side, then one set ahead of that, then one set behind the other set. It actually took a fair amount of training to transition from "20 cars light" to "40 cars heavy." Most of the operators were not skilled enough, and we even lost control of the wheel once when I took a day off. The entire park staff had to turn out and turn the wheel by hand (yes, I'm almost sorry I missed it).

    I'm sure such a large wheel will have much more torque, but it will be interesting to see how they load it.

  13. Re:Loading by bws111 · · Score: 2

    It says 10am to 10pm in the Spring, Fall, and Winter, and til 2AM 'or even all night' in the summer. It also says 'up to 30000/day'. There is nothing incompatible with '30000 people on a busy day in the summer, average of 12300 per day (which is 4.5 miilion per year) over the course of a year'. Both of those figures fit easily into the numbers provided, and leave plenty of room for maintenance and weather.

  14. Re:Loading by vlm · · Score: 2

    Your explicitly stating this implying that you thought some people might otherwise have considered renting them for a NON-integer number of rotations?! :-)

    Can you base jump from only 600 feet or so? I'd be extremely nervous of being tangled in the machinery or blown back into it by a freak wind gust. You know some xtreme lunatic is going to figure out some maintenance door or whatever and smuggle a parachute onboard sooner or later.

    Personally I think a really huge wheel with three access points would be the worlds most weirdly cool "skywalk". I don't know if they have skywalks below 45 or so degrees latitude so this might not make much sense. They're kind of like human subways but above ground and more like sidewalks than trains... Or they're like underground steam tunnels between buildings, but without steam and not underground. Anyway, I could see a 1000 foot diameter urban wheel with a skyscraper at 0 degrees and an access port around the 50th floor, another skyscraper at 180 degrees rotation about 1000 feet away also with an access port around floor 50, and the ground / subway station at 270 degrees rotation and zero feet altitude. Even better two counter rotating wheels on the same axle so both skyscrapers are never more than 1/4 turn away from the subway (you know new yorkers, always in a hurry).

    This is probably proof that I shouldn't be an architect.

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  15. Re:What, a New York Eye? by clgoh · · Score: 2

    The original Ferris Wheel had a height of 264 ft.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferris_Wheel