$1 Billion Mission To Reach the Earth's Mantle
black6host writes "Humans have reached the moon and are planning to return samples from Mars, but when it comes to exploring the land deep beneath our feet, we have only scratched the surface of our planet. This may be about to change with a $1 billion mission to drill 6 km (3.7 miles) beneath the seafloor to reach the Earth's mantle — a 3000 km-thick layer of slowly deforming rock between the crust and the core which makes up the majority of our planet — and bring back the first ever fresh samples."
Please remember to wear your heat suit when venturing outside the vessel.
If not us, who? If not now, when?
I wonder if by samples, they mean the live dinosaurs that inhabit hollow earth.
sudo make me a sandwich
Forgive my ignorance here but don't we already have this? What's wrong with using a volcano?
The unfresh samples at Gros Morne not good enough?
"Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)
I know how this ends...with a giant sucking sound as the world's oceans drain into the earth's core. Then, as steam builds inside the planet, the earth turns into a giant exploding kernel of popcorn.
---Technology will liberate us if it doesn't enslave us first.
Just don't overestimate the DESTINI-- I mean density of the core-- I mean mantle.
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But this one is a live (and good) comic strip: http://www.reptilisrex.com/
This might be a good way to terraform... might this create a volcanic island?
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They've been training for this for years. The original project was supposed to take place back in 1999. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurm:_Journey_to_the_Center_of_the_Earth
can i vote against this?
The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!
Lets hope the Earth crust is not a balloon...
Used to watch this on Saturday morning with "Superhost" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtZ6Ixeqvs
RELEASE THE MORLOCKS!
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
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This movie?
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Everyone knows you're supposed to enter through the poles...
Now that was money well spent.
Dust!
We just dont have enough dust here on our planet!
Anyone who has visited my home, can tell that Im addicted to dust.
To get to the mantle scientists will be relying on a purpose-built Japanese deep-sea drilling vessel called Chikyu
Chikyu, meet Cthulhu. :p
Please tell me my taxes aren't involved...
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I tell you, if any untold horrors come out of there, I shall just point at the hole in the adamantine, say "ain't my fault", and whistle as I walk away and get quickly minced into an unrecognizable mess.
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
The humans delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame.
Man, Dr. Evil needs to get himself a copyeditor.
"Down there," said Golg, "I could show you real gold, real silver, real diamonds."
"Bosh!" said Jill rudely. "As if we didn't know that we're below the deepest mines even here."
"Yes," said Golg. "I have heard of those little scratches in the crust that you Topdwellers call mines. But
that's where you get dead gold, dead silver, dead gems. Down in Bism we have them alive and growing.
There I'll pick you bunches of rubies that you can eat and squeeze you a cup full of diamond-juice. You
won't care much about fingering the cold, dead treasures of your shallow mines after you have tasted the
live ones of Bism."
"My father went to the world's end," said Rilian thoughtfully. "It would be a marvellous thing if his son
went to the bottom of the world."
When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
I did this once in dwarf fortress... Protip, it creates a lot of FUN.
What exactly would be the problem with contacting Morlocks in the year 002012? The only reason they had settled for farming and eating Eloi by 802701 was because the Morlocks had already hunted most other wildlife to extinction.
20,000 leagues under the sea?
Seriously, though: what's the possibility that they could turn a deep ocean trench into Earth's very own Mount Olympus? :p
On a Journey to the Centre of the Earth pick a door, any door.
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You just need to read it in a Dr. Evil voice.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall
I believe it's spelled: one BIIIIIIIILLION dollars...
Yeah, and it's showing a hell of a rash for it.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
I realize Inferno was aired decades ago, but have we forgotten?
Don't they remember the Inhumanoids; the evil that lies within?
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
The pressure below is so high that the creep of rock may fill back the hole as it is drilled.
Do they plan to reinforce the hole wall ?
With which material ? Even if they find one, this will make the project a lot more complicated...
I know it isn't going to happen like this, but I cannot help but think of the flooded salt mine on Lake Peigneur. Some drillers miscalculated their location and drilled down, through a lake bed, into a nearby salt mine shaft. The lake was drained and temporarily reversed the flow of nearby rivers. Look it up on youtube... its kind of interesting to hear how a relatively small 14 inch drill bit can cause a disaster large enough to sink multiple barges and reverse rivers.
We get free samples all the time, it is called volcanic eruptions.
All drilling to the mantle will do is create a new volcano.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
You need to spend one billiion dollars if you want to find the gobliiins.
Geophysicist David Stevenson of Cal Tech proposes we make a probe that rides a molten mass of iron, 10,000 cubic meters of it poured into a fissue 0.1 meter wide x 300 long x 300 meter deep, all the way to the center of the earth.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcampanian.iodp.org%2FMantleFrontier%2F12_Ojovan%2520-%2520Self_Sinking_Capsules_-_Ojovan.pdf&ei=egNrUMiMKuOeywH48YFw&usg=AFQjCNF3htj3aVkXi4Ln7xttNgFiL4TW5A&sig2=-xgVnfbwNGwtVNN6w7s_ZQ
We can finally reach the gooey jelly filling!
Any bets on what flavor it'll be?
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That was a base on the moon, not getting to the earth's core. But I love those movies.
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That was Delroy Lindo apparently. Can't really give you a hard time, I briefly thought it was Morgan Freeman which is clearly ridiclous. Morgan Freeman has been on my mind since that YouTube video I saw awhile ago, so maybe that's it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eV8l_Qb8Fc
... well documented in"Crack in the World"?
CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
I was shocked I had to scroll down this far before seeing a reference to Crack in the World. Too many young'uns on Slashdot. The Core is a terrific movie when compared with Crack in the World. You want bad science? How about blasting a new moon out of the earth, eh?
Michael J.
Root, God, what is difference?
its kind of interesting to hear how a relatively small 14 inch drill bit can cause a disaster large enough to sink multiple barges and reverse rivers.
It can't.
What can, is an extensive salt mine placed under a lake.
Never would I have thought science could be kicked out of the park regarding journeys beneath our feet further than The Core until ... I saw the "elevator" in TR 2012.
So expensive, they had to create a new number!
Also funny because this story was double-posted to correct redundant dollars ($1 Billiion dollar... to $1 Billiion) yet they still forgot to correct the redundant "i".
I just assumed it was a billion with an imaginary middle.
So... we had a devil of a time spending tons of money to patch a teensie oil leak under water... and now we want to potentially make more things leak worse intentionally?
Have we lost our minds completely... ?
I mean, I've lost mine but I didn't realize that everyone else had as well.
The real problem is the mud. So to more or less balance pressure at the bottom of the hole, you need the drilling mud to be so heavy that I really donno how to make it. Hmm a lubricating coolant with the density of aluminum that can be pumped around at sea level on the surface like water... Oh and it has to be stable around 600 degrees F (which is why they gave up on Kola). So anything other than asphalt (including teflon) will be vapor.... its just a mess.
Another fun limitation is if the bottom pressure is 10000 psi (made up) the pressure half way up is 5000 psi now can your cemented in holes survive that?
You know those engineering puzzles like from statics/dynamics class "how tall of a cylindrical flagpole can you make out of concrete / steel / CF until it buckles" well my cousins in the Louisiana petrochem industry have puzzlers like "imagine an infinite budget and you wanna dig 10 miles straight down, now write an essay explaining all the technical limitations".
Someday the tech might change to something like a vertical tunnel boring machine. Maybe thats what they're going to try. That would certainly be very interesting.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
No, it's from Austin Powers in Goldmember.
Be relentless!
I'm old enough to remember Crack in the World. Crazy old school sci-fi.
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All hail Dana Andrews!
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Yeah, I think it was from the crater of Mt. Nyiragongo, DRC, they even made a documentary about it on Nat. Geo. Region-limited Youtube link. I've seen this show, it's awesome, makes me wish I had a projector and a rocket heater to get the full experience without actually leaving my comfy chair.
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
Reminds me of what seems to routinely happen to me in Minecraft...
As soon as they have access to the surface. they're going to want green cards. Instead of the "wet foot dry foot" policy Americans have for the the cuban refugees, it could be "deep foot surface foot". Becha the Mormons are going to want to send missionaries toot sweet !
The difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to be plausible.
Wonder if they'll be using anything similar to this: http://www.google.com/patents?id=PdAuAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
Apparently, it's a subterranean atomic drill. Quite interesting, and quite old. If it -- or similar technology -- ever was employed, I suspect it has evolved since.
Forward! -- Emperor Norton, 2012
Balrog
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/360436/were-sorry
to what end? For what purpose?
or Carl Sagan
mod me funny
Recipe for a Planet
See also 'Project Mohole'
Ditto, thanks Kaptain.
I'm surprised to see (unless I missed it) no reference to earlier attempts, Project Moho for example.
If we've never drilled 3.7 miles below the ocean floor to the mantle, then how do we know that it exists at all? Am I the dumb one here or is it everyone else?
You talk better than you fool!
Yeah, I'm sure they're going to find investors who really want to 'Inspire and advance human knowledge.' That's what companies these days are all about.
This is a little like trying to figure out what the inside of an elephant is like by taking core samples the size of a hypodermic needle.
What will they find deep within the earth? There are only two choices: dinosaurs or zombies!
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
I believe that this is the lowest S/N ratio that I have ever seen on a Slashdot story, particularly a science story.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
It was 99% certain that mantle rocks had been brought to surface in ophiolites (obducted seafloor) and kimberlites (explosive vents). you should study these first at a vastly cheaper cost.
50 years later we have much more cost-effective drilling and want to close that 1% uncertainty gap.
Mars rocks are like this too. There about 50 meteor samples that 99% certain to come from Mars because the mineralogy and gas inclusions exactly match what Mars probes measured. But at some point we will want to and be able to retrieve actual samples to close the final uncertainty gap. The cheapest retrieval mission is estimated at about $5B, comprised of three partial missions. And far too expensive for NASA in the current budget climate.
now has a whole new meaning..
A boat was a hole in water you pore your money into. This will be way more efficient....
Do I start flaying my arms now? Danger Danger ..
Just brilliant ....
This has been done before, donkeys years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Right becasue we know we can build safety protocols to drill a hole, under miles of ocean, into what is assuredly a very highly pressurized molten ocean of mostly iron.
Why don't they just call it what it is, or rather will be? A man-made plinian or phreatomagmatic (if it develops even the tiniest leak of water into the rig) volcanic vent.
I for one welcome our first man-made volcano, although I am perplexed why none of Earth's submarine volcanoes can be utilized to examine the core.
But, I look forward to this 3.7 mile deep drilled hole. What could possibly go wrong drilling miles under the ocean looking for liquids trapped in/under the Earth's crust?
Maybe Hyundai Heavy Industries knows of a rig we can use?
Not to mention the people "escaping" but within a few miles of the chunk of Earth "blasting away" and surviving with only mussed hair and dirty clothes...
By the taping of my glasses, something geeky this way passes
I recall watching some incredibly awful movie on TV in the 1960s, where there were unexpected results from deep drilling project: giant chickens emerged from the bowels of the Earth and terrorized the population.
I just hope they plan to bring a log with a bump with a frog on it in order to plug up the hole they make, otherwise when they leave... Whoosh!
Koalas. They're telepathic. Plus, they control the weather. -Margaret
...the Earth's mantle will be coming to us in two months.
I was shocked, too. It was the first think that I thought of.
Thank God It's Only a Motion Picture!
Best of luck, but I'm unsubscribing.
So you pay for a subscription but don't have a UID and post as AC? Really?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
I can take the balance weights off your car wheel with a paperclip and the loss of balance just might make the wheel wobble enough to fall off.
It's easier to stop something moving when other forces exist to assist you, then it is to get it started all on it's own.
do you know soldiers don't march synchronized when crossing a bridge?
a small platoon on foot can take down a bridge....
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Paging Roger Zelazny...
Well, apparently, you only have to fool the majority of people for a little while.