82-Year-Old Nun Breaks Into Nuclear Facility, Contractors Blamed

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82-Year-Old Nun Breaks Into Nuclear Facility, Contractors Blamed

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday October 2, 2012 @08:12AM from the just-read-the-headline-again dept.

Lasrick writes "Private security contractors strike again, this time at the Y-12 National Security Complex. A nun, a gardener, and a housepainter cut through three security fences to find themselves 20 feet away from highly dangerous nuclear material. And of course, only one guard has been fired (the one who arguably acted the bravest and did the right thing). A Department of Energy report (PDF) on the incident found 'troubling displays of ineptitude in responding to alarms, failures to maintain critical 2 security equipment, over reliance on compensatory measures, misunderstanding of security protocols, poor communications, and weaknesses in contract and resource management.' The contractors have been put on notice, (PDF), but they still have the contracts."

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I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-02 08:15 · Score: 4, Insightful

Private security contractors strike again
Are you implying that if the security were nationalized (ala TSA) that such ineptitude would not exist?
Why the explicit blame on "private security contractors"? Why not fire any private company who is not doing their job and find one that can/will?
1. Re:I'm confused... by Krojack · 2012-10-02 08:30 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  TSA servers the purpose, it was designed to serve, very well. If the TSA were to be put in-charge of nuclear material and made clear of its purpose, I am sure it will do well.
  Say what? So you're telling me that they won't steal nuclear material and when caught try to blame it on the wife?
2. Re:I'm confused... by rmstar · 2012-10-02 08:45 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  I would also argue that various branches or sections of government don't work together very well either.
  Corporate bureaucracy tends to be deranged in worse ways than state bureaucracy.
  Modern, western countries can do very well in comparison. there is a lot to be improved, of course, but worship of the private sector is not warranted in this respect.
3. Re:I'm confused... by __aaqpaq9254 · 2012-10-02 09:13 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Actually, the point for me is, rather, not that nationalized security would be better, per se (although I think ThatsMyNick's point is well taken), but that the constant calls for privatizing things that shouldn't be privatized is really ridiculous. Companies exist to make money, and they do that by keeping costs low wherever they can, even if it means low beyond the point of reason...beyond the point of doing a good job. True, I suppose the company would eventually be fired, but only after a huge mistake (as we see here). When we are talking about national security, and a few other things I can think of, that isn't such a good idea.
4. Re:I'm confused... by Firethorn · 2012-10-02 09:14 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Why not fire any private company who is not doing their job and find one that can/will?
  The problem you get is that there is a seriously limited selection of 'private' companies that are qualified for guarding a nuclear plant. There's a semi-limited number of people capable of it as well, given that they have to be willing to work for decent(but not high) pay, while being able to get a security clearance(and handle automatic weapons) and meet the physical requirements(shooting accuracy, fitness, etc...). You're pretty much restricted to ex-military.
  Having some knowledge of government type contracting, it's been my experience that you can have the contractor change, but the people in the contract seats stay the same - with the loss of the contract, the original contractor no longer needs the people, thus lays them off(excess). The NEW contractor needs people to fulfill the contract, and wait - there's people XYZ with years of experience in the role, in the local area, has the necessary clearance($$$), etc... Hired!
  The contracted employees themselves have to brush off their resume and re-interview for their job, but it's normally a formality. They might get ~2-3 weeks of 'vacation' where they get unemployment, and a day or two of orientation on how their new employer(the actual contractor).
  After all that, I have to say that I'd rather keep the function in house. Reasons:
  1. It's not a wide field, more of a specialist position with only a couple hundred plants in the states.
  2. It's a continuous stable requirement. Contracts are for temporary things(like renovating a building, upgrading a network, etc...)
  
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5. Re:I'm confused... by Penguinisto · 2012-10-02 09:22 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Corporate bureaucracy tends to be deranged in worse ways than state bureaucracy..
  ...says the man who has never had to work with the VA Medical System, the DMV, etc...
  Half-jokes aside, there is one diff between a deranged corporation and a deranged government department: You can tell the deranged corporate department to piss off, or take them to court if their actions warrant it. Try doing that to a governmental entity and see how far that gets you.
  Even if your hypothesis were 100% correct in every aspect, a half-deranged government bureau is a hell of a lot more dangerous to individual rights and freedoms than a completely apeshit company.
  Something about having the force of law backing up the mental trouble that makes it at least two orders of magnitude more disturbing, truth be told.
  
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6. Re:I'm confused... by cusco · 2012-10-02 11:04 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  It wasn't that long ago that the US military used to secure these sites, rather than Joe's Security Guards And BBQ Pit. I'd rather see the grunts doing something boring though useful here at home rather than getting shot at somewhere they never should have been sent.
  
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7. Re:I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-02 11:37 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  When I read TFA, I interpreted "contractor" to mean the contractor operating the Y-12 facility, not the rentacops. Y-12 is run by B&W Y12, a partnership of the Babcock & Wilcox Company and Bechtel Corporation. They probably don't employ guards directly, but employ some private security outfit to provide them. I thought the criticism was leveled at B&W for the management failure, rather than at the rentacops.
OK, seriously ... by Infernal+Device · 2012-10-02 08:20 · Score: 5, Insightful

Why in the name of Oppenheimer did they fire the one guy who actually did his job, when everyone above and around him appeared to fail pretty seriously at theirs?
Admittedly, he didn't shoot anyone, which he was apparently entitled to do, but at the same time, he actually stopped any further mischief and was the only person (aside from the protesters) who didn't embarrass the whole nation.
It's a pity Joseph Heller isn't around to write his life story or something.

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1. Re:OK, seriously ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-02 08:26 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Because the honest and competent man is the safest one to fire -- the incompetent and dishonest ones usually got the job in the first place by knowing someone powerful or having dirt on someone.
2. Re:OK, seriously ... by girlintraining · 2012-10-02 08:40 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Why in the name of Oppenheimer did they fire the one guy who actually did his job, when everyone above and around him appeared to fail pretty seriously at theirs?
  Young grasshopper, when you have learned why managers punish people for bringing mistakes to the attention of their supervisors, it will be time for you to join the workforce. I've been fired several times for bringing security faults through appropriate channels -- in truth, management doesn't want to know about security problems and punish those who point them out, because once pointed out, plausible deniability goes out the window. You're making it their problem, and if there's no budget for said problem your paycheck becomes the budget for solving it. It makes them look bad and holds back their promotion opportunities -- and so while you may do the right thing, it's almost always a bad career move.
  Politics. It'll fuck you every time.
  
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