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Television Network Embeds Android Device In Magazine Ads

Revotron writes "Readers of Entertainment Weekly might be shocked to find their magazine is a good bit heavier than normal this week. US-based broadcaster CW placed an ad in Entertainment Weekly which uses a fully-functional 3G Android device, a T-Mobile SIM card, and a specialized app to display short video advertisements along with the CW Twitter feed. Writers at Mashable were willing to geek out with a Swiss Army knife and a video camera to give us all the gory details as they tore it down piece-by-piece to discover the inner workings of CW's new ad."

115 comments

  1. Where are they? by Beavertank · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, but only 1000 of the magazines contain the electronic ad, and unfortunately they seem to be hard to come by. I've looked everywhere and have yet to find one.

    1. Re:Where are they? by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Clearly, anyone who's first hearing about this from Slashdot never had a chance!

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    2. Re:Where are they? by Beavertank · · Score: 1

      Probably. I heard about it the morning they came out and went looking right then, but apparently nowhere I looked got one (or the employees had already set the one(s) they got aside for themselves).

    3. Re:Where are they? by qubezz · · Score: 5, Informative

      News of the insert was posted on September 23, so this news is hitting slashdot kinda late to actually find one. Word is that they were just in NY and LA.

    4. Re:Where are they? by No+Grand+Plan · · Score: 1

      -----------I've looked everywhere and have yet to find one.

      Then you haven't looked everywhere.

    5. Re:Where are they? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Yes, but only 1000 of the magazines contain the electronic ad, and unfortunately they seem to be hard to come by. I've looked everywhere and have yet to find one.

      Really? You think the people in the shop/delivery truck didn't grab them...?

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    6. Re:Where are they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly, anyone who's first hearing about this from Slashdot never had a chance!

      WTF is a "magazine"?

    7. Re:Where are they? by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      Naw probably just dumped them in the sewer! Man these are extra heavy this time!

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    8. Re:Where are they? by multicoregeneral · · Score: 1

      From the look of it, they make calls too. So all you really need to do is take the Simcard out of it, and put it in a new t-mobile phone. Wish I had known about this earlier.

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  2. Link to the article and video by Paska · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the direct link to the actual article and video: http://mashable.com/2012/10/02/ew-has-smartphone-inside/#92851Some-Chinese

    1. Re:Link to the article and video by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Funny

      The mystery of Android's high market share but low browser share is finally solved.

    2. Re:Link to the article and video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's the direct link to the actual article and video: http://mashable.com/2012/10/02/ ew-has-smartphone-inside/#92851Some-Chinese

      Entertainment Weekly = EW (as in disgusting).

  3. Re:Stupid by mmell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Android is the shit.

    'Nuff said.

  4. Idiot commentators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Interesting to see the tear down, but could they have found a more annoying couple of idiots for the commentary?

    1. Re:Idiot commentators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      CmdrTaco was busy.

    2. Re:Idiot commentators by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      It was pure comedy.

      What exact is an "old school USB port"? Looked like a normal mini-USB port to me (ya?)

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    3. Re:Idiot commentators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It came probably from iphone users. In apple world, anything standard or open is old school.

    4. Re:Idiot commentators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a blackberry! It'a blackberry! No, it's a phone.

      OMG! It's an Android. It's an Android!! IT'S AN ANDROID!!!!

      REFUELING!! OLD SCHOOL USB!!!

      It's a phone! IT'S A PHONE!! IT'S A PHONE!!IT'S A PHONE!! IT'S A PHONE!!

  5. Senior tech analyst? by citizenr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I like how g4tv's "Senior tech analyst" cant tell lcd display from camera module.
    The battery is refueling? WHAT? Watching that video is painful.

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    1. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I know, i was cringing, they guy also seems like a bit of a prick.
      The girl does seems more knowledgeable and alot better composed.

    2. Re:Senior tech analyst? by mastershake82 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Seconded... they can't figure out that basically, a directional style type navigation device is missing and they keep trying to navigate with what is clearly a spot for the android home, search, back, menu hotkeys.

      Only thing I was interested in was, can you take the SIM out and will it work in another device?

    3. Re:Senior tech analyst? by lomedhi · · Score: 2

      Yeah ... a second battery? You can clearly see that there is an EMPTY button battery receptacle on the small, obviously re-purposed, PCB with the activation switch.

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    4. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Keep in mind you're going into this, slouched back in your chair, with full knowledge that this thing is an Android phone.

      They're delving into this for the first time expecting maybe a more sophisticated version of the Esquire eInk cover. The last thing they expect is to find a repurposed phone with pretty much all the hardware intact. Plus they're recording it live. They're figuring out things on the spot and thinking out loud so it won't be a boringly quiet video. If you had the magazine ad in front of you and picking it apart, you too would be saying or thinking a series of "what/why the fsck is that piece there?"

    5. Re:Senior tech analyst? by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Only thing I was interested in was, can you take the SIM out and will it work in another device?

      And also what are the details of the account associated with it? How much data will you be able to download with it? On what date does the account end and the sim becomes useless?

    6. Re:Senior tech analyst? by ilikenwf · · Score: 1

      This is the result of G4, "TV for Lamers" I mean gamers...buying the once great TechTV (prior to that ZDTV), and filling it with games, rap videos, anime, and boobiez with a minute bit of tech thrown in. Of course, we can credit them for causing Leo Laporte to create TWiT and Kevin Rose to create Rev3, however I still miss ZDTV and TechTV myself.

    7. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea, but I wouldn't have said "Oh wait! What is this? A second battery!"

    8. Re:Senior tech analyst? by dadioflex · · Score: 1

      I know, i was cringing, they guy also seems like a bit of a prick. The girl does seems more knowledgeable and alot better composed.

      Sadly that's how Tech reporting works. They feel the need to have a bald man in glasses presenting, as eye-candy for the geeks. Sex sells.

    9. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever had one thing in mind but accidentally said something technically wrong, but not too far off the mark?

      Perhaps he meant to say "a place for a second battery?" I don't know, and neither do you. I just know it's easy to look over what I just typed and hit the delete key to correct trivial mistakes before I click the submit button.

    10. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are you serious? Half of her lines where repeating what he said.

    11. Re:Senior tech analyst? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like how neither of those people are employed by G4tv...

    12. Re:Senior tech analyst? by devjoe · · Score: 1

      T-Mobile does have monthly prepaid plans so I'd expect it is something like this, paid for a month starting at the time they put these things together, which means they probably have a week or so left on them now.

    13. Re:Senior tech analyst? by idontgno · · Score: 1

      But when she says it, it's sexy!

      Actually, that sounds like a "that's what she said" joke in reverse.

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  6. Only 1000 copies, so you probably won't get one by Qubit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, this is cool, but I can't go out to Barnes and Noble and pick up a copy of this week's magazine and expect to find some fun electronics inside.

    Entertainment Weekly is only producing 1,000 of these digital advertising-enhanced issues, so if you want a nearly free smartphone that, with a good deal of nudging, actually works, you better run, not walk, to your nearest newsstand.

    More info from original source @ mashable

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    1. Re:Only 1000 copies, so you probably won't get one by chalker · · Score: 2

      According to the original mashable article (http://mashable.com/2012/10/02/twitter-entertainment-weekly-ad/) The 1000 copies were only distributed in New York and Los Angeles.

  7. See this PR-SCAM before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    We've seen this type of PR SCAM many times before, once where they had e.g. e-paper devices in them, which were EXTREMELY LIMITED circulation only in NYC and LA.

    So unless these start popping up in the 100,000s of copies, PLEASE don't play into the marketers' card and just ignore it.

    1. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by bonehead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How exactly is this a scam?

      What exactly will I lose if I fall for it? And what would falling for it entail?

      I'm a little unclear on what the scam part is here.....

    2. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about your time driving to the newstand, and possibly the purchase price of a copy of the publication only to find out that the only two cities considered important enough to be included in this Willie Wonka contest are LA and NYC?

    3. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're paying attention and/or talking about the thing, (read: free press) without deriving any benefit from it. that's how.

    4. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the scam is to trick me into driving out to the news stand in hope of finding a magazine stuffed with a horribly damaged phone running in Chinese?

      Tell this to the next "Windows support" person who calls your phone. They'll get a good chuckle out of it.

    5. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Readers of Entertainment Weekly might be shocked to find their magazine is a good bit heavier than normal this week. US-based broadcaster CW placed an ad in Entertainment Weekly which uses a fully-functional 3G Android device, a T-Mobile SIM card, and a specialized app to display short video advertisements along with the CW Twitter feed. Writers at Mashable were willing to geek out with a Swiss Army knife and a video camera to give us all the gory details as they tore it down piece-by-piece to discover the inner workings of CW's new ad."

      You are being deceived. What IS the truth is that there are 1,000 copies of this magazine that have this "ad". On a circulation of 1,781,934 that is a negligible number. But the blurb makes it sound like it applies to everyone.

      This happened before, in 2009, but then it was made clear it was a very limited subset of readers that would "find their magazine a good bit heavier":
      http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/08/20/202243/a-video-ad-in-a-paper-magazine

    6. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      So a succesful marketing plan - hardly a scam

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    7. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by Applekid · · Score: 1

      I would argue that successful marketing, by definition, is a scam. It's about tricking you into thinking things you wouldn't ordinarily think, want things you wouldn't ordinarily want, and dislike things you wouldn't ordinarily dislike.

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    8. Re:See this PR-SCAM before! by scubamage · · Score: 1

      I agree. It got me to run downstairs and check the shelves of our news stand. The woman had an adorable smirk and playfully started in with, "Hmm, lookin for the fancy one! Sorry!" Ultimately it led to a fun couple minutes of conversation, a little bit of exercise, and me flipping through a magazine I've never looked at before. For a "scam" I really don't feel very scammed. In fact, I think my day is better for it.

  8. Painfull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh god that girl was horrible to listen to. Dat front facing camera..... right.

  9. Big question - Should I buy EW this week? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    Is it worthwhile buying for any reason other than "Oh look .. cool shit!"???

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    1. Re:Big question - Should I buy EW this week? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      Do you need any other reason?

      But no, not if they are already gone, and only found in NY and LA.

  10. Way to devalue the Android brand by badford · · Score: 0

    you're not going to find an ipad in a magazine anytime soon. this show Joe and Sally consumer that Android is commodotized. Don't flame me, I love Big-Bird!

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  11. Most awesom by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    That is one of the most awesome things I've ever seen!

    1. Re:Most awesom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think that's awesome, try typing porn into google image search with the safe filter off!

  12. Pssst! Hey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Zip up, your persecution complex is showing.

  13. Re:Android update cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copy the iPhone? Has apple ever made anything original. I though all they did was repackage what was already available but geared for the masses.

  14. Not that surprising by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you custom-build a board, and cost-engineer it so that it just has the components you actually need, you are spending a whole bunch of money up-front (mostly, the salaries of the engineers who do the custom board design). This will pay off if you ship a large volume. This up-front cost is called "NRE", for "non-recurring engineering costs"; the final cost of your product is NRE divided by the number of units you ship, plus the actual cost of the unit (parts and assembly).

    If you know you are shipping exactly 1000 magazines with this gimmick inside, a custom board makes no sense; the NRE would totally wipe out the per-board savings. The cheapest option would be a stack of pre-built boards that someone has lying around, maybe from a phone that was current technology two years ago. It wouldn't surprise me if the ROM contains an off-the-shelf build of Android, just with one additional app installed and set always to run at boot-up. They could have built a custom ROM image of Android, for example with the phone app removed, but why bother? (And clearly the phone app was not in fact removed, as the Mashable folks used it to place a call.)

    steveha

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    1. Re:Not that surprising by marqs · · Score: 1

      As I said in reply to another post.
      I'm fairly confident is a A810 Wcdma 3G they are using.
      It cost about $35 when buying a single unit. But you could get it for less than $25 if you buy at least 500.
      I think we may see more of this...

  15. DOH! by antdude · · Score: 1

    Crap, I got this issue and I tossed it. I didn't even know that was there! I do remember those ads pages, but not its video.

    Are they spying on us?

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    1. Re:DOH! by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Yes, of course they are.

      But probably not with this device.

  16. The guys in the video are really fucking stupid. by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know who this mashable guys are, but they are truly fucking stupid. It took them 10 minutes of staring at what was OBVIOUSLY a fucking smartphone mobo in order to realize that it was one. And they sounded surprised!. Hey, you said it was playing video and receiving tweets, so what the hell did they expect it to be, a vacuum cleaner? They also looked at what was clearly a phone camera, missing the lens and with the CCD exposed, and they where like "is that a CCD, I think it looks like a CCD. Dude, you've got something shaped like an smartphone motherboard, with a smartphone battery, a smartphone LCD, a SIM card, and a USB port, and you wonder about what it is? The funniest part is that the article introduces them as "The technical wizards at Mashable". WTF.

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  17. Re:Android update cycle by bonehead · · Score: 0

    Has apple ever made anything original.

    Actually, the iPhone, while not strictly "original", was a MASSIVE step forward in the smartphone world. At the time, the next best thing was the Treo which came with one of two crappy operating systems, and had a low-rez, stylus based touchscreen. At the time, watching SJ's keynote announcing and demonstrating the iPhone was a gigantic "Holy Shit I Want One!" moment for people like me who were trying to make real use of the smartphones of the time and being constantly frustrated by their limitations. (It wasn't yet known how ridiculously locked down the iPhone ecosystem was going to turn out to be.)

    The tech in the iPhone may not have been Apple's invention, but it's not like you could just run down to your local Verizon store and buy anything remotely similar at the time. That part was all Apple.

    And, no, I'm not an Apple fan-boy. I had a 1st gen iPhone and won't ever have another. But credit's gotta go where credit's due. And, yes, anyone enjoying their Android phone today probably owes Apple a big thanks. Smartphones wouldn't be anywhere near where they are today had the iPhone not changed the rules of the game.

  18. So why are smart phones so expensive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If the innards are cheap enough that you can gut a phone and put it in a cheap magazine, how come cell phones cost so much? I call bullshit on $600.

    1. Re:So why are smart phones so expensive. by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      Bottom of the barrel smartphones are not that expensive, closer to $200 maybe less than that. Still too much to include in regular copies of a magazine though.

      This was NOT in most copies of the magazine, it was in a tiny fraction and seems pretty clearly to have been done as a publicity stunt.

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    2. Re:So why are smart phones so expensive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android based phones are priced at less than $40 now in retail stores in China.So I guess with removing some stuff that they didn't need, this could come down to $20 and less. The publicity stunt would have cost $20,000, which is less than a few online ads and they get free exposure for it by noteable media outlets.

    3. Re:So why are smart phones so expensive. by marqs · · Score: 1

      I think i found the model they where using A810 Wcdma 3G. It cost about $35 when buying a single unit.
      But you could get it for less than $25 if you order atleast 500, and i also think you could reduce that price when buying without the cover. If they did well in negotiating I'm guessing around $10-20/unit

    4. Re:So why are smart phones so expensive. by jonwil · · Score: 1

      Looking at this example of a bottom-of-the-barrel phone and saying "hey, how come fancy smartphones cost so much" is like looking at the cheapest of Chinese-made cars and saying "how come that BMW over there costs so much"

    5. Re:So why are smart phones so expensive. by scubamage · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The lens on the CCD most likely would be a significant expense. I'm honestly surprised they included a LI-ION battery (looks to be ~1000-1500mAh) when they could have used a few 1.5v batteries watch batteries for cheaper. Second highest expense for the unit was probably the LCD display.

  19. Re:Stupid by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Insightful

    but imagine if I had said "iPhone is the shit". Oh, gee, I'd be a stupid fanboy, right?

    If iOS was free and flexible enough for a project like this, you'd have a point. It would be "the shit". But it's not, it's locked-down proprietary garbage meant to keep Apple in control of every device that runs it.

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  20. so who will get hit with roaming fees if this used by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    so who will get hit with roaming fees if this is used out side of the USA???

    and can I call overseas with it's sim as well?

  21. My Name is Judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why was my first thought of Gob putting this in Franklin to make him talk?

    1. Re:My Name is Judge by neminem · · Score: 1

      Because you've watched too much Arrested Development? (Great show, though. New season coming out early next year! Everyone watch it!)

  22. well you can start a premium rate text messages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well you can start a premium rate text messages systems can use this phones SIM card to sign up for it.

  23. what about the LIVE SIM card and not removeing by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    what about the LIVE SIM card and not removing the phone app removed and rest of the OS can put the CW on the hook for all kinds of phone fees and they better hope some does not say pick this up and goes out side of the usa and then CW is paying like $20 a meg for data.

    1. Re:what about the LIVE SIM card and not removeing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they used prepaid SIMs from T-Mobile/AT&T or Tracphone they have nothing to worry about. Their expense is fixed at the point of sale.

    2. Re:what about the LIVE SIM card and not removeing by Splab · · Score: 1

      Yes, because if the OS is exposed, all sim cards are in rape me mode?
      First of all, roaming is something you must enable on the sim card profile, this can be restricted by the pin2 code and/or on operator level.
      Secondly, depending on technology on the operator side, it's fairly easy to restrict the card to x MB of data and disable mobile calls.

    3. Re:what about the LIVE SIM card and not removeing by scubamage · · Score: 1

      Correct. The SIM card just identifies the profile, all of the features that the card is/isn't allowed to use are stored on the provider's side in the HSS/database server.

  24. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Only thing I can think is they are playing down to the lowest common denominator, in which case, dumb or smart, they are pretty good actors.

  25. Re:Stupid by Swampash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Android was designed as an advertising channel. Seems to be working as intended.

  26. Multitool geek by Stephen+Gilbert · · Score: 2

    Writers at Mashable were willing to geek out with a Swiss Army knife and a video camera...

    Since we're geeking out, let's get our tools right. it's a Leatherman Squirt.

    1. Re:Multitool geek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I really wish you wouldn't get your tool out in public.....

    2. Re:Multitool geek by lxs · · Score: 1

      Especially the one named "Leatherman Squirt".

  27. good thing directv dropped this crap and pulled VS by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    good thing directv dropped this crap and pulled VS for some time about 2 years ago.

    Comcast sucks and NBC will soon be pulled down to the same level of crap.

  28. Re:Android update cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has apple ever made anything original.

    Actually, the iPhone, while not strictly "original", was a MASSIVE step forward in the smartphone world. At the time, the next best thing was the Treo which came with one of two crappy operating systems, and had a low-rez, stylus based touchscreen.

    Maybe in the US. The rest of the world had the E90. The only bit of tech the iPhone newly introduced to the smartphone market was the stylus- and glove-proof capacitive touchscreen, and whether that's even an improvement or not depends totally on your use cases.

  29. Recycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happened to the electronic recycling initiatives?

    What happens when you push a lithium battery through a paper recycling plant?

    1. Re:Recycling? by scubamage · · Score: 1

      You end up with lithium paper!

  30. Re:Stupid by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I agree It's a shame Apple won't open up iOS so that we can fill up our landfills with magazine advertisements that are capable of phoning home.

    But, hey, it's running Android! Fap fap fap!

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  31. Re:Stupid by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Android is Linux...without all the good stuff.

  32. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by flimflammer · · Score: 1

    Obviously calling them technical wizards was in jest, but you had to go and take everything at face value. Are you related to buzz killington?

  33. Re:Stupid by santax · · Score: 1

    Yeah yeah, btw, lovely purple picture you have there, is that an acid-filter?

  34. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If 1000 copies can fill landfills I'd be supprised.

    More like this kept 1000 shit phones out of the landfills and in the hands of collectors.

  35. Re:Stupid by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1
    Is Apple paying for Mod points or something???

    How in the planet of fuck did this get modded up?

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  36. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by jimicus · · Score: 2

    They spent most of those 10 minutes saying "It looks like a blackberry". So I don't think it's fair to say they didn't know it was a smartphone.

  37. PR Stupidity by evilviper · · Score: 1

    I'd think they'd get a better, more wide-ranging PR boost if they just stuck $50 bills in their magazines instead. Everyone will try to be one of the lucky 1,000 people who gets one, and most will fail to do so.

    Really, if you want a low-end Android device, you can get one for damn near nothing. How about an Alcatel Venture from Virgin Mobile for $50... No contract, buy as many as you want, ready to use Android device. Or how about a 7" Tablet for $50 from everybody's favorite retailer?

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  38. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [iOS is] locked-down proprietary garbage

    On my Android phone I need to change some paramters in dhcp.conf. It is apparently owned by root.

    To do so, I apparently need to identify a vulnerability in a binary which will lead to root privilege escalation.

    What's locked-down now?

  39. Want to see the PHONE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a bunch of wazzocks!

    A search with your favourite search engine (in Image), using "chinese android blackberry clone" will return an Android phone that is mighty like the motherboard in the teardown. If the clueless technologists had done that, they wouldn't have had to puzzle about which key did what....

    Can I have their job please?

  40. Re:Stupid by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

    Android is Linux...without all the good stuff.

    But it's still linux, and that's plenty good enough 'round these parts, fella.

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  41. Privacy concerns? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And no one is going to question how they're using this to track and monitor their readers? Here, have this advertising device that's capable of recording audio and video data and transmitting it back to us along with it's current location. What? Why would advertisers have any interesting in collecting data like that? You're just paranoid

  42. OMG - It's a phone! by trevc · · Score: 1

    It's a phone, it's a phone, it's a phone!! With two batteries and an old school USB port and a KEYBOARD!!!! AND A SPEAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. Re:Android update cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copy the iPhone? Has apple ever made anything original. I though all they did was repackage what was already available but geared for the masses.

    Apple is suing me for my gold-plated butt plug business. Apparently they think they have a patent on expensive crap for assholes.

  44. Re:Stupid by Applekid · · Score: 1

    [iOS is] locked-down proprietary garbage

    On my Android phone I need to change some paramters in dhcp.conf. It is apparently owned by root.

    To do so, I apparently need to identify a vulnerability in a binary which will lead to root privilege escalation.

    What's locked-down now?

    Why did you buy your phone from such a consumer-hostile company if you wanted to do such things? If you want Android, you have plenty to choose from, the complete continuum from locked down systems that brick or factory reset themselves after installing an unauthorized bootstrap all the way to ones where you just plug it in and do a few adb commands. That's part of the beauty: you have choice.

    With Apple you have no choice, at least non-superficial choices. You can get the locked down iPhone 5 in black or the locked down iPhone 5 in white.

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    More Twoson than Cupertino
  45. She Compels You.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a phone, it's a phone, it's a phone!!
    With two batteries and an old school USB port and a KEYBOARD!!!!
    AND A SPEAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    She compels you to want to choke the shit out of her.

  46. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Android is shit" (-1 Troll)

    "Android is the shit" (+5 Insightful)

    I get the feeling that the Slashdot editors (you know, the guys with unlimited mod points), are actually Google employees.

  47. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by scubamage · · Score: 2
    You've obviously never broken down mystery technology before. It's very easy to armchair QB when you have a headline in front of you saying "TELEVISION NETWORK EMBEDS ANDROID DEVICE..." These folks didn't have that benefit. You're suffering from a commonly experienced psychological phenomenon called "hindsight bias." The fact is, in 10 minutes they took the device and were able to largely ID it. That's pretty good.

    If you think you can do better, by all means open a tech website, have a better product to appeal to the masses, and steal all of their viewers away with your amazing tech savvy (since you can do it better than them). Until you prove your prowess, though, kindly STFU.

  48. Re:so who will get hit with roaming fees if this u by scubamage · · Score: 1
    No one. They're most likely A) using prepaid SIMs, B) not set up on the provider's side to be allowed service from international origins. The SIM just acts as an identifier, it doesn't actually provide service. When the device registers on the provider's network, the SIM is used as an identifier to the Home Subscriber Service (HSS), which stores all of the feature information. In most cases this information will get cached in a call application server which actually provides telephony service. If a call comes in for the phone number, the subscriber's profile will show the device either not registered or as registered from international places, and drop the call. Same would happen if the device is trying to initiate a call from an international origin.

    I think a bigger use for these guys would be as a source for spammers to generate legitimate phone verified email accounts, facebook accounts, twitter accounts, etc. There's been a bit of a drop off in that lately as SIM's get harder to purchase cheaply in bulk.

  49. Re:Stupid by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    Yeah yeah, btw, lovely purple picture you have there, is that an acid-filter?

    Lol. Somebody is jealous of the purple pictures...

  50. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've noticed that Fandroids don't like to discuss the whole topic of 'phoning home'

  51. Lol, I think it's some sort of Phone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the comments on the site. They really hate the female.

  52. Re:Stupid and wasteful by epSos-de · · Score: 1

    Nobody complained about the environmental side. Yes, it is cool to find a half digested phone for free, but many of those phones will actually land in the trash after 60 seconds of use. We were promised to get disposable advert displays in the future, but all we get is a fake.

  53. Cheapskate WB... by unfortunateson · · Score: 1

    ... only put 1000 of these on newsstands in NY and LA. Nothing in flyover country, nothing for subscribers.
    I've been looking all over for one of these for tinkering -- should be possible to sideload an app at the very least, and it looks like a spare BB trackball might make navigation of menus possible (I think I have an old Crackberry floating around here somewhere).

    If nothing else, this looks like a fun device to hack: break it, and you've lost a few bucks at worst, and the LiON battery alone is worth the magazine cost.

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    Design for Use, not Construction!
  54. Americhip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like this is a product of Americhip, the same company responsible for the Video-In-Print ads found in earlier magazines.

  55. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't you ask what I do for a living before assuming it doesn't involve tearing apart unknown devices?

    I own a software development company, and a big part of my day is bringing in weird shit from china, tearing it apart, figuring out what it is, how it works, identifying where it came from, going up the chain until I get to the actual manufacturer, then negotiating a bulk price.

    I do this with DVR capture cards and external capture devices (our products are linux-based, so I end up tearing apart lots of cards looking for bttv or saa compatible cards), IP Cameras (which don't really offer any documentation), android devices, complete DVRs, digital signage boxes, etc, etc, etc.

    So, yeah, it is what I do, and yeah, I'm fucking good at it.

    Regarding a tech website, well, not a website, but my company has it's own branded tech space in local TV and local radio, and yes, we are better at it too.

    So kindly STFU.

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    WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
  56. PRINT STRIKES BACK by ajdub · · Score: 1

    You think you can decimate our industry?! You think you can reduce us from journalists to mere "content creators"?! You think you can take our work and stick it in your little glowing devices?! WE'LL SHOW YOU! WE'LL TAKE YOUR LITTLE GLOWY SMARTPHONE AND GLUE IT RIGHT INSIDE OUR MAGAZINE.

  57. Re:The guys in the video are really fucking stupid by scubamage · · Score: 1

    No, not really. You're someone who breaks things down? That's great, I do it too for a fortune 500 company serving 40 million customers. And I sound a hell of a lot like those folks when I'm breaking open new kits we get in. I also know people like you who know everything, but are boring as hell to watch as they use spectrum analyzers, oscilloscopes and multimeters to trace out circuits and see how crap works. I'd rather have someone who may know a little less, but at least is entertaining to watch.