First Community Release of Diaspora
New submitter Jalfro writes "Following premature rumors of its demise, the Diaspora core team announce the release of 0.0.1.0. 'It's been a couple of exciting months for us as we've shifted over to a model of community governance. After switching over to SemVer for our versioning system, and plugging away at fixing code through our new unstable branch, we're excited to make our first release beyond the Alpha/Beta labels.'"
Yeah this will go nowhere.
I'll give them points for trying though.
I know version numbers are all relative and aren't supposed to have much meaning on their own, but their first official non alpha/beta release being marked as version 0.0.1.0 kinda tells me a lot about what confidence the developers have in terms of the security and functionality of their code.
Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
I think.. wtf is Diaspora? I know i could go look it up but i shouldn't have to.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
...when announcing that Version X of something is released, to actually spare 3-4 words in the summary to give us readers a clue what the flying fuck the "something" you're talking about is, so we can decide whether we want to read further?
Even TFA manages to avoid saying what 'Diaspora' actually is or offering a link back to a descriptive page.
(To save others the trouble of Googling it's either an open-source social network, a freeware Battlestar Galactica game, a migraine-inducing SF Novel by Greg Egan or something to do with Jewish history... By a process of deduction, I'm going with the former...)
Come on guys, the point of a news site is to tell people things they don't know,.
In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
Come on. "It's" means "it is". The article should say "its" instead, since that is the possessive.
I realize I may be a bit of a stickler here, but Slashdot is a major news site (the only one I personally check with any regularity), and professionalism means not mangling the language. Especially not in ways that make already common mistakes look acceptable. Copy-editing is important.
Everybody; because it's federated.
Think about email. When you want to send mail to somebody, you just pull up your email account and do it. No fuss. You don't need to sign up for a Gmail account, a Hotmail account, an Outlook account, a Yahoo account, a gmx.net account and so on for every provider just to be able to send email to that provider's users. One account with one of them is enough to email a user of any of them.
Social networking isn't like that at the moment. You have to sign up for separate Facebook, Google+, Twitter, Nexopia, Badoo, Bebo and so on accounts just to interact with the users of those networks. This is bad.
To see why, just look at Gmail. Back when that was introduced, Hotmail was the go-to provider for free webmail. I don't know if you remember, but at the time Hotmail kinda sucked. It had an ugly, slow interface and an allowance of 2-4 MB. That was standard. Then Gmail comes along with a clean, responsive interface and a 1 GB allowance, and of course it's massively popular. Suddenly every other provider was cleaning up their UI and offering much larger allowances. Outlook.com, for instance, now has the clean, responsive interface and it doesn't even have a cap on the amount of mail you can store.
If email wasn't federated, none of that would have happened. Nobody would have used or cared about Gmail back when it had no users because, well, it had no users. You'd still be using Hotmail with its 2 MB inbox. You couldn't even set up your own server to avoid all that, because your own server would be useless for mailing Hotmail users.
Diaspora aims to bring federation to social networks, and that's why you should care about it.
Most of the visible posts are complaints about the summary not including a description.
That would indicate that the posters are too lazy to check to see if someone else had already posted it.
Pots meet kettle.
You're not perfect.
And Diaspora has been covered on here many times, so at least the submitter and the editor have an excuse.
This is a good explanation, even though I did know what Diaspora was. I usually prefer the privacy angle, but your definition really applies to a broad number of potential users.
You completely missed his point. You can only do that because email is a *federated* system. If it wasn't, your email server wouldn't talk to hotmail's email server. There would be islands of completely separate email networks, much like there is with social networks at the moment.
I know what a facebook page looks like. I know what a G+ page looks like. I know what a myspace page looks like.
What does a diaspora page look like?
Do I have to create an account to see one?
I really am asking for something that simple. I'd like to see the public portion of a diaspora page. That's it.
Everybody; because it's federated.
Just like Windows Zune is 'interoperable'...
'Federated' is not a technical term with a concrete definition. Like the term 'the cloud.' It is useful in some contexts but if it is not specified further it will always just confound a discussion.
Yes, Diaspora may be 'federated'...but that doesn't mean it is an 'online social networking alternative to facebook'...Diaspora requires an additional step...the local node...for every node in the network.
That step is enough. It will *never* compete against facebook.com or google+ because the billions out there just **don't want to set up a fucking social networking server**
Everyday users would rather go without than have to use Diaspora.
It must be just as easy to access as facebook...just from a browser or it will **never** compete on scale.
That said, I appreciate their effort.
Thank you Dave Raggett
It's been so long now that I honestly forgot what it is supposed to be. I mean I now know what it is thanks to the comments here and some research on my own, but all I can remember from the first time they announced it's creation was I was so disappointed that all I could see is a webpage with vague promises and platitudes and an email update feature that was not working. So from then till now, I honestly forgot what it was supposed to be.
For that matter I even forgot the name.
-- Wiccan Army, 13th Airborne Division "We will not fly silently into the night"
Think about email. When you want to send mail to somebody, you just pull up your email account and do it. No fuss. You don't need to sign up for a Gmail account, a Hotmail account, an Outlook account, a Yahoo account, a gmx.net account and so on for every provider just to be able to send email to that provider's users. One account with one of them is enough to email a user of any of them.
I do like your analogy. I think it spells out fairly well the problem that Diaspora is trying to solve. To extend that a bit, email also exemplifies what can go wrong with such a system. For certain definitions of the word, email is a "federated" system as well. The problem is that the "federation" was not baked in from the beginning but was added on as icing later. I don't consider that the fault of the designers. These things just weren't particularly relevant when email was conceived. As a result of this however a high percentage of the email flowing through the system is spam with forged headers, etc. with little to no actual authentication. Any attempts to lock it down are mostly a case of "closing the barn door after the horses are out". A federated social media network will need to take this into account as a number one priority item. The first pass at Diaspora by its creators failed badly in this and many other aspects. Hopefully this next version will address this.
'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
Chrissake, this installation is a royal pain in the ass. The number of convoluted steps is just plain crazy.
First, I have to walk through a long, loooong installation instruction for Debian here. Then I turn to the Notes on installing and running, only to end halfway with a crazy error message.
diaspora@sirius:~/diaspora$ bundle install --without development test heroku
Fetching gem metadata from http://rubygems.org/......
Fetching gem metadata from http://rubygems.org/..
Fetching https://github.com/plataformatec/markerb.git
error: while accessing https://github.com/plataformatec/markerb.git/info/refs
fatal: HTTP request failed /home/diaspora/diaspora has failed.
Git error: command `git clone 'https://github.com/plataformatec/markerb.git' "/home/diaspora/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p194@diaspora/cache/bundler/git/markerb-6697fe76410a3ed08ce3f5fd8ee64ebddd200665" --bare --no-hardlinks` in directory
Compiling Ruby from scratch, installing cruft in /usr/local, installing something weird called RVM.... What the fuck happened to ./configure && make && make install?
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They have EULAs?
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
I'm wondering if you think Diaspora ever will do any/all of the things you listed (AGPL, no peer review, etc)?
I want to one day set up a competing system to facebook.com and I contacted (briefly) some Diaspora people from a contact in grad school...they had their funding, signed their agreements, and were basically contract employees for the investors at that point. One could have easily predicted their doom.
However, the concept of a open/user controlled facebook option is obvious to any granny who every logs on to f/b to look at grandkid pics...the structure isn't insanely complicated...
I'm wondering if Diaspora could be part of that in its current iteration....
Thank you Dave Raggett