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Counterfeit Air Bag Racket Blows Up

Hugh Pickens writes "According to Joan Lowy of the Associated Press, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has alerted the auto repair industry that tens of thousands of car owners may be driving vehicles with counterfeit air bags, which fail to inflate properly or don't inflate at all. Although no deaths or injuries have been tied to the counterfeit bags, it's unclear whether police accident investigators would be able to identify a counterfeit bag from a genuine one. The counterfeit bags typically have been made to look like air bags from automakers, and usually include a manufacturer's logo, but government investigators believe many of the bags come from China. Auto dealerships that operate their own body shops are usually required by their franchise agreements to buy their parts, including air bags, directly from automakers and therefore are unlikely to have installed counterfeit bags. But only 37 percent of auto dealers have their own body shops, so many consumers whose vehicles have been damaged are referred by their insurance companies to auto body shops that aren't affiliated with an automaker. Safety officials will warn millions of Americans that the air bags in over 100 vehicle models could be dangerous counterfeits, telling them to have their cars and trucks inspected as soon as possible. Dai Zhensong, a Chinese citizen, had the counterfeit air bags manufactured by purchasing genuine auto air bags that were torn down and used to produce molds to manufacture the counterfeit bags. Trademark emblems were purchased through dealerships located in China and affixed to the counterfeit air bags, which were then advertised on the Guangzhou Auto Parts website and sold for approximately $50 to $70 each, far below the value of an authentic air bag. The NHTSA has made a list of automobiles available that may be at risk for having counterfeit air bags."

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  1. Well, that explains it by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was wondering why my new airbag looked so much like beach ball attached to a can of Fix-a-Flat.

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    1. Re:Well, that explains it by Jeng · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering this device performs a controlled explosion right in front of your face I would rather like my airbag to have had some form of assurance that their manufacturing techniques are sound and that they go though a rigorous QA process.

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    2. Re:Well, that explains it by thelexx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really? Sounds like a bit more than that to me:

      "While NHTSA says it has no reports of injuries or deaths linked to a counterfeit device, in its testing the counterfeit bags had "consistent malfunctioning," ranging from not deploying on impact to throwing metal shards."

      Feel free to install them in your car however and re-sell the genuine ones for a bit of quick cash.

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    3. Re:Well, that explains it by CubicleZombie · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a video of a counterfeit airbag in action. The first one just didn't work. The second one grenaded in the dummy's face. Both defective and dangerous.

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    4. Re:Well, that explains it by supervillainsf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't RTFA, but there's not a single thing in TFS saying the "counterfeits" are defective or dangerous. Indeed, no one's been hurt. Sounds like it's just a case of trademark infringement, a practice that usually saves the consumer money.

      Let me translate your post:

      "I got really poor marks in reading comprehension and am way too lazy to actually click on a link and spend a whole 2 minutes of my life reading something that isn't distilled down to LCD levels, but I really felt the need to post something that demonstrates my bias"

      Thank you for posting I am a better person for reading your intelligent comment.

    5. Re:Well, that explains it by geoskd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well then, why doesn't the article suggest performing such tests and checks, but immediately jumps to conclusion that they are all bad? Maybe they should just get certified and have the offending logos removed instead?

      Because the offending air bags were just dummy mock ups. No incendiary, no detonator, just a chunk of plastic with the logo on it. We're not talking about pirate copies, we're talking outright fraud...

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    6. Re:Well, that explains it by tragedy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I didn't actually see that anywhere in the article. It did say that some fired shards of plastic or failed to inflate fully during testing. They don't say how well they actually compare to other airbags which very well may experience the same kinds of problems in some tests.

    7. Re:Well, that explains it by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Many counterfeits are manufactured on the same assembly lines that produce the real stuff. These suppliers are under strict contract that they are not allowed to do that, but they sometimes do anyway, often using cheaper materials. So the frauds look identical because they basically are, but for the cheaper, and thus more dangerous, materials.

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    8. Re:Well, that explains it by swalve · · Score: 2, Funny

      That sounds suspiciously like onerous Obama regulations on business that are destroying America, to me. These proud businessmen are charging $1000 for a part packed in newspaper in a box that has "xmass Gnome figure" crossed out and "A1R8AG for TOYOTACAMERY" written on the side that they bought for $75 from some guy in a van. They are wealth creators! Leave 'em alone, ya commie. Also, caveat emptor, you should have known better. When the "airbag" filled with depleted uranium kills your family, don't try suing anyone either, or else you'd be a lazy goldbrick, looking to profit off of the poor businessman who's just trying to feed his family and his beleaguered insurance company.

  2. Won't be the last by Ogive17 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm in the OE service part industry. We've been dealing with counterfeit parts from China for the past decade, one of the reasons why less companies are allowing any assembly to occur there. The Chinese subsidiary companies will even cheat their own US/Japan mother company....

    I saw video comparing the counterfeit to the OE airbags. If the counterfeit bag even deployed, it was very delayed and rarely had enough pressure to actually prevent serious injury.

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    1. Re:Won't be the last by Dupple · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not just car parts. It's happening in the aircraft industry and else where. There's also the issue of refurbished parts being sold as new...

      http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=67ee8eb6-54ae-403c-bcd5-3c76b6f95506

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    2. Re:Won't be the last by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not just car parts. It's happening in the aircraft industry and else where. There's also the issue of refurbished parts being sold as new...

      Aviation is well known since the big busts in the 80s orcehstrated by fake FAA part tags and such. It was so bad it even got onto the presidential airplane (Air Force One, when he's on board).

      The FAA went around a busted a bunch of dealers of counterfeit parts because it was such a huge problem that practically every commercial jet had at least one counterfeit. Even worse, they were documented as real so no one really knew (the counterfeiters were the ones profiting - the airlines and everyone else didn't know they were buying counterfeit parts).

      When you consider a screw that costs 10 cents at Home Depot will probably cost $4-10 for aviation, the urge to counterfeit is very real. Even parts that are worn out or expired would get new coats of paint and resold as new.

      Of course, if there's anything to show for it, is to show really how capitalistic the Chinese are - if there's a way to make a buck (scamming or otherwise), they'll do it. We've seen it happen through the many recalls - lead in toys and paint, melamine in milk (watered down - but melamine added to boost protein so hide watering down), etc. If there's a way to cut a corner, they'll find it.

  3. China by Sparticus789 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    China - The first economy based of stealing other people's ideas and manufacturing it for less.

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    1. Re:China by w_dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since Japan, you mean? And Germany before that? It's a pretty well-established way of getting to an industrialized economy. The only question is if they will be able to make the leap from cheap imitation crap to cheap imitation quality.

    2. Re:China by quintus_horatius · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lets not forget the United States itself, which used to be a capital of intellectual piracy and cheap knock-offs in the 18th and 19th centuries.

    3. Re:China by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      The difference is that Japan and Germany got their acts together and started doing their own thing, and China had their act together but then stopped doing their own thing and just copying everyone else, usually badly and never with any improvement. Japanese stuff was smaller, better, and cheaper. German stuff is just as big, twice as good, and just as expensive if not twice as expensive. Chinese stuff? OK at best. I seriously miss the days of "Made in Japan" and I only barely remember them.

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    4. Re:China by quintus_horatius · · Score: 2

      When I did the search earlier, the results included How piracy built the U.S. publishing industry.

    5. Re:China by rueger · · Score: 2

      Sorry kids, but there was also a time when "Made in Japan" was synonymous with "crap." The pre-Sony days if you will.

  4. Capitalism at it's finest by enlefo · · Score: 2

    I'd be surprised if this hasn't been happening for some time. Everything else has been KIRFed, look at the variety of cheap crappy aftermarket car parts on eBay.

  5. Re:Of *course* they came from China by magarity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm a little suprised even the legit ones work properly. Manufacturers of anything in China are the same mindset of those who passed off industrial chemicals as baby milk formula. Speaking of which, watch out for packaged food in the supermarkets these days - a lot of it says 'Made in China' and it's just a matter of time before a major ingredients scandal hits.

  6. Not covered by insurance or the auto shop? by jest3r · · Score: 2

    Since the inspection and replacement is not covered by insurance or the auto shop I can only imagine that these counterfeit airbags will be on teh road for a long time.

    Considering many / most people would go through insurance to get a new airbag installed as it's typically one part of a bigger job (ie. your front bumper assembly and other parts probably needed replacing at the same time) it's strange that Insurance would not cover the inspection.

    You just paid a deductible just to get the work done and now you are being told that you need to pay to get it re-inspected and then you need to pay if the airbag is indeed a fake.

    The burden shouldn't be on the consumer unless they knowingly purchased it and installed it themselves.

  7. Re:I do not trust Chinese manufacturing, BUT .... by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    the issue in cases like this, is the pure unadulterated greed that USA and other western nations display. Combine that greed with lack of regulations and we have results just like this.

    How so? This is a bait & switch situation. US company orders a $50 part from China. Someone in China decides to send a $20 part in its' place and pocket the other $30.

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  8. Re:The time has come by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your nukes have fake Chinese slapper detonators, they won't explode on hitting the target. You'll only be supplying them with cheap extra plutonium.

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  9. Beware the air bag..... by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You even need to be careful of the legit air bags.... http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57444565-71/airbag-saves-man-then-kills-him/

    1. Re:Beware the air bag..... by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
      The best seat belt restraints are the 2 belt 'X' system, what racecar drivers u, but just getting drivers years ago to click the one "three-point" buckle was hard enough for the NTSB to do. To get drivers to click two buckles every time was asking too much.

      The history of the seat belt... http://www.stnonline.com/resources/seat-belts/the-history-of-seat-belt-development

      History of the airbag... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbag

  10. Extradition? by Bob9113 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    tens of thousands of car owners may be driving vehicles with counterfeit air bags, which fail to inflate properly or don't inflate at all. ... Dai Zhensong, a Chinese citizen, had the counterfeit air bags manufactured

    Given how hard we've been trying to extradite Kim Dotcom for facilitating copyright infringement, I assume we will be getting at least as heavy handed with China over this guy's tens of thousands of cases of attempted fraudulent homicide (or whatever it is called).

    1. Re:Extradition? by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

      Of course not. We're talking about people's lives, not money. Now maybe if Ford made an IP complaint about the airbag design, then maybe...

  11. And to think.... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    And to think...we were seriously considering giving the Chinese control of a large part of our telecommunications systems and other infrastructure.....more than they already have.

    What are our officials thinking!?!?

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    1. Re:And to think.... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are our officials thinking!?!?

      "Money. Power. Money. Power. Money. Fucking. Money. Power. Money. Power. Money. Fucking. Money. Power. Money. Power. Money. Booze."

      And so on.

      You people have *got* to stop thinking of politicians as sane, reasonable human beings. Honestly, much of the noise in the world starts to make complete sense when you just accept that.

  12. Re:They really don't work by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...the expulsion of metal shrapnel during deployment.

    Finally! I've been advocating something like this for years: install a device that ensures certain death in a crash and everyone will drive way more carefully.

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  13. Re:Of *course* they came from China by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...it's just a matter of time before a major ingredients scandal hits.

    Waddya mean 'before'?

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  14. Re:Of *course* they came from China by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, but doesn't most of the crap bought in the U.S. come from China?

  15. Re:Of *course* they came from China by SuperMooCow · · Score: 2

    Dollar stores also have a lot of food items these days, especially since they now also have $2 and $3 items.

    One thing I've noticed is that a lot of items now say "Made in PRC" instead of "Made in China".

    The good thing is, I also see a lot of items made in Italy, Germany, Netherlands, etc. We even also have items made in Canada and the USA!

  16. Re:Of *course* they came from China by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    Speaking of which, watch out for packaged food in the supermarkets these days - a lot of it says 'Made in China' and it's just a matter of time before a major ingredients scandal hits.

    Too late: Study: Most Honey Is Just Fake, Pollenless Goo

    But I wouldn't blame the Chinese only. Our own Federal government is the one to blame. As long as the fake cheaper substitutes do not kill us, our own government won't intervene.

    Vote with your feet people. Learn which stores carry fake honey. You never know what else they might be carrying that's fake. My local Safeway for instance still carries fake honey (even after the news came out), but my local Trader Joes' doesn't (it apparently never did).

  17. Imports come from everywhere by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    True, but doesn't most of the crap bought in the U.S. come from China?

    Not even remotely. Year to date in 2012 the US has imported about $235 billion in goods from China (out of ~$1323 billion total imports) which accounts for a little under 18% of total imports. Not even under the most wild definition of "most" does most of the stuff we buy come from China.

    1. Re:Imports come from everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      depends on how you define "most". if it is china vs. not-china (everyone else combined) then you are correct it is
      not more that 1/2 of total imports (18% as you say) but if the question is "which country do we import most stuff"
      than the answers is China - top of the list at 18% (then Canada @ ~14% and Mexico @ ~12%, Japan @ ~6%
      and then drops off rapidly)

    2. Re:Imports come from everywhere by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2

      Also, dollar value doesn't convey the number of items that are imported. Imagine buying $.01 widgets from China, and $1,000,000,000 luxury cars from all other places. I can imagine that less objects would come from all other places.

    3. Re:Imports come from everywhere by Coop · · Score: 4, Informative

      The share of Chinese imports gets substantially higher when you subtract oil from the total, at $400-500 billion per year.

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  18. Re:Of *course* they came from China by Zeio · · Score: 4, Informative

    China is the most dangerous country in the world today. And the information about how horrible the Chinese, despite them getting MUCH worse given the economic situation, the information flow has been nearly shut down since 2007 timeframe. There were big 60 minutes type exposes in 2007 but since then the Police State has seen that information regarding our forced consumption of Chinese Walmart Plastic with Federal Reserve Notes remains in place.

    China tires bad:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118278927863547228.html

    The organizing committee of Beijingâ(TM)s Olympic games has promised to investigate charges that official merchandise is being manufactured using child labor.

    The PRC Chinese poison dog food:
    http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/20070523/chinese_protein_export_scandal-id-104033.html

    The PRC Chinese poison toothpaste:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/02/us/02toothpaste.html?ex=1181620800&en=d26dab8b2bd85303&ei=5070

    The PRC Chinese poison Children's Toys:
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070614/thomas_recall_070614/20070614?hub=CTVNewsAt11
    http://blogs.eastbayexpress.com/92510/2007/06/thomas_why_hath_thou_forsaken.php

    Chinese Seafood Detained for Safety
    http://www.topix.com/forum/food/TFSGN6836LFM2QFV7

    Melamine put into milk formula, dog food, etc.
    http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/got-melamine-53000-chinese-children-did-in-their-milk.html

    - Cow milk so inundated with antibiotics you can not make Yogurt from it.

    - Pigs force-fed waste water.

    - Lard made from separating fats from sewage.

    Made in China: tainted food, fake drugs and dodgy paint
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,,2118920,00.html

    China Jails 2 Protestant Church Leaders
    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/china-jails-two-protestant-leaders/58150/

    The PRC Chinese government has murdered countless people:
    "DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER"
    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.TAB1.GIF
    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.FIG1.GIF

    Given modern industrial process and productivity, I don't even see how using Chinese slave labor saves that much in the face of having to crate up and ship the goods from china to consuming markets.

    The bean counters saved maybe 10% at best making product, and now with the price of shipping goods going up due to petrol, they are probably paying more to have it made in China.

    The only real reason it may never come back to the US is a host of states (NY, CA) and The Fedzilla / US government that have a long list of anti-business laws making a return to the US difficult.

    You want Made in the USA? Tell state and federal congress to stop doing everything to drive up the cost of business compared to China and India (the only two competitors that matter); stop buying Chinese crap where possible.

    Slave Labor rented at a PREMIUM with low quality results is still apparently cheaper than coming back her

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  19. What, you think they contain propellant? by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually making a counterfeit functional would cut into their profits.

    I would be surprised if these things actually contained any energetic materials at all. Probably just a short-circuited connector to fool the idiot light circuit, and an empty housing, filled with sand or whatever for weight.

    The Chinese were caught sending counterfeit circuit breakers over here a few years ago, with nothing inside but a switch. No overcurrent protection at all. They have no qualms at all about faking safety-critical devices to make a buck...

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    1. Re:What, you think they contain propellant? by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Informative

      People should be shot for such bullshit. That kind of thing kills people.

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    2. Re:What, you think they contain propellant? by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Apparently not enough of them. Time to pick up the pace.

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  20. About time this became a big story. by Vellmont · · Score: 2

    About a year and half ago I looked into buying a salvage car that was in a minor accident and repairing it myself. Cars these days have at least 6 air bags + seat belt tensioners, and having 3-4 of them blow is very common in an accident. Replacing the air bags is a MAJOR expense, so I looked into ebay and other sources of air bags. There are/were several sites that sold these bags at greatly reduced prices, in high numbers for all car makers. This didn't make a hell of a lot of sense, as they were even cheaper than junkyards. After a bit of digging I found that counterfeit bags were a problem, and the ebay bags were most likely counterfeit.

    I can't of course prove that these bags were counterfeit, but nothing else really made any sense. I actually abandoned my salvage car project after it didn't really make any financial and risk management sense. Real bags from the automaker are very expensive, and then you have to worry about screwing it all up if you DIY. In the end I didn't want to hold myself responsible for a passenger in my car being seriously injured because I wanted to save $1000.

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  21. Re:I do not trust Chinese manufacturing, BUT .... by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Yup, Clinton DID do that. In addition, he gave them permanent MFN.
    However, he was hoping that things would be on the up and up. The problem is that since that time, W, and now O, did LITTLE TO NOTHING about China cheating on all aspects of it. Even WTO has said that many issues are up with China, but all are afraid to rock the boat. And I DO point to both parties. However, it is the neo-cons that scream about dropping regulations esp. when goods come from China, AND EVEN are opposed to taking legal actions against Chinese companies. They continue to push for bills that will allow China to dump any goods here and NOT be sued.

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  22. Re:Whew, I'm safe by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    You can't afford a five year-old Hyundai Elantra?

    A 2007 Hyundai Elantra with 50,000 miles in very good condition has a private party blue book in excess of $8,000. While I could (though would not want to) finance it, I most certainly don't have $8,000 sitting around doing nothing to frivolously spend on an underpowered and unenjoyable Korean sedan.

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  23. Newton? Try Bernardus Carnotensis... by slew · · Score: 2

    (Newton euphemistically called it standing on the shoulder of giants; but we all know he's nothing but a plagiarzing punk ;-)

    Yes apparently Newton was a plagarizing punk (your words, not mine)... See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_the_shoulders_of_giants

  24. Re:Of *course* they came from China by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    That honey article is misleading -- there's nothing fake about ultra-filtered, pollenless honey. The issue was this pollenless honey was ultrafiltered so they couldn't trace the pollen back to the country of origin, China in this case.

    "Nutritional" benefit of pollen in honey that you're lacking? Puh-fucking-leeze. Issues of other kinds of contamination are valid, of course, but that can occur with "normal" pollen-a-liscious honey, too.

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  25. Re:Of *course* they came from China by stephanruby · · Score: 2

    That honey article is misleading -- there's nothing fake about ultra-filtered, pollenless honey.

    That's correct. Ultra-filtered honey isn't proof-positive that it's fake.

    However...

    [...]

    Food safety investigators from the European Union barred all shipments of honey from India because of the presence of lead and illegal animal antibiotics. Further, they found an even larger amount of honey apparently had been concocted without the help of bees, made from artificial sweeteners and then extensively filtered to remove any proof of contaminants or adulteration or indications of precisely where the honey actually originated.

    An examination of international and government shipping tallies, customs documents and interviews with some of North America’s top honey importers and brokers documented the rampant honey laundering and that a record amount of the Chinese honey was being purchased by major U.S. packers.

    Food Safety News contacted Suebee Co-Op, the nation’s oldest and largest honey packer and seller, for a response to these allegations and to learn where it gets its honey. The co-op did not respond to repeated calls and emails for comment. Calls and emails to other major honey sellers also were unreturned.

    EU Won’t Accept Honey from India

    Much of this questionable honey was officially banned beginning June 2010 by the 27 countries of the European Union and others. But on this side of the ocean, the FDA checks few of the thousands of shipments arriving through 22 American ports each year.

    According to FDA data, between January and June, just 24 honey shipments were stopped from entering the country. The agency declined to say how many loads are inspected and by whom.

    However, during that same period, the U.S. Department of Agriculture reported that almost 43 million pounds of honey entered the U.S. Of that, the Department of Commerce said 37.7 million pounds came from India, the same honey that is banned in the EU because it contained animal medicine and lead and lacked the proper paperwork to prove it didn’t come from China.

    “There are still millions of pounds of transshipped Chinese honey coming in the U.S. and it’s all coming now from India and Vietnam and everybody in the industry knows that,” said Elise Gagnon, president of Odem International, a worldwide trading house that specializes in bulk raw honey.

    The FDA says it has regulations prohibiting foods banned in other countries from entering the U.S. However, the agency said last month that it “would not know about honey that has been banned from other countries ”

    Adee called the FDA’s response “absurd.” He said the European ban against Indian honey is far from a secret.

    “Why are we the dumping ground of the world for something that’s banned in all these other countries?” asked Adee, who, with 80,000 bee colonies in five states, is the country’s largest honey producer.

    “We’re supposed to have the world’s safest food supply but we’re letting in boatloads of this adulterated honey that all these other countries know is contaminated and FDA does nothing.”

    [...]

    [Source]

    And please note that for the EU, a ban against "Indian honey" is a ban against "Chinese honey", because Chinese Honey was being re-routed through India and then the UK to take advantage of their commonwealth connection so that it could get into the EU in the first place without paying huge tariffs.

    And again, this is only circumstantial evidence, not definitive proof, but here is a video documentary on the start of mass disappearance of bees in China. http://w