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$3,000 Tata Nano Car Coming To US

walterbyrd writes "The Nano is currently powered by a 37 hp two-cylinder engine and lacks common safety features such as power steering, traction control and airbags. It was originally designed to compete in the Indian market against scooters and motorcycles. . . Along with added safety equipment, it's likely the car will get a larger, less polluting engine for export markets. Unfortunately, that means the price will increase, as well, possibly tripling by the time it goes on sale in the U.S.."

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  1. Good by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.

    There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.

      There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.

      There used to be this option known as "buying a used car," but the Lords here in the USA have ensured there is no supply of used cars in reach of their serfs^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpoor people's spending power.

      The Lords' program was called "Cash for Clunkers," and it took ~700,000 used cars off the market by literally destroying the engines intentionally (by pouring some powder directly into the engine and running it until died).

    2. Re:Good by Joce640k · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It's not just the buying, it's the fuel/insurance/repairs. Trying to keep a ten-year-old all-American auto on the road is a money pit.

      For the same price as a second hand car they could have something they can actually afford to run.

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    3. Re:Good by CaptSlaq · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "Good maintenance" is often a bit of a misnomer for many craigslist vehicles. Most of them are basically clapped out bleeders that would take double the asking price to not stain the parking spot you decide to use.

      Plus, let's be honest, how many will wrench on their own cars, or know a mechanic that will actually risk taking used parts? I know of exactly one, and he's just for hire when he's hard up for cash.

    4. Re:Good by Charliemopps · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Since when? I own 3 cars, 1989, 2001, 2002
      They all run like tops. Just because you don't have rudimentary mechanical skills does not mean those cars are money pits. The sad state of affairs in this country is there are so many people that don't even know how to take care of themselves anymore. Even basic home repairs elude them. One of my neighbors hired someone to fix their doorbell for christs sake... then complained that it cost them $200. It's an idiot tax. You should have a toolbox, and know how to change your oil, rotate your tires, plug a leak and remove and replace any device on the front of your engine (starter, water pump, power steering, etc...) If you don't know how to do these things learn. If you refuse, you're what's wrong with this country and deserve to get ripped off at the mechanics.

      The cash for clunkers program was bullshit. It took millions of salvageable parts off the market and raised the cost of repairs for everyone. It was designed to force people into buying new cars, which is foolish and short sighted. The cost of manufacturing a car from start to finish pollutes far worse than all the fuel an average car will burn in its lifetime.

  2. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by berashith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ABS is pretty much needed now. When every other car around you can stop very quickly in an emergency situation, you are very likely to crash if your stopping distance is longer than everyone else's. Even being lightweight, the tires are going to be thin and not stop as quickly as will be needed. I resisted ABS as long as I could, and had many close calls where a car in front of me was stopping without looking like they were giving a lot of thought or effort, and I was doing all I could to avoid them.

  3. Cheap = shit by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The reason it's cheap is because it's shit. Not just performance wise, this thing is made of incredibly thin sheets of metal that buckle when you apply slight pressure to them with your hand. It is basically a very slightly less unsafe scooter, or possible more unsafe because at least scooter riders realize how vulnerable they are and sometimes wear a helmet.

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    1. Re:Cheap = shit by blue_teeth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hola, Hello,

      I presume Sir, you own & drive (fully paid) a Mercedes Benz G-Class SUV.  Else, you are just acting like a silly woman bragging on handbags.

      I am in India and drive a large Japanese SUV.  Even I was curious on these Tata Nano contraptions.  Drove one out of curiosity.  It feels and drives like a car.  In urban traffic, it is perfectly capable of moving 4 normal sized adult individuals.  I repeat urban India.  Unless someone is driving a military tank, I do not see a Tata Nano getting totalled.  It's a small car capable of transporting 4 normal size people in a civilized way.

      PS:  I am still interested in your theory: Expensive = Golden Shit

      BT

  4. Not news really... by tekrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I heard several years ago that Tata was planning to bring the car to Europe and the US with a bigger engine and safety equipment and the price would be around $8000.

    The problem with that is: Nissan has figured out how to do that as well. And they have a dealership network. The Nissan Versa (base price) is about $10,000 -- and I'm sure they could figure out how to make it even cheaper if they were in a race to the bottom. But they aren't. You get a Japanese-quality vehicle for not a lot of money and it'll go on the highway.

    Basically, Tata needs to figure out how to get the Nano down to a $6000 pricetag for people to even consider it versus the Versa.

    In 2 or 3 years, the Chinese are coming: Their cars are cheap and unsafe, but priced so low that people will buy them anyhow. It will start a race to the bottom, but right now, Nissan has the lead because their car is a good value for the money, and a known name brand.

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  5. Re:Sorry guys... by suutar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I dunno. I like the trikes I've seen; if they added a windshell that would keep the rain off, I'd put it high on my list for my next car.

  6. Re:Sorry guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, because three-wheeled cars never sold well in England where they only existed to avoid regulations.

    Oh wait, they were popular as hell when they were being sold, so much so that Mr. Bean used to torture them in his shows.

  7. Lower insurance on Category L7e "Quadricycle" cars by lkcl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    there's a strange fact that people have missed, here: in France, Category L7e cars (350kg, under 20HP) actually have *less* accidents, and so the insurance is lower. the reason why, i believe, is that these cars are so underpowered and, despite passing crash tests with flying colours they "look" unsafe, that both the drivers themselves and also other road users treat them with much more caution.

    if, for example, you have a large vehicle that can do 0-60 in 9 seconds, and you are behind a small vehicle that can do 0-60 in 30, the rate of acceleration is so much what you are not used to that you would immediately realise, just from the look of the other car, that the driver in front of you is not "putting it on": his car *really* can't accelerate any quicker. automatically, you've just adjusted, slowed down, and will now be paying attention.

    increased attention means increased awareness. increased awareness means less accidents.

    so, far from being "unsafer", these Category L7e "micro-cars", apart from having insane fuel economy (100mpg is not uncommon) actually create a "sea of cautious respect" around them. this could be so much horse-shit speculation, but the insurance statistics speak for themselves.

  8. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Testing with a mix of typical drivers does show improvement on ice conditions using ABS, one reference. Snow is similar to gravel and there are times locking the tires does help. But with ice, ABS definitely helps lower stopping distance, even if it is going to be a long stopping distance either way.