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$3,000 Tata Nano Car Coming To US

walterbyrd writes "The Nano is currently powered by a 37 hp two-cylinder engine and lacks common safety features such as power steering, traction control and airbags. It was originally designed to compete in the Indian market against scooters and motorcycles. . . Along with added safety equipment, it's likely the car will get a larger, less polluting engine for export markets. Unfortunately, that means the price will increase, as well, possibly tripling by the time it goes on sale in the U.S.."

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  1. Sorry guys... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Only three years away," doesn't make this news again.

    Wake me up when one has successfully passed NHTSA crash saftey tests.

    If they were smart they'd partner with someone to make the Fiat-500 or the Ford Fiesta air-powered versions. This is a wheel not worth reinventing, to some degree literally.

    1. Re:Sorry guys... by trdrstv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wake me up when one has successfully passed NHTSA crash saftey tests.

      If they were smart they'd partner with someone to make the Fiat-500 or the Ford Fiesta air-powered versions. This is a wheel not worth reinventing, to some degree literally.

      If they were smart they'd redesign it to only have 3 wheels (2 in the front, 1 in the back). In the US it would qualify as a motorcycle and not need to pass any of the NHTSA crash saftey tests.

    2. Re:Sorry guys... by Changa_MC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I see Harley's that meet all but one of those requirements all the time! All they need to do is quintuple the price and throw an american flag on it and these things will sell like crazy.

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      Changa hates change.
    3. Re:Sorry guys... by iamgnat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uhhh...dumbass? yeah the speed limits on our freeways is 70MPH with a minimum in most places of 55MPH. Do you honestly think a 37HP vehicle is even gonna be able to meet the minimum speed?

      I'm with you.

      The reason they can get away with this cracker jack toy in India is because frankly India don't have jack shit for laws when it comes to their streets. Its well known that in most cities there that street lights and signs are treated more as "suggestions" than any kind of rule and we've all seen the truly crazy shit you'll see strapped to bikes and scooters over there, shit that if you tried it here in the USA you wouldn't make it a block before being busted.

      You're being a bit of an ass and not an entirely correct one at that, but I'm still with you.

      So please keep your elitist Eurotrash attitude to yourself, mmkay? This is an American site, with an article about a car coming to America, If you would allow that tinker toy on your roads that's YOUR business.

      Nope. Now you've lost it. This site may be owned by an American company, but I don't recall ever seeing it stated (by the owners) that it was only intended for the US market and the rest of the world wasn't welcome. There is a large IT world outside of the USA and "nerds" too. There is some argument about it being an article specific to the US market, but isn't the USA all about freedom of speech and expression?

      Of course you've let your politicians tax you to the point you pay 3 times for a liter what we pay for a gallon so frankly why anybody should listen to a people that would put up with getting assraped like that is beyond me.

      Oh now I see. You wanted to show that you're ignorant of polotics in the USA and abroad. Sorry for the confusion.

      Gas prices aren't jacked up due to taxes in Europe. They are deflated here because politicians refuse to put proper road use taxes on the gas because ignorant people like you get all up in arms and because we've been literally giving money to the oil companies (subsidies and tax breaks) to keep them lower than they should be.

      I only hope that you aren't in one of the countries that use the Euro, as it looks like that little experiment is gonna hit the shitter, might want to exchange your currency for USD now before the only thing its good for is wiping your ass. Mark my words, Greece bails by Feb, followed by Spain and Portugal, after that stick a fork.

      And you really think that the US Government is going to point and snicker if the European economy collapses like you predict? Europe and the US are the main consumers of the worlds goods. If either of their economies fail the impact will be felt through the entire world (that participates in the global economy anyway). And the US isn't exactly in a position to be laughing at other country's economic problems since we have a government (both parties are doing it) that has all but bankrupted itself and little tangible manufacturing that is desired by the rest of the world (either because we want to much for it or the "American" companies have off shored their actual manufacturing to cheaper parts of the world). And since that worked so well with tangible goods, we've been in a constant race to do it with our intelectual goods too. So yeah, we have lots of room to talk about other countries...

  2. Good by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.

    There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.

    1. Re:Good by tgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Poor people could use a new car. Too many who are making $17,000 a year working 2 jobs end up with cars that cost 50% of their paycheck just in maintaince and have to go hungry half the time if something goes wrong.

      There are many walmart workers where this would be perfect and are not fortunate like the poor in Europe or other first world countries.

      There used to be this option known as "buying a used car," but the Lords here in the USA have ensured there is no supply of used cars in reach of their serfs^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpoor people's spending power.

      The Lords' program was called "Cash for Clunkers," and it took ~700,000 used cars off the market by literally destroying the engines intentionally (by pouring some powder directly into the engine and running it until died).

      Your unsupportable political opinion aside, there are still more than enough used cars out there. The problem is not a lack of used cars, the problem is a consumption-driven culture that goes out of its way to teach people who most need to be responsible with their money to be irresponsible with their money.

    2. Re:Good by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      What a load of nonsense. There are plenty of used cars to be had. According to Wikipedia, there are around 200 million passenger cars registered in the US. And that doesn't include the 8 million motorcycles and 40 million light trucks.

      So, around 0.3% of them were destroyed, and you're gonna spout some conspiracy nonsense about evil Islamo-Commie Obama making it impossible for poor people to find used cars?

      I don't know where you got that crap from, but you need to stop listening to that source. They're poisoning you with lies.

  3. Power steering isn't a safety feature. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As recently as the 90s, power steering was still an option on many Saturns, for instance. Traction control was brand new and not even offered, and ABS brakes were a luxury that many did without, and they did just fine.

    I see nothing wrong with getting back to that sort of economy.

    1. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You hit the nail there. The fact is an average entry level automobile has luxury car features just 2 decades agol. Power sterring, airbags, remote lock, alarm, and power Windows were only available for BMWs and Cadillacs etc. Now even the crappy Ford Fiesta has all of the above.

      Americans just spend too much money on cars as the prices keep going up. The average ok car is like $23,000 (Civic, camry, Focus). The problem is the average median wage is only $28,800! (I said median and not average which doesn't include billionaires).

      This means people spend a whole years of their salary on a car just to get to work! It is even worse in the south where people buy $46,000 trucks and SUVs yet make only $13 an hour and wonder why they live paycheck to paycheck??

      Anyway this car is great for college students and poor folks or those who are sensible and do not want to see half their paycheck just go to get to work in order to look cool to their neighbors.

    2. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When every other car around you can stop very quickly in an emergency situation, you are very likely to crash if your stopping distance is longer than everyone else's

      Only if you insist on driving right up the guy in front's arse.

    3. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by timeOday · · Score: 5, Informative

      In 1990 the number of deaths per mile driven was 30 percent higher than it is now.

    4. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not possible.

      If I don't "tailgate" while commuting to/from work on the Interstate someone will simply change lanes in front of me and magically I'll be tailgating again.

      I have found this to be true in every major city I have commuted by auto in: Washington, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Dallas and Seattle.

      A space of more than about a car length between me and the car in front of me is an invitation for someone to dangerously merge.

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      Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
    5. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by Zalbik · · Score: 5, Informative

      Citation needed. Crash tests I've seen for Smarts show that they are quite survivable.

      Correct. Crash tests against fixed barriers (the standard test quoted by manufacturers), indicate good survivability.

      However, crash tests against even mid-sized sedans indicate very poor results for a smart car:
        http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr041409.html

      Keep in mind that cars are typically manufactured to specifically perform well on the standardized barrier crash-test. It's similar to how CPU's are designed to specifically perform well on standardized benchmarks.

      Damnit, I just used a computer analogy in a story about cars....somehow, that just...feels....wrong.....

    6. Re:Power steering isn't a safety feature. by jabberw0k · · Score: 5, Informative

      You need to leave even more space. Two seconds behind the car in front of you. And if he is tail-gating, his two seconds; and if the car in front of him is tail-gating, another two seconds again. Once you leave that six seconds in front of you, not enough cars can pass you to fill the space, so you can easily keep a five or six second gap. Try it. Works for me, has for decades.

  4. Re:OK, triple the price by TheSync · · Score: 5, Informative

    The VW Beetle came to the US, if memory serves, at $1666 in 1960s dollars.

    Inflation Calculator says "What cost $1666 in 1960 would cost $12476.90 in 2011."

  5. Or How to Do 20MPH on a Freeway by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So lift off the throttle a little for a moment, let the gap open up a bit,

    And then another car goes in front of you, and you lift up again...

    if the safe gap is too large you cannot maintain a safe gap.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  6. Re:Cheap = shit by blue_teeth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hola, Hello,

    I presume Sir, you own & drive (fully paid) a Mercedes Benz G-Class SUV.  Else, you are just acting like a silly woman bragging on handbags.

    I am in India and drive a large Japanese SUV.  Even I was curious on these Tata Nano contraptions.  Drove one out of curiosity.  It feels and drives like a car.  In urban traffic, it is perfectly capable of moving 4 normal sized adult individuals.  I repeat urban India.  Unless someone is driving a military tank, I do not see a Tata Nano getting totalled.  It's a small car capable of transporting 4 normal size people in a civilized way.

    PS:  I am still interested in your theory: Expensive = Golden Shit

    BT