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These 19th Century Postcards Predicted Our Future

kkleiner writes "Starting in 1899, a commercial artist named Jean-Marc Côté and other artists were hired to create a series of picture cards to depict how life in France would look in a century's time. Sadly, they were never actually distributed. However, the only known set of cards to exist was discovered by Isaac Asimov, who wrote a book in 1986 called 'Futuredays' in which he presented the illustrations with commentary. What's amazing about this collection is how close their predictions were in a lot of cases, and how others are close at hand."

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  1. Predictions by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with predictions is that if you make enough of them, whether vague or detailed, you'll find some of them came true. That is not surprising in and of itself, but some people take this as proof of something. But it's not proof, because they aren't looking at all the predictions that didn't come true, or weren't close. It's all about coincidence and the laws of probability -- things that are highly improbable by themselves can become highly probable with repetition or over time. So even if one of the greatest minds of the time predicted all these things for the future that came true, we cannot consider them in isolation -- we also have to consider all the things predicted that didn't come true.

    Mr. Newton would have understood that as a scientist, and if he could be conjured up from the dead to utter a few words on this, he'd likely agree.

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    1. Re:Predictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You want to discuss amazing predictions? These postcards from 1899 predicted Nostradamus would monopolize the History Channel!

    2. Re:Predictions by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Funny

      You want to discuss amazing predictions? These postcards from 1899 predicted Nostradamus would monopolize the History Channel!

      He also predicted impossibly-thin french women doing chores for you. But you're still in mom's basement, your room is a mess, and your girlfriend, while impossibly thin, is only that way because you haven't patched the hole in her yet...

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    3. Re:Predictions by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What amazes me is the things which weren't predicted.

      The future can't be predicted with any certainty beyond only the smallest of timeframes -- the further you look out, the more likely something major that you couldn't anticipate will significantly impact the prediction being made. Nobody could have predicted in 2000 that we'd be looking at the longest period of economic downturn ever seen in this country's history (if not globally). But all it took was a few airplanes slamming into the side of some buildings to cause radical shifts in our way of life, our economy, etc. There's nothing particularly amazing about that.

      Very few got the internet, or the pervalence of pocket computing and connectivity that we take for granted 20 years later.

      Even in the late 90s, when the technology was already on the market, people still didn't see its importance. Babylon 5, considered at the time as one of the most progressive scifi shows of the era, showed people on space stations standing in line to get newspapers dispensed by computers. It was inconceivable even then that computers would replace printed media. And that was at a time when exactly that was starting to happen right under their noses.

      The future can't be predicted. That's what makes living so worthwhile: What kind of life would it be if we knew what would happen tomorrow?

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    4. Re:Predictions by obarthelemy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "all it took was a few airplanes slamming into the side of some buildings to cause radical shifts in our way of life, our economy, etc."

      I've got 2 issues with your statement:

      1- I'm not sure there have been *major shifts* in your way of life and your economy. What are you thinking about ?

      2- What changes there have been, I'm not sure where due to the planes crashing. The housing bubble was there for the pricking, it was bound to burst at some point; the banking system had been running amok on the path of max.rewards for its workers and owners regardless of risk or sense for a while (glass-steagall repeal ?); I remember back when I was in college (and that's 20 yrs back), my econ prof telling us the US Auto industry had insolvable pensions liabilities that would require a bankruptcy and/or bailouts.

      And a more general issue: that comment is very US-centric.

      There are other predictions that are easy to make:

      - A major political party embracing bigotry and idiocy can only lead to strife. Usually the bigots/idiots have to start from scratch, which makes success harder. But if they succeeded, their lies and idiocies can't sustain them in power, and they need to resort to external and internal violence. We're seeing a bit of that already.

      - Economic upheaval can lead to regime change. that's what caused the French revolution. At some point, the low and middle class will realize they are being fleeced by the corrupt and the mega-rich (and that both are often the same), and will react.

      - Dependency on foreign oil and money can only make a state economically weaker and politically more quixotic.

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  2. They missed the 3 most important inventions by Andy+Prough · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They missed the 3 inventions that have done the most to promote health and prolong human life expectancy: toilets, refrigerators, and water treatment plants.

  3. explaining our world to a 19th century person... by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many of the things we know today, and even take for granted, would be seen as pure magic to a person from the 19th century.

    Take for instance something we are all on (precariously) friendly terms with, like the integrated circuit.

    The finer points of how an IC work (such as the quantum nature of the bandgap, especially at nanoscopic scales) would be nearly incomprehensible to such a person.

    Fiberoptic communication, with such strange things as helical polarization would bake their noodles, not to mention such curious things as the GPS network. (Einstein didn't come along until much later. GPS wouldn't work without SR, due to earth's frame dragging.)

    Or even just the workings inside a cellphone, or just a microwave oven.

    They might have been able to imagin the basic concept of the device, (eg, "portable wireless telephone"), but the signal encoding stratagems used to get the most from limited commodities of wireless band? In an age without computers, the math involved would be frightening! Something like 4096bit RSA ecryption would induce nightmares. (Just the mere notion that somebody might be willing to *try* factoring a number like that would cause dumbstruck expressions of incredulity. Let alone people routinely attempting to attack the problem from a myriad of different theoretical angles, and the impetus to do so.)

    Others that would floor people from the 19th century, would be ENGINEERING microbes. They often felt that complete eradication of germs was desirable. (Just read the last part of "the time machine") As such, the very idea of creating new ones would be cognitatively jarring. Using engineered viruses for gene therapy and the like would seem backward and regressive to their views.

    Wells' time traveler would be astounded, and confounded simultaneously by our modern world.

    Here's a clever thought experiment for you: imagine H.G. Wells dropping in for a sunset view from his time machine at a nude beach, asking politely for a newspaper and being laughed at, going to a delapidated paper book library, and told by a 10 year old that he could have all the books in the entire world litterally in the palm of his hand. Expose him to the radical idea of the internet, then expose him to 4chan (or worse, a site dedicated to 'rule 34'), and reveal the shocking truth that most people use the internet for pornographic entertainment instead of personal improvement. (Remember, 19th century sexual repressedness)

    My money would be on the time traveler being convinced we are all incurably insane, rushing back to his time machine, and wondering how it all went so terribly wrong.

    Really, our world more strongly resembles the various "decadent decline" models of the fiction of their time, where people are depicted as being unacceptably vulgar, evil, and jaded. (Take for instance, the descriptions of the decadent residents of k'n-yan, from lovecraft's novels) A short, 10 minute exposure to witnessing an online FPS shooter, with 8 year olds "teabagging" people, with the conception that "this routinely happens" would surely sinch it.

    Our world would traumatize people from the 19th century.