Photo Tour of Google's Data Centers

And a video tour. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 02:36 · Score: 1

And a CBS news tour:http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133304n

Re:And a video tour. by Lennie · 2012-10-25 20:40 · Score: 1

What I found interresting is that the PUE at that facility is 1.10, the Facebook Pineville datacenter has a PUE of 1.07

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Re:And a video tour. by Lennie · 2012-10-25 20:46 · Score: 1

Seems they measure differently though:
http://gigaom.com/cloud/whose-data-centers-are-more-efficient-facebooks-or-googles/

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Wow by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 02:39 · Score: 1

This looks more like a refinery or factory than a data center. Is all of that piping just to dissipate heat? Part of a power plant?
Is this what industrial scale computing is like?

If this is true, then all other data centers and 'cloud' providers don't have /shit/ on google.

Re:And it's all for ads by PhreakinPenguin · 2012-10-17 02:42 · Score: 3, Informative

Except they offer more than search and ads. TOns of other services make up their server farms. Especially their new tech like fiber to homes and TV

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Re:And it's all for ads by TomNext70 · 2012-10-17 02:44 · Score: 4, Informative

How did that work out for them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuil

Re:And it's all for ads by __aaakhl8499 · 2012-10-17 02:44 · Score: 1

Search doesn't take that many servers. Cuil only had a few hundred machines. It's ads and "personalization" that require all the infrastructure.

Cuil had a few hundred for serving search - building the index was a different matter!

Re:You're all rick rolled now! by Dupple · 2012-10-17 02:44 · Score: 5, Funny

My god! It actually is a series of tubes!

http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/tech/8

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WarGames by ruiner13 · 2012-10-17 02:46 · Score: 1

The only thing some of those pictures were missing was the "whomp... whomp... whomp..." noise from the WOPR machine in WarGames. Nice.

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Re:WarGames by Intrepid+imaginaut · 2012-10-17 02:49 · Score: 2

They aren't giving away much from what I can see. I'd be much more interested in looking at their NOC, that would be fun.
Re:WarGames by laptop006 · 2012-10-17 15:46 · Score: 2

I work in what you'd consider to be Google's NOC.
It's just a standard office, nothing special.

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I wonder by symes · 2012-10-17 02:50 · Score: 1

Will we look back on these images in the same way we look back on early switchboard exchanges? I got to check out a 2Gb drive from the 1970s the other day - kind of made me think...

Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:03 · Score: 1

It makes me think too, I think that you're lying or misinformed.
There were no 2Gb drives in the 1970s.
Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:20 · Score: 1

A bit harsh. IBM introduced the 3380 model A in 1980. It had 2.5Gb capacity per spindle. Each spindle was the size of a washing machine drum!
Re:I wonder by vlm · 2012-10-17 03:22 · Score: 2

LOL noobs. Four IBM 3370 bolted together side by side sounds just about right for a late 70s mainframe installation. Not too big, not too small.
Probably the OP is confusing his dates. A single 3380 DASD unit stores well over two gigs, but it wasn't released until June of 1980. OP was probably still wearing disco pants and gazing at lava lamps, early 1980 is "close enough" to the 70s.

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Re:I wonder by WillHirsch · 2012-10-20 13:14 · Score: 1

Pretty obviously a typo issue not a math issue. 256 MB is indeed 0.25 GB.

Council Bluffs by Picass0 · 2012-10-17 02:51 · Score: 1

I drive by this one occasionally. The only thing you see from the road is the cooling towers. It's interesting to finally read about part of it's function:

>> "This massive antenna receives signals for our Access Services unit which brings fiber optics to residential homes all over the globe. These antennas are also the primary signal source for hundreds of TV channels that make up Google Fiber's TV service."

Google Fiber in CB Iowa? Yes please! How about dragging that line over to Omaha while you're at it?

Re:Council Bluffs by mjwalshe · 2012-10-17 07:50 · Score: 1

>>I drive by this one occasionally.

Sweet little fences aren't they :-) a more serious DC would have double fences and ones a good bit taller Martesham (the UK's bell labs) once made a visiting American MCI Engineer exclaim "Fuck its a prison" when he drove up to it
Re:Council Bluffs by Picass0 · 2012-10-18 04:50 · Score: 1

The one in CB looks like a power plant from the road. It's accoss from a trailer park, excuse me, some portable homes.
They didn't spent much on outward appearances. There is one small Google sign at the security gate. If it weren't for that you could mistake it for a manufacturing facility.
Re:Council Bluffs by guruevi · 2012-10-18 10:34 · Score: 1

Why? I don't understand why datacenters need to be hyper-secure from physical entry.
- It's far easier to get in through the electronics of a datacenter
- It's far more lucrative to get in through the electronics of a datacenter (how much will you really load up in a truck during a heist?)
- The only thing you'd be guaranteed is some cheap hardware you probably can't resell anyway, the servers themselves are probably encrypted.

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Re:And it's all for ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 02:56 · Score: 1

Cuil had a few hundred servers to serve 0.2% of internet traffic, at slow response times, and with not very good search algorithms.

There is not just some program called "Search" that someone might decide to run on their servers in order to provide search capabilities and capacity equivalent of google.

Re:And it's all for ads by telchine · 2012-10-17 03:00 · Score: 2

Search doesn't take that many servers. Cuil only had a few hundred machines.

Yeah, but they also only had a few hundred users :p

Some background information in Wired article by concealment · 2012-10-17 03:02 · Score: 4, Insightful

Journalist Stephen Levy goes into the data center itself:

"Google Throws Open Doors to Its Top-Secret Data Center"

Pretty fascinating stuff. I didn't expect the whole thing to be run on C-64s.

*straightening my tinfoil hat* by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:05 · Score: 1

Nuh-uh. Wrong. There are no search servers there at all. All those hundreds of millions searches amongst hundreds of millions pages, mail, maps, docs and all that stuff is actually served by this guy.

All the servers in that datacenter are marked "Do (no) evil #nnnn" and store whole history of your (and everybody else's) life indexed for Larry's and Sergei's (and FBI's and KGB's and ...) perusal.

I like it how you're modded up for this inanity.

Re:And it's all for ads by Quakeulf · 2012-10-17 03:08 · Score: 1

From the text:

"Our data center in The Dalles, Oregon sits on the banks of the Columbia River. Here our team members enjoy rafting, wind surfing, fishing and hiking."

Yup, all good!

Re:And it's all for ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:19 · Score: 1

It's actually quite the opposite. Ads are pretty easy to serve, but indexing and searching the entire internet in milliseconds is incredibly resource-intensive. The amount of data is orders of magnitude higher when you're dealing with that kind of data.

On top of that, there's GMail, Docs, Maps, Play, etc. etc. which all require lots of resources.

Cuil was a complete failure, I'm not sure how that's a valid example.

Re:Typo by antdude · 2012-10-17 03:19 · Score: 1

Yeah, where are the proofreaders. No spellchecker too? Sheesh! :P

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Delete my history by StripedCow · 2012-10-17 03:28 · Score: 1

It all looks impressive. But still Google seems unable to implement a simple "delete my history" button.
(Chromium has one, so why not Google search or other Google products?)

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Re:Delete my history by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:41 · Score: 3, Informative

Except that they do. See http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=465 and https://history.google.com/history/ to delete your history.
Re:Delete my history by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:58 · Score: 1

They don't want you to delete your history.
Think of it like the former Soviet Union, only today.
You become famous in some way. Google tweak their algorithm so that negative and embarrassing information about you us at the top of the search, especially if you are conservative. Google bombs to the negative they are slow to fix. Your past up for anyone who searches for it, going as far back as Google could backfill it and log it.
Fools that you are for continuing to use Google. These things are not accidental, they hide behind automation and algorithms but there are multiple humans involved when Google behaves the way it does.
Re:Delete my history by Shagg · 2012-10-17 06:08 · Score: 1

Because your history IS the product.

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Re:Delete my history by StripedCow · 2012-10-17 07:28 · Score: 1

Then some organization ought to tell them to clearly advertise their services that way.

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Re:Tape backup? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 03:36 · Score: 1

Really? Tape? Ok I'm game. Who's the tape vendor.

You can be sure it isn't Commodore.

Storm Trooper by ewrong · 2012-10-17 03:44 · Score: 4, Funny

+1 http://bit.ly/RFEHRk

Re:Storm Trooper by kinko · 2012-10-17 13:58 · Score: 1

I presume that's related to this caption from the tape library photo:
"Unlike a real library, you can't check out anything, but if you try, we have a security team standing by" :)

Color-coded piping is old hat by hackertourist · 2012-10-17 03:48 · Score: 1

The future? Color-coded piping has been used since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution.

Re:Color-coded piping is old hat by mjwalshe · 2012-10-17 07:47 · Score: 1

but they are not using standard colors looks like lets just paint them google brand colors

Terrible inteface by hackertourist · 2012-10-17 03:55 · Score: 5, Insightful

The photo tour has one of the worst interfaces I've seen for viewing photos. Hiding half of the photo caption by default? Who comes up with this idiocy?

One small redeeming feature is that they haven't hijacked the right-click with a bloody Lightbox script.

Re:Terrible inteface by mounthood · 2012-10-17 04:17 · Score: 2

The photo tour has one of the worst interfaces I've seen for viewing photos. Hiding half of the photo caption by default? Who comes up with this idiocy?
Worst. Interface. Ever. - It's slow! Collapsed text at the bottom. Little popup text links hidden in the photo. Photos are either resized or cropped.

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Re:Terrible inteface by kinko · 2012-10-17 14:03 · Score: 1

The photo tour has one of the worst interfaces I've seen for viewing photos. Hiding half of the photo caption by default? Who comes up with this idiocy?
One small redeeming feature is that they haven't hijacked the right-click with a bloody Lightbox script.
it feels like the interface was designed to work on both big monitors and hand-held devices. Can't blame them for trying.
Re:Terrible inteface by spongman · 2012-10-20 18:52 · Score: 1

it's Google, it's a beta, try to find the right Google Group to post to, i'm sure you'll get a vague response from someone@google.com in a few weeks.
Re:Terrible inteface by spongman · 2012-10-20 18:53 · Score: 1

it doesn't work in Lynx, either. WTF!?

Re:And it's all for ads by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 04:06 · Score: 1

How the hell did this nonsense get modded insightful?

They use tape! by Saint+Aardvark · 2012-10-17 04:06 · Score: 1

Ha...I recognize the panel on the tape drive here:

http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/all/18

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Re:They use tape! by Lennie · 2012-10-25 21:43 · Score: 1

Yes, they archive on tape.
I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon does it too:
http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/

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Nice but... by hugortega · 2012-10-17 04:35 · Score: 1

Too much arrogance: "where the internet lives" (the internet lives even on my little server at my house) ... and also "you're accessing one of the most powerful server networks in the known Universe" (we "know" a very tiny part of the universe).

Anyway, nice photos and ugly GUI to show it.

Re:And it's all for ads by Rui+Lopes · 2012-10-17 05:43 · Score: 1, Informative

(Googler here.) Right, and constantly crawling + re-indexing the entire Web doesn't require CPU nor memory.

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color condinated pipes ! by mjwalshe · 2012-10-17 07:46 · Score: 2

Sometimes Goolers show then naivete in strange ways er there are long established standards for pipe colors for for a very good reason - its so you know what the fuck is running through them.

http://www.pipemarkers.com/facility-pipe-marking.php

Re:color condinated pipes ! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-17 09:23 · Score: 1

Naivete? Seriously? Because you can't personally figure out what's in those pipes at a glance? They know what the pipes are for, and if they followed those standards directly, the whole room would be blue pipes and maybe some green ones. That makes their description of the pipe pictures even more relevant: the colors further tell them the purpose of the pipes, not just the contents.
Standards aren't the end all.
Re:color condinated pipes ! by motokochan · 2012-10-17 10:19 · Score: 2

Looking at the chart, and reading their descriptions, it does look like they are following insustry-standard codes for what they mention at least. The only difference is that they are painting the whole pipe, not just marking by bands.
Examples:
Picture 5 (http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/all/5)
Caption: "The blue pipes supply cold water and the red pipes return the warm water back to be cooled."
The suggested markings ("Chilled Water Supply" and "High-Temp Hot Water Return") match the colors shown. You can also see labels on the pipes over on the right of the picture fitting the description.
Picture 9 (http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/all/9)
Caption: "The bright pink pipe in this photo transfers water from the row of chillers (the green units on the left) to a outside cooling tower."
The suggested markings state that this color should be used for condensate / steam, which seems to match the description. Likewise, you can see a label to the left on the green pipe stating "Chiller Condenser Water Supply". The suggested markings indicate this would also match. The label on the yellow pipe is "Chiller Condenser Water Return", which might possibly fit with "Low-Temp Hot Water Return" as suggested on the linked page.
So, it looks like they are following standard conventions as close as possible. Keep in mind this tour isn't just for people who live and breathe pipe standards, it's also for the average person too and is meant to be a little fun.
Re:color condinated pipes ! by thegarbz · 2012-10-18 00:20 · Score: 3, Insightful

its so you know what the fuck is running through them.
Which is relevant to some idiot plumber called out to fix a leaking pipe in some standard looking government building, not to a closed building serviced and maintained by trained staff on site.
Who the hell cares what colour they paint them or what the industry standards say as long as the people who maintain the system know?
Re:color condinated pipes ! by mjwalshe · 2012-10-24 08:30 · Score: 1

what happens if theirs a fire and the local volunteer fire department don't know what the hell is in those pipes - not every one has the luxury of your own in house fire crews like we had at CIT.
Re:color condinated pipes ! by thegarbz · 2012-10-24 21:07 · Score: 1

Quite simple. They burn, as they should for attempting to try and find a fire hydrant in the cooling water / utilities room.
There are very simple rules on this. You don't go inside a burning building looking for a tap. All burning buildings have hydrants on the OUTSIDE. Something about not being able to drive the truck through the front door.
Re:color condinated pipes ! by mjwalshe · 2012-10-28 10:06 · Score: 1

Its more if they are going in to rescue people fire fighters need to know exactly what is in there so they can plan accordingly
Re:color condinated pipes ! by thegarbz · 2012-10-28 22:51 · Score: 1

Only if it's hazardous, and if it is it should be on a hazardous material register accessible to them without going into the building.
Mind you in the grand scheme of things a chiller in a datacentre is not very dangerous at all and there's nothing in those pipes that remotely compare to what a firefighter may deal with at a chemical plant of an industrial manufacture facility.

Re:You're all rick rolled now! by epSos-de · 2012-10-17 09:27 · Score: 2

Google is selling services and access to those server factories. They need to advertise them to common folks. This is why the tubes had to be instilled, becasue the Internet is obviously connected by tubes.

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Re:Hmm, where to start. by msoftsucks · 2012-10-17 21:44 · Score: 1

Cold air comes from the floor, which stays at server height. Hot air rises. They don't cool the whole area. They contain the cool air using the plastic curtains, which then gets sucked in over to the "hot" zone by the server, thus cooling it.

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Re:You're all rick rolled now! by spongman · 2012-10-20 18:43 · Score: 1

these are the tubes.

Very interesting, but.... by MtViewGuy · 2012-10-21 03:05 · Score: 1

I would not want to be living near one of these data centers.

Why? Because they are the 21st Century equivalent of a major airfield, meaning if nuclear war breaks out they would be among the first targets hit in a nuclear strike.

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