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Boeing's CHAMP Missile Uses Radio Waves To Remotely Disable PCs

Dupple writes "During last week's test, a CHAMP (Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project) missile successfully disabled its target by firing high power microwaves into a building filled with computers and other electronics. 'On Oct. 16th at 10:32 a.m. MST a Boeing Phantom Works team along with members from the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) Directed Energy Directorate team, and Raytheon Ktech, suppliers of the High Power Microwave source, huddled in a conference room at Hill Air Force Base and watched the history making test unfold on a television monitor. CHAMP approached its first target and fired a burst of High Power Microwaves at a two story building built on the test range. Inside rows of personal computers and electrical systems were turned on to gauge the effects of the powerful radio waves. Seconds later the PC monitors went dark and cheers erupted in the conference room. CHAMP had successfully knocked out the computer and electrical systems in the target building. Even the television cameras set up to record the test were knocked off line without collateral damage.'"

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  1. Forget tinfoil hats by jimbodude · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need a tinfoil house!

    1. Re:Forget tinfoil hats by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2

      Sorry they made that illegal. Tried blaming it on kids eating paint chips or some crap. This is the real reason.

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  2. Faradays cage by Spectrumanalyzer · · Score: 2

    Will take care of that issue.

    1. Re:Faradays cage by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Excuse my ignorance on this one, but if the missile disrupts electrical systems, how is a Faraday cage going to help? Assuming that your generation is not self contained, would such a disruption take out the electrical system outside of the Faraday cage? And if there is a sufficient spike, still do damage to devices inside the cage? Yea, I imagine with sufficient surge protection and battery backup you might be able to withstand the attack, but in all seriousness, only a really hardened target would have a chance. In the era of asymmetric warfare, the U.S. would be unlikely to face an enemy with this type of planning and resources. And if it were symmetric conflict, I doubt the United States would be worried about such a target attack. Instead they would cripple infrastructure or simply take out the building.

      The more likely use case would be conducting a targeted raid and using a weapon like this to ensure that all security systems and communications systems were disabled right before the raid. Think Bin Laden compound.

      The even more likely scenario is that this is a way of making some companies very rich and this weapon will never see use.

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    2. Re:Faradays cage by bmo · · Score: 5, Informative

      >Excuse my ignorance on this one, but if the missile disrupts electrical systems, how is a Faraday cage going to help?

      The microwaves doesn't cause sufficient voltage spikes in the electrical power going into the building - that takes an EMP to happen. The microwaves causes voltage surges at the junction level in the microelectronics in the machine itself, where the threshold for a "fry" is much lower.

      A faraday cage, like the one that keeps you from being irradiated with 1.5kW of radio waves as you stand in front of your microwave oven waiting for the popcorn, would be sufficient to keep the electronics inside the building working. Either build a room or shield the whole building with mesh.

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    3. Re:Faradays cage by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >Nope, a Faraday cage is not 100% effective against microwaves

      Microwave oven manufacturers would disagree with you. It's not magic.

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    4. Re:Faradays cage by bmo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Power supplies, especially the ones in computers and in cameras and everything else except things like fluorescent lamp ballasts, have transistors. These transistors get fried at the junctions.

      You can't aim a microwave signal at a power line or transformer and get the desired result here. The wavelength is too short.

      Note that the fluorescent lights are still on in the room in the photograph.

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    5. Re:Faradays cage by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think you're confusing "interferes with" which merely requires ruining the signal to noise ratio by enough that you can't demod without errors, with vaporizes.

      You're talking about a temporary impairment, they're talking about the equivalent of putting your bluetooth gear in the microwave and turning it on until smoke is emitted.

      Or another analogy is the geometry of sunlight on my deck railings makes shadows aka ugly black bars on the deck, but that's a far cry from using a giant magnifying glass to burn permanent ugly black bars into my deck.

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    6. Re:Faradays cage by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would suggest wrapping your laptop in bacon.

      even if it does not protect the data, at least you get a really nice smell and lunch afterwards.

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    7. Re:Faradays cage by robot256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Further investigation will likely explain this better, but two possibilities are: Your microwave is slightly defective, or the interference is actually coming from the power cord, which the microwave is parasitically coupled to as an antenna. All sorts of electronics introduce noise on the power lines in your house, that's why they make fancy surge protectors with "filtered" outlets that reduce said noise from entering other devices.

    8. Re:Faradays cage by neonKow · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, if you don't get hit by the microwave, then you're just left with a laptop covered in lukewarm, raw bacon

    9. Re:Faradays cage by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Funny

      Depending on the laptop, it can still cook the bacon.

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    10. Re:Faradays cage by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      The problem is... Faraday cages aren't a magic wand. Real world Faraday cages aren't like the little screened off sheds thingies you see on Mythbusters.

      Real world Faraday cages have power coming into them. And HVAC systems controlling the environment inside. And communications between the equipment inside and the world outside. And doors for the occupants to enter and leave by... And all of these things can potentially allow RF energy into the "protected" volume, if they don't invalidate the protection completely.

      Real world Faraday cages are tricky and expensive to design, picky and difficult and expensive to build, and require significant care and attention in maintenance and operation.

  3. Yea!... I mean No. by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On the one hand I love reading about science stories. On the other, I am frankly tired of spending billions of dollars to prove the US has the biggest penis. Please cut our military spending 50 percent, focus on diplomacy and better targeted aid. Fund alternative energy to reduce our reliance on dictatorships.

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    1. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think this is a pretty good use of our military budget. It knocks out enemy electronics without collateral damage. If it hits the wrong target, no civilian casualties. Granted, it's not too difficult to shield against, but that costs a fair bit of money and not everyplace can easily be shielded. If you can take out enemy electronics, you can effectively kill their communications and even a good portion of their mobility... which are probably the two most important elements in any conflict.

    2. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by Coisiche · · Score: 3, Funny

      If it hits the wrong target, no civilian casualties.

      You killed my World of Warcraft! You bastards!

    3. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Except you don't really know Application Y at the beginning. It's usually developed afterword when people are sitting around going: We have this great technology, what else can we do with it.
      It's a focused RnD. Often int Project X produces application A,B,C and D.

      The military doesn't build these things. Companies do. So it's not like the money is put into a pile and lit on fire. It circulates; which is key to a health economy.

      It's how spin offs happens.

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    4. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No casualties...

      Except everyone with a pacemaker.

      And everyone hooked up on life support.

      And most of the people flying through the area.

      And most of the people driving at high speed through the area.

    5. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by fifedrum · · Score: 2

      so all I have to do is move to Ecuador?1?!?

    6. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      Except everyone with a pacemaker.

      I dunno what frequency they are using exactly, but microwave radiation doesn't penetrate very deep into human skin, so it might not do any damage at all. And it's focused, so they can avoid planes and hospitals. And cars don't automatically crash if the electronics fail, thats the reason EMP is used against fleeing vehicles.

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    7. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      I like how they used flesh-colored cylindrical bars in that graph XD

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    8. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2

      YARLY

      FTA:

      Before you start squawking about an electrical failure, Nissan says the steering wheel is connected to the rack through an emergency clutch, allowing the driver to retain control if something goes kablooey.

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    9. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I don't recall the stone age being that bad. Dating was lots easier, just needed a club.

    10. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      Ahhh, mixing personal opinion in to try and change the facts.

      It doesn't work that way. Regardless of why the bombs were dropped, they still hit their intended targets with the same level of accuracy.

      Your political views. just like all politics don't actually change facts, you just lie to make it seem like they do.

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    11. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      Its not even a little bit hard.

      When energized a solenoid disengages the clutch, which has a mechanical spring trying to force the clutch to engage.

      If the solenoid looses power, the the clutch engages, establishing a mechanical connection.

      Its a fail-SAFE.

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    12. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      You do realize that a massive portion of our infrastructure IS A MILITARY PROJECT ... right?

      You like highways? Thats funny since they exist so the military would have multiple good, solid routes incase we need to move military shit around.

      I could go on but your prejudice and ignorance will make it pointless to explain it too you.

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    13. Re:Yea!... I mean No. by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The world desperately needs a lot of new things

      Like, for example, more people with a basic education and some critical thinking skills. All the really good stuff comes easily afer that, everywhere it happens.

      The problem is that there are organizations dedicated to preventing that from happening. You know, marching into a school, dragging the teacher out into the town square, and shooting her in the head for ... teaching. Especially for teaching girls how to read and write. So, you know those guys, half a dozen of them riding around in the back of a pickup truck with AK47s? They need to be stopped from killing people who want to do things like read, write, and have a rational government with little things like constitutions and the rule of law. And guess what! Sometimes you have to use actual force to shut those guys down.

      Now, clearly you don't like the idea of surgical strikes, drones, etc., because you'd rather deal with guys like that and the camps where they gather by sending in a column of troops, armor, supply chains, and doing it all with on-the-ground firefights. Because, presumably, you'd like those guys to have lots of warning that the troops are coming, and you think that ground combat involves an acceptable (to you) number of casualties on the part of those defending the schools, and an acceptable amount of carnage and destruction from urban street-level combat. Why you'd rather have all of that mayhem and death and civilians-in-the-crossfire stuff instead of using modern technology to minimize it is a bit of a mystery. But I'm sure it all starts with your obsession with "you guys" instead of with girls who want to be educated.

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  4. Industrial terrorism by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Welcome to the age of industrial terrorism.

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    1. Re:Industrial terrorism by SirGarlon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Only if "terrorism" means "anything and everything Progrman3K disapproves of."

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    2. Re:Industrial terrorism by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      And people call me paranoid for storing my backup drives in shielded boxes.

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  5. Aluminum Foil by mbone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, the bad guys (junior grade) have to go out and buy aluminum foil to shield their gear.

    The bad guys, senior grade, are worried about Tempest and already have shielding. (Note - if a missile can knock your monitor out, and that is a worry to you, you should also assume that a drone can pick up what the monitor is displaying.)

    1. Re:Aluminum Foil by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2

      Tempest proofing is a difficult art. Things like ventalation and getting power into and select signals out make it non-trivial.

      A completely tempest proof room in a building is a giveaway that you're doing something important there.

      Also, Tempest signals are extremely low power. This is extremely high power. Look what happens to a ball of aluminum foil you put in a microwave oven. Imagine that's your shielding...

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    2. Re:Aluminum Foil by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      what idiot uses crinkled shielding?

      Cut a perfect disc of aluminum foil and press it flat. put it in the microwave... nothing happens.

      When you know how RF works you dont make mistakes like you did and assume.

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    3. Re:Aluminum Foil by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Even if the shielding is crinkled, shouldn't any objects inside insulated from the shielding still be protected? Maybe I'll try that with an old microwave and a digipet or something.

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    4. Re:Aluminum Foil by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2

      what idiot uses crinkled shielding?

      Every idiot that has to use real-world materials on hand, instead of perfect circles of aluminum.

      I stand by my original statement. In the real world, out of the lab, it's hard to make a perfect Faraday cage that's useful. Things like doors, and power conduits mess up its integrity, would allow in some of the signal that might be enough to fry your electronics.

      Simply building your special room 3 floors undergound would probably attenuate the signal enough, but there are other missiles that address that.

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  6. And the missile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So what happened to the missile? Did it land in the yard in front of the building to be taken apart and sold on the black market?

    1. Re:And the missile? by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      Self-destructed over the desert.

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  7. Its long known you can do this using microwaves... by Ogi_UnixNut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...with antennas to remotely disable machines. I've known people make them. However the issue was that 2.4GHz* would cause people to go blind if you hit them with it (due to the clear liquid in your eyes turning milky). As such I don't think this will ever be used in anything other than a war setting, and even then, if you're going to cook the occupants to death, you might as well hit them with a conventional explosive, probably a nicer way to go.

    TFA doesn't mention which microwaves they use, perhaps they other other ones which do not affect humans so much.

  8. Attack cats by SirGarlon · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what they've basically done is created a missile that does the same thing as my cat -- disables computer systems. Though since my cat is not available for deployment in a combat zone, I think the missile is the way to go.

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  9. my question is by HPHatecraft · · Score: 2

    Can this thing be used to take out the "Dancing With the Stars" and "American Idol" studios? Oh, please God.

    1. Re:my question is by cmiller173 · · Score: 2

      Seriously? Of all the Crap reality TV on, these are the ones you chose to make your point? Those two are way down the priority list from, for example #27 Real Housewives, #13 swamp people, and of course #1 Jersey Shore. But don't worry, mission planning proceeds apace.

  10. Re:No collateral damage? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3

    It's a bit like saying taking down a building has no collateral damage if it doesn't cause other buildings to collapse.

    That is exactly what it means. If it takes down the intended building, then the intended building is not collateral damage.

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  11. Argh! by Guppy06 · · Score: 2

    On Oct. 16th at 10:32 a.m. MST

    Mountain Daylight Time!

  12. Re:Comprehension Fail... by geekoid · · Score: 2

    No it isn't. Within the parameters of the test, they where expected to shut down. In this case, Collateral damage means they wouldn't be functional again. They functioned fine afterwards.

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  13. Re:What about the Liveware? by cmiller173 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Microwaves are non-ionizing, so cancer 20 years later is unlikely.

  14. Re:My computer has a tin-foil hat. by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tin foil? Everything now is ALUMINUM foil, which does nothing to block government waves! They haven't made TIN foil since WWII. Oh they SAY it was because they needed the tin for the war effort, but the truth is they discovered tin was the only effective shield against their new toys so they made sure nobody could get it anymore!

    =Smidge=

  15. Re:"Even the television cameras..." by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    how are you supposed to record electromagnetic radiation when you are shielding against electromagnetic radiation? (optical filters and/or faraday cage?)

    Waveguides are excellent high pass filters with great ultimate attenuation. If you don't believe me, do two experiments and look down the center of a straight section, and then wave a 9-volt battery on one end and a voltmeter on the other. I can't be bothered to look up circ waveguide cutoff freqs vs a standard c-mount inner diameter, but right off the top of my head a cmount hole is probably small enough to stick inside a piece of rectangular WR-42 waveguide so just tune your master blaster missile to somewhere lower than 25 or so GHz and the attenuation thru a cmount is likely to exceed 100 dB or so. Best ask a EE to model it to make sure you haven't built a coupling iris instead of a waveguide. In fact put a tiny little CCD with a pinhole lens in a small metal box that is way too small to resonate at the master blaster freq. Talk to an optician about designing the longest narrowest possible lens system aka a submarine periscope and make the tube outta metal aka a long narrow circ waveguide operating way below cutoff.

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  16. Re:Volierendraht :re: Eine kleine chicken wire by bmo · · Score: 2

    But it doesn't rhyme.

    (new englander here, we don't pronounce Rs)

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  17. Don't worry this doesn't actually work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work right near the test facility, and let me assure your PC is perfectly safe. This thing cannot shu

    1. Re:Don't worry this doesn't actually work by socceroos · · Score: 2

      Awesome! Slashdot has introduced a real time Google Wave style commenting system.

  18. Re:My computer has a tin-foil hat. by drinkypoo · · Score: 3

    Nobody uses tin for anything because it's rubbish. Also Aluminium was used heavily in and following the war for aircraft production...

    The war was great for Alcoa. They sold aluminum to Japan before (and during) the war and it was turned into Zeroes which were then used to attack American planes and ships which used their aluminum, too. Win-win.

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  19. Re:Its long known you can do this using microwaves by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    My understanding - and I am not an expert either - is that it prohibits weapons that are *intended* to cause blindness. It doesn't prohibit weapons which may cause blindness incidentially to their intended purpose, and this has come up in the past with regards to laser-guided missiles where the very high-powered targeting laser can be easily pointed into the enemy eyes to disable them while the missile closes.

  20. Re:My computer has a tin-foil hat. by budgenator · · Score: 2

    Tin Foil, 6"Wide x.001 Gauge 1Lb/Bx, Buffalo Dental Mfg Co Inc , $77.99 ! Aluminum is OK for wraping a turkey, but sometime you need the real deal.

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  21. Pandora's Box by MMORG · · Score: 2

    I love how the U.S. military keeps inventing weapon systems that are far more effectively used against us than against the sorts of enemies we face these days. Sure, we get a few year's worth of lead time where we're the only one in possession of the new toys but once it's been invented, it's just a matter of time until everyone has it. Tell, me, who has more to lose from the wide availability of this sort of missile system? The people with the heaviest reliance on computers, of course. Same goes for Stuxnet, of course, except that was even worse because that weapon system delivers its own blueprint. Thanks, guys.