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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer: Forget the iPad, Surface Is the Tablet People Want

zacharye writes "Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer undoubtedly knows that Apple has sold more than 100 million iPad tablets at this point, but according to the outspoken executive, that's not the tablet people really want. While speaking with CNBC, Ballmer said no company has built a tablet he believes customers want. 'You can go through the products from all those guys and none of them has a product that you can really use. Not Apple. Not Google. Not Amazon. Nobody has a product that lets you work and play that can be your tablet and your PC. Not at any price point,' he says."

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  1. Ballmer said that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get out!

  2. There you go again Ballmer by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Nobody has a product that lets you work and play that can be your tablet and your PC. Not at any price point,"

    That's actually a true statement. Ballmer's problem is that it is still a true statement after Surface debuts.

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    1. Re:There you go again Ballmer by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's because 'work' is almost always (except a very few niche cases) about creation, and creation without precision input devices is tedious and frustrating. Precision input in this case means a keyboard that I can type at full speed on, and a pointing device that is pixel accurate. Even with the keyboard cover that the surface uses, I don't think it meets either of those criteria.

    2. Re:There you go again Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It will be interesting to see if they actually get their sh1t together for "surface 2" or whatever they will call it. Right now Microsoft seems to be firmly in the middle of a "crap nobody wants" cycle with Windows 8 and Surface. And with Surface, I see some potential in the concept, they just fumbled the delivery badly.

  3. Re:First impressions on Surface by Literaphile · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow - that's probably the clearest example of a shill comment that I've ever seen.

  4. MS Surface problems by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Insightful

    - too expensive
      - too confusing (it's obvious that the iPad won't run Mac OS X apps, it's not obvious that the RT Surface won't run Windows apps)
      - too late

    (and I write this as a guy who'd like to replace his Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet PC w/ a Surface (Intel version, if it's possible to install Mac OS X on it)

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  5. Re:First impressions on Surface by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can't do extensive photo editing or programming on an iPad either.

    I just spent 6 weeks travelling with an iPad and the only thing it was really useful for was uploading photos I'd taken to and using it as a nice display to present the images to people I met. I did manage to edit up a video in iMovie to a reasonable degree though.

    What *killed* it for me was the crappy keyboard and the limitations of IOS. I had to download an app in order to download and play freely available, legal MP3s off Soundcloud.

    For my next trip I'm going to get a Mac Air I think, hardware wise the Surface looks exactly like it's what I want to be honest, but I'd miss OS X.

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  6. Re:First impressions on Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    DogKia,

    Your contract clearly states that your posts must be illustrated with at least 3 examples, and "appeal to the user base of the site". You did give three examples, but only two are related to the topics that Slashdot users would care about (Facebook and Twitter are commonly disparaged on this site). The "first post" bonus only applies if the main criteria are met.

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  7. Ballmer, back to the previous tablet mistake by Quila · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft has had their OS in tablets for years and they never took off. The reason: They tried to be both a tablet and a PC.

    The iPad showed tablets work great as tablets, not PCs, and vice-versa, and in one year probably sold more than all other tablets combined in history.

    Now Ballmer wants to do the combined tablet/PC again. Honest, it'll work this time.

  8. Re:Track Record by Trashcan+Romeo · · Score: 5, Funny

    How does this even warrant a post? "CEO Tells Ludicrous Falsehood To Promote His Product" isn't exactly a rare occurrence.

  9. Re:Download an app???? NO!!!! by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can do all that with a crayon, too, but I wouldn't recommend it. I've hand compiled programs into machine code with no more than a pencil and a legal pad. I've edited photos by coloring them in, or by hand-cutting masks for use in a dark room. I've written term papers with a pen and ruled notebook paper. And I have both a 1st and 3rd gen iPad.

    You can do all those things on an iPad, but it's a painful, slow, imprecise process which pales in comparison to even the most basic laptop (like my 11" Acer Timeline), and is only slightly less arduous than a root canal when compared to a fully featured computer (like my quad core i7 with a 30"+2x20" color corrected IPS monitors).

    The GP is correct - you can't do any sort of real photo editing on an iPad. Or general drawing,drafting, or handwritten note-taking for any kind of advanced or technical class that can't be done better with a pencil and paper. IMHO, Jobs missed the boat on creative types by not putting a Wacom-style digitizer over the screen. Lightroom or Photoshop on such a beast would be very cool indeed. As it is, it's no better than a crayon, which is what the best stylus is. Yes, I can touch type on it, but get into anything that requires lots of numbers or symbols and you will either become one with the shift key or decide that it's faster just to wait to get back to the office and type on a real keyboard.

    I like the iPad, and it's passable for content creation or editing for temporary or low-intensity products. It may still be as good or better than the Surface. But, on average, it's nowhere near high efficiency for technical or detailed artistic creation.

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  10. Ballmer doesn't understand the point of tablets by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By this interview, Ballmer proves what I had suspected: that Microsoft doesn't understand why tablets are popular, and what tablets are for. And this failure to understand is why they are ruining Windows, by trying to make it a "universal" OS.

    Tablets are not a substitute for a laptop or desktop PC, nor do most people want them to be. They are a more convenient and portable way of surfing the Web, listening to music, watching videos on YouTube or Netflix, playing simple games, doing Facebook, reading e-books, and so forth. They are, in short, content consumption devices. They aren't good at producing stuff, and aren't supposed to be. A tablet is not a "junior laptop" and when Microsoft tried to treat it as such with their previous attempts, they failed miserably. But nor is a desktop or laptop a scaled-up tablet; if it was, no one could ever get any work done.

    Ballmer doesn't seem to understand that for the average home user, firing up MS Office is a rare use case, and one that is easily enough satisfied by a 6-year-old system running Windows XP that the buyer sees no reason to upgrade. As for businesses, they like things the way they are; many of them would still be running Windows 2000 if they were able to. Microsoft doesn't see that the fact that they would benefit by people spending more money is irrelevant; what matters is if the buyers see the benefit in spending more money. And when it does come time to spend, they have to demonstrate why their product is better than the competitor's. It's not enough any more just for them to show up.

  11. Best thing about Surface. by Kaenneth · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got a Surface RT on launch day, and was sitting at the bus stop playing with it, and some guy ran past and grabbed it.

    I was about to give chase, but as he was running he looked at it, stopped, turned around, and gave it back saying "Sorry man, I'm so sorry for you man."

    It's basically theft-proof.

  12. Alternate Reality by runeghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ballmer continued to speak, explaining how he felt almost bad for Apple's losses after the Zune drove the iPod from the portable music player market. He then announced that Windows Vista had reached a new record of 92% market share, before taking a call on his Windows Phone and zipping off on his Segway.