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FBI Says They're Now Working 24/7 To Investigate Hackers and Network Attacks

An anonymous reader writes "The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is finally stepping up its game when it comes to hackers. Maybe it was Anonymous that did it or maybe it was statements from the US Secretary of Defense two weeks ago, but either way, the FBI is now hunting hackers 24/7." I'm happy that the FBI no longer has an investigation schedule when it comes to online crime, but I have to think that I'm not the only one who assumed they were doing this before.

74 comments

  1. Pet peeve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    can we get a 24/7 task-force after rachel from card services?

    Better yet, seal team six.

    1. Re:Pet peeve... by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      can we get a 24/7 task-force after rachel from card services?

      Better yet, seal team six.

      My understanding is this is the real reason that we sent a Seal team to Pakistan. Here is part of the transcript I intercepted.

      Team Six: It appears intelligence was not accurate.
      H Clinton: Oh no. You can't mean....
      Team Six: No, it isn't Rachel, it is just Osama.
      H Clinton: Damn
      Team Six: Aborting mission....
      Obama: Maybe we can get some good press out of this anyhow
      H Clinton: Maybe.
      Team Six: You want us to off him?
      Obama: Yeah, what the heck. It won't be the same, but I am sure it will get me some points in the approval ratings. God knows I'm not doing well right now.
      Team Six: You got it.

      and that my friends is the rest of the story.

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    2. Re:Pet peeve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn, she is one sneaky bitch!

    3. Re:Pet peeve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Pet peeve... by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      The busiest corpse in the terrorist industry!

      And if you believe the governmental narrative, the proverbial bridge is still for sale!

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    5. Re:Pet peeve... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      how can she possibly have time to call you when she's constantly on the phone with me?

  2. Downshift in spambot activity by smagruder · · Score: 1

    I've been noticing a downshift lately of spambot activity on my websites. Maybe this is why?

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    Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
    1. Re:Downshift in spambot activity by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      I've been noticing a downshift lately of spambot activity on my websites. Maybe this is why?

      I think it's unlikely any actual good has come from increased law enforcement. It's more likely that your downshift is just coincidence.

    2. Re:Downshift in spambot activity by bentit · · Score: 1

      A customer in France was claiming they were having trouble with their email....coincidence?

    3. Re:Downshift in spambot activity by smagruder · · Score: 1

      Why is that unlikely?

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    4. Re:Downshift in spambot activity by SomePgmr · · Score: 1

      I'm not the GP, but I'd guess the FBI wouldn't spend all of its time and resource tracking down, catching, and incarcerating thousands of random (and relatively harmless) spammers in Shantytown, Nigeria. At least not so much that you'd notice a big change by way of random sample.

      More likely they're trying to deal with larger criminal operations developing malware and such to steal credit cards, and getting foreign law enforcement the appropriate info to deal with them. I could be wrong though... I don't work for them or anything.

  3. Rly? by ugen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since this is /., I am not quite sure how to react - perhaps someone will enlighten me?

    Do we *like* the idea that a federal agency is taking online crime seriously and increasing its investigative efforts? Or do we decry even larger invasion of privacy by the lead-fisted government into private citizens lives? Assuming, of course, that any investigation of online crimes would have to at a very least get access to various online resources, logs and data, most likely not voluntarily shared by many parties who go to great lengths to be difficult to identify. You know what *that* means.

    1. Re:Rly? by Tanktalus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't worry. Excepting Hawaii, the US working hours are only about 10 hours long (9AM on the East coast to 5PM on the West coast), the rest have been outsourced to India and China.

      More seriously, if the FBI is using proper legal procedures, including valid (not secret) warrants, then fighting crime is perfectly valid. Well, assuming they're fighting what we'd call crime, I suppose. If they're going after small-time pirates for downloading the latest American Idol, it seems like a waste. If they're going after the guys actually trying to lure kids for child porn, or those trying to hack in to the federal government or one of the corporations that owns the federal government, then the question is why they weren't doing it before.

    2. Re:Rly? by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine it would be to defend the government most likely, last I heard the private sector was still private. Now on a 24/7 timeline working 9-5... government hours, I think we come out to let's see... 1 hour of dedicated work a day.

    3. Re:Rly? by dropadrop · · Score: 1
      As somebody who has often tried to get the FBI to investigate pretty clear hacking cases and only succeeded once, this does sound good.

      Unfortunately it could also mean they will now be using even more of those scarse resourses to investigate something silly lowering my chances even further next time.

    4. Re:Rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since this is /., I am not quite sure how to react - perhaps someone will enlighten me?

      Do we *like* the idea that a federal agency is taking online crime seriously and increasing its investigative efforts? Or do we decry even larger invasion of privacy by the lead-fisted government into private citizens lives?

      We suspect that there's a new boss who is throwing his predecessor under the bus.

    5. Re:Rly? by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 2

      It depends on who you want to troll.

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    6. Re:Rly? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Since this is /., I am not quite sure how to react - perhaps someone will enlighten me?

      Do we *like* the idea that a federal agency is taking online crime seriously and increasing its investigative efforts? Or do we decry even larger invasion of privacy by the lead-fisted government into private citizens lives? Assuming, of course, that any investigation of online crimes would have to at a very least get access to various online resources, logs and data, most likely not voluntarily shared by many parties who go to great lengths to be difficult to identify. You know what *that* means.

      Yes

    7. Re:Rly? by HPXX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was about to post a longer post but changed my mind. The conclusion I reached was: No, we don't like this since we can't trust them. As you mentioned they will have to collect data, and they will misuse it. Once they have this data, they will stray away from the original purpose and be used for solving lesser (easier) crimes in order to bring statistics up.

      How often is the data they collect actually used to attack and stop the source, rather than the distributors? Cutting a leg off won't do very much.

    8. Re:Rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do we *like* the idea that a federal agency is taking online crime seriously and increasing its investigative efforts? Or do we decry even larger invasion of privacy by the lead-fisted government into private citizens lives?

      Or do we go onto slashdot, post a false dichotomy clumsily disguised as another rhetorical rant, and get modded up +5 by default?

    9. Re:Rly? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Quite simply 24/7 represents working a global internet environment. Attacks originate from all over the globe and the absolute best way to run a honey pot is to do it live, to be at the machine when the attack is occurring to more closely monitor it and to run 'hmm' counter investigations, on the attacking IP and adjoining IP address space. In the normal working day cycle you really are on tracking local attacks which of course is still important by keeping track of the opposite side of the world is more important considering the rampant corruption in those locations ie information from intelligence agencies is more likely to bleed of into organised crime.

      Not to forget 'Anonymous' is a global target of mysterious mischief to the FBI all though after their last munificent blunder of their being the most active 'Anonymous' group on the internet, they are not playing any more. So 24/7 makes real good sense you can expect they will force some partnerships on the other side of the world in order to more readily facilitate that operation. You can either have pissed off agents with no family life working off preferred cycle or you can shift operations to a location where their off duty life is maintained whilst they are still running investigations in the US via the internet in the night cycle ie they would not be operating in the country, they would be just living in that country, whilst they are digitally operating in the US.

      Now that's more effective lateral thinking, they also gain closer access to often ignored points of attack and well as local investigatory resources. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHWLSypLFNM. Like Canada no will not be accepted as an answer.

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    10. Re:Rly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since this is /., I am not quite sure how to react - perhaps someone will enlighten me?

      Do we *like* the idea that a federal agency is taking online crime seriously and increasing its investigative efforts? Or do we decry even larger invasion of privacy by the lead-fisted government into private citizens lives? Assuming, of course, that any investigation of online crimes would have to at a very least get access to various online resources, logs and data, most likely not voluntarily shared by many parties who go to great lengths to be difficult to identify. You know what *that* means.

      Telling you how to feel or what to think is exactly the opposite of enlightening you.

  4. I'm not sure that's good news by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless the FBI's rate of doing good vs. harm in cybersecurity significantly improves, I think I would've preferred the old schedule. Not sure we need a 24/7 task force dedicated to extraditing filesharers from other countries.

    1. Re:I'm not sure that's good news by Paracelcus · · Score: 2

      They will continue to "catch" the same old dumbasses who like to take really cool sounding "hacker" names and let the people around them know how cool and powerful they are!

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    2. Re:I'm not sure that's good news by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      A spy organization monitoring the situation would note the increase in "chatter" and activity in the US government, suggesting something is up.

      I wonder.

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  5. Launch drone strikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FBI needs to launch drone strikes on hackers. After all they are pointing out security risks and we cannot allow that.

  6. Ah, the FBPI is born by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Federal Bureau of Proactive Investigation.

    Whether this is a good or bad thing is another question, considering their alliances with certain corrupt groups in the past.

  7. Callcentric by Tokolosh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hope (vainly) that they are concentrating on real problems, like the DDoS attack on Callcentric. (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/CallCentric-Victim-of-Devastating-TwoWeek-DDoS-Attack-121667?r=0.832118027416197)

    But their priorities are pobably set by the MAFIAA.

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    1. Re:Callcentric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But their priorities are probably set by the MAFIAA.

      The politicians are the source of corruption -- the FBI is just following orders.

    2. Re:Callcentric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The politicians are the source of corruption -- the FBI is just following orders."

      When your boss is corrupt and you follow "orders" then you are also currupt.

    3. Re:Callcentric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Callcentric should have been better prepared for the situation they were in. I'm not saying they could have prevented it. I get that it was not a normal DDoS attack. However they are using the government to solve an Internet problem. The Internet IS the unregulated wild west no matter how much cooperation there is between governments. Stop treating it like you can rely on the government to solve the problem. You can't, you shouldn't, and take into account the unexpected. There were things that callcentric could have done to be better prepared. The thing that pissed me off was they blamed the hackers and put the responsibility for defense on the FBI.

      The FBI can't fix callcentrics problems. Only callcentric can do that.

  8. Define hacking by arctus · · Score: 2

    The only mainstream hacking I ever hear about is usually "protest" hacking or "shock and awe" hacking against major organizations.

    I really hope the FBI is focusing more on improving their own cyber warfare capability against countries such as China that may have insidious intentions for our vulnerabilities.

    I mean, if Playstation Network gets hacked I guess its a sad day, but I really hope they're working above that level of hacking at this point.

  9. Better watch out, FBI... by Andy+Prough · · Score: 1

    Anonymous might put their Guy Fawkes masks on and you'd have a full-blown 8-person protest outside the Hoover building.

    1. Re:Better watch out, FBI... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anonymous might put their Guy Fawkes masks on and you'd have a full-blown 8-person protest outside the Hoover building.

      Oh Plz
      Easily over 9,000

    2. Re:Better watch out, FBI... by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

      Anonymous might put their Guy Fawkes masks on and you'd have a full-blown 8-person protest outside the Hoover building.

      They tried that today and got blown away...

  10. Won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have proven track record of not being able to stop Rachel at Card Holder Services; so there is no chance they could stop a more determined foe.

  11. Summary/Article Speculation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Maybe it was Anonymous that did it or maybe it was statements from the US Secretary of Defense two weeks ago

    Anonymous? They haven't done anything remotely newsworthy in a while. And even when they were getting headlines, it was the same stale, useless, ineffectual stuff they've always done. No one's losing any sleep over websites being DOSed for 15 minutes. And why would the FBI, a DoJ agency, care what the SoD has to say? Here's a better idea, maybe it's got something to do with the relatively recent and growing influx of Iranian cyberattacks?

  12. Hacking is a crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I guess I should turn myself in. I changed the ascii characters in my copy of DOS "mission imp" back in 1981. I only did it so my game would look cool and different. Leniency please!

  13. they JUST started this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well shit, they weren't before?? Who the fuck was running that place??

  14. In the US maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From personal experience I can say that even when the FBI has intel handed to them on a silver platter they simply don't care unless the compromised boxen are in the US. Having helped admin IRC networks for a very long time I can attest to the fact that someone at some point will foist a botnet onto your network. Don't bother calling the FBI if they are ADSL routers with poorly chosen defaults that happen to run Linux in a foreign country. Don't bother calling if the bot herders happen to appear to live in a foreign country either. If it's a standard botnet full of windows boxen good fucking luck because they won't give a shit either. Find them something that might make them famous though and call them, only after you've already secured the rights to the story.

    1. Re:In the US maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From personal experience I can say that even when the FBI has intel handed to them on a silver platter they simply don't care unless the compromised boxen are in the US.

      From personal experience I can say that even when the FBI has intel handed to them on a silver platter they simply don't care even when the compromised boxen are in the US.

  15. Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unless something ridiculous has changed, they've had agents dedicated to computer crime 24/7 for the last 20 years.

    From personal experience.

    The only thing in the article that's noteworthy is their shifting focus to rapid attribution. That's an incredibly difficult goal, especially given the laws regarding search and seizure. If anything raises a red flag for me, it's this. Historically law enforcement in general has always been behind due to the very nature of crime. With Internet related crime this issue is only amplified. I would love to know how they're getting around the red tape that has always slowed down investigations of this type.

    1. Re:Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would love to know how they're getting around the red tape that has always slowed down investigations of this type.

      By throwing due process and jurisdiction concerns into the shitter, wiping with the bill of rights, and flushing any semblance of justice down the toilet. But other than that, I have no strong feelings on the matter, herr komissar.

  16. Cyber Criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get it straight they are Cyber-Criminals.
    Hackers are not necessarily Criminals.
    Cyber-Criminals are not necessarily Hackers.
    Although some may be both.

  17. So are they monitoring by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    all the open door system at financial institutions to keep out the hackers instead of having those institutions fix the issue?

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  18. Fast & Furious? by RoknrolZombie · · Score: 1

    I expect they'll release spyware into the wild so that they can track it to the nefarious types that use it. They'll figure out where it went when someone dies. That's how this shit works, isn't it?

  19. CHecks and balances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have that much of a problem with what the FBI is doing - BUT, I wish there were more checks and balances than a rubber stamping judge when shown a some sort FISA warrrant - and no, as far as I'M concerned, unless _I_ see it, it's a rubber stamp: I don't trust Government - period,

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, terrorism - blah dee blah da.

    Fuck off - J. Edgar Hoover and his blackmail operations - FBI has the burden of proof that they aren't assholes. They are the SECRET POLICE of the US of A - FUCK YOU! THEY have to prove that they are doing what they are doing for America's good.

    Don't like it?!? Too fucking bad! Go work for the Russians you assholes.

    As a Libertarian, I consider YOU the Terrorists!!

    1. Re:CHecks and balances by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      hmm... all this time I thought the NSA was the secret police in this nation.

    2. Re:CHecks and balances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm... all this time I thought the NSA was the secret police in this nation.

      My understanding is that NSA are cypher makers/breakers.

    3. Re:CHecks and balances by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      There is a lot that is thought to be unknown about the NSA. The running joke for the longest of time was that NSA stood for No Such Agency. It wasn't until relatively recently (1990s) the government commonly acknowledged it existed as a real agency. It was created by a memo to the director of the CIA, so for a while, it might not have legitimately existed as a government agency.

      Part of their tasks besides cypher makers/breakers, is signals intelligence including covert operations in order to secure points of listening for foreign and terrorist entities (ivory bell for instance). They have been dispatched as parts of several different organizations at the same time while operating on their own independent organization possibly leading to confusion to what they actually do. This combined with the the agency largely being hidden/not widely known about is probably why there is so much mystery and conspiracy surrounding it (there is a lot of conspiracy). A lot of that has been debunked and a lot has been ignored and a lot is pure fiction created for artistic references in movies and books.

      I was hoping people would get the No Such Agency reference as it is now a widely known secrete agency.

  20. FBI Ignores Internal Govt corruption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I think the FBI should be spending it's time on internal government corruption.

    1. Re:FBI Ignores Internal Govt corruption by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 1

      Since I have no mod points to give, I offer you my earnest agreement. Funny, how the internal stuff just slips by, and how much the legal-system and the sports industry have in common. But I must correct you on one minor detail; they don't ignore it so much as they protect it.

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  21. Knock Knock Knocking on Spookys Door! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Nobody Seems To Notice and Nobody Seems To Care - Government & Stealth Malware

    In Response To Slashdot Article: Former Pentagon Analyst: China Has Backdoors To 80% of Telecoms 87

    How many rootkits does the US[2] use officially or unofficially?

    How much of the free but proprietary software in the US spies on you?

    Which software would that be?

    Visit any of the top freeware sites in the US, count the number of thousands or millions of downloads of free but proprietary software, much of it works, again on a proprietary Operating System, with files stored or in transit.

    How many free but proprietary programs have you downloaded and scanned entire hard drives, flash drives, and other media? Do you realize you are giving these types of proprietary programs complete access to all of your computer's files on the basis of faith alone?

    If you are an atheist, the comparison is that you believe in code you cannot see to detect and contain malware on the basis of faith! So you do believe in something invisible to you, don't you?

    I'm now going to touch on a subject most anti-malware, commercial or free, developers will DELETE on most of their forums or mailing lists:

    APT malware infecting and remaining in BIOS, on PCI and AGP devices, in firmware, your router (many routers are forced to place backdoors in their firmware for their government) your NIC, and many other devices.

    Where are the commercial or free anti-malware organizations and individual's products which hash and compare in the cloud and scan for malware for these vectors? If you post on mailing lists or forums of most anti-malware organizations about this threat, one of the following actions will apply: your post will be deleted and/or moved to a hard to find or 'deleted/junk posts' forum section, someone or a team of individuals will mock you in various forms 'tin foil hat', 'conspiracy nut', and my favorite, 'where is the proof of these infections?' One only needs to search Google for these threats and they will open your malware world view to a much larger arena of malware on devices not scanned/supported by the scanners from these freeware sites. This point assumed you're using the proprietary Microsoft Windows OS. Now, let's move on to Linux.

    The rootkit scanners for Linux are few and poor. If you're lucky, you'll know how to use chkrootkit (but you can use strings and other tools for analysis) and show the strings of binaries on your installation, but the results are dependent on your capability of deciphering the output and performing further analysis with various tools or in an environment such as Remnux Linux. None of these free scanners scan the earlier mentioned areas of your PC, either! Nor do they detect many of the hundreds of trojans and rootkits easily available on popular websites and the dark/deep web.

    Compromised defenders of Linux will look down their nose at you (unless they are into reverse engineering malware/bad binaries, Google for this and Linux and begin a valuable education!) and respond with a similar tone, if they don't call you a noob or point to verifying/downloading packages in a signed repo/original/secure source or checking hashes, they will jump to conspiracy type labels, ignore you, lock and/or shuffle the thread, or otherwise lead you astray from learning how to examine bad binaries. The world of Linux is funny in this way, and I've been a part of it for many years. The majority of Linux users, like the Windows users, will go out of their way to lead you and say anything other than pointing you to information readily available on detailed binary file analysis.

    Don't let them get

  22. WTF were their hours BEFORE? by crazyjj · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hello, you've reached the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If this call is cybercrime-related, please call back during business hours from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern Standard time, Monday through Friday. If this call is related to a non-cybercrime investigation, please press "1" now for an agent. If this call is related to bizarre serial killers or UFO phenomena, please press "2" now for our X-files division. Or press "0" for an operator at any time.

    No need to leave a callback number, we already know who you are.

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  23. Benghazi solved then? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> the FBI is now hunting hackers 24/7

    Is that because we finally figured out what happened in Benghazi?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444620104578008922056244096.html

    How 'bout we figure out who let Sean Smith down first, eh?

  24. Subnets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    24/7? what kind of sick subnet is that? o_O

  25. FBI going 7/24 on the Red Bull Gang? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    All I can say now is, "BUY shares in powered donut stocks, BUY, BUY, BUY!"

  26. I predict.... by runeghost · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that this will be almost as effective as the War On Drugs. At least for getting the FBI more funding and more power to ignore/violate/destroy civil liberties.

  27. Yup! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's 1995 again...

  28. Shit assignment by hemo_jr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Notice to screw-ups, midnight to 8 am shifts have now opened up in hacker hunting squad. Get your act together or you will be assigned.

    1. Re:Shit assignment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notice to screw-ups, midnight to 8 am shifts have now opened up in hacker hunting squad. Get your act together or you will be assigned.

      Of all the posts so far, yours is the most deserving of a +5 Insightful. Or funny, because it is indeed both.

      To those who don't RTFA, all this is about is the FBI opening up a new operations team. "FBI Cyber Division’s Cyber Watch command at Headquarters" will be available 24/7 as a sort of 'helpdesk' resource. Yawn.

  29. They or someone need to kill the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...eclipsemediaonline fucks.

    I would love to see the bastards behind eclipsemediaonline with their guts strewn out on the streets like the garbage they are. Spammers and adware writers need to be subjected to torture and medical experimentation as well as organ harvesting. We should also make it a habit to assassinate, but preferable capture and torture, people in foreign nations who are engaged in this crap as well. It's folly to think that all human life has value. If it's okay to bomb foreign nations into rubble then it's just as well to destroy these "people".

    1. Re:They or someone need to kill the... by Froggels · · Score: 2

      They aren't "people". They are "foreign nationals". Please get your terminology straight.

  30. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How 'bout we figure out who let Sean Smith down first, eh?

    He's too white. Now if it were Saint Trayboon Martin then the FBI would be all over it.

  31. Did you mean: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donut Bureau?

  32. Too bad the FBI culture is anti-geek by cpghost · · Score: 1

    The problem with every law enforcement agency, FBI included, is that they have an extremely geek-hostile culture. Could you imagine any red-blooded hacker doing work for and at the FBI, while at the same time being forced to wear those ugly black suits, tie, etc., and bow to the will of seriously brain dead lawyers higher up in the hierarchy? Sure, with some serious pay, the FBI could attract some average security professionals, but the real hackers, those with the required skills and mentality, would stay light years away of any bureaucratic organization, unless temporarily for the purpose of penetrating its internal structures for fun and profit.

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    cpghost at Cordula's Web.
  33. Opinion on the role of government by ALeader71 · · Score: 1

    Like the printing press, government is both a benefit and a hazard. Taking down mafia style botnets and guarding against attacks on our interconnected and networked physical infrastructure is a good thing. Using the Patriot Act to snoop on our communications looking for keywords or suspicious activities is a bad thing. How this evolves requires constant monitoring by an informed voting populace.

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    Only the dead have seen the end of War. - Plato
    1. Re:Opinion on the role of government by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      "Like the printing press, government is both a benefit and a hazard."

      I think the benefit/hazard ratios of those two things are WAY out of balance.

      For the printing press, I'd put the benefit/hazard ratio at about 99.999. For government, it's about 7.15e-04.

      The printing press might have caused a few lost fingers in its day, but that's completely insignificant compared to the damage caused by government. Tens of millions of people tortured, murdered and imprisoned, trillions of dollars in property and environmental destruction and the theft of further trillions. We can put a few welfare programs and some scientific research into the benefit/hazard numerator however, so the ratio is non-zero.

  34. How about some 9-5 on white collar crime? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

    I wish they'd ignore some of the script kiddies vandalizing web pages and focus some of their resources on the "Epidemic of Fraud"(2003 FBI report) in the mortgage and financial markets. Maybe they could initiate some RICO investigations of the big banks due to the banks' well reported practice of forging and improperly notarizing thousands of lost note affidavits.

    1. Re:How about some 9-5 on white collar crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it's a lot easier to prosecute teenagers than white collar criminals entrenched in politically backed organizations.

  35. Their Pals At NSA and CIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..could easily give them a handle on the bot-net Mafia. NSA does have the "total net picture" and all they need to do is to do a bit of datamining to discover the mafia.
      But hey, the CIA wants to gather intelligence by taking over botnets !

    NSA data is being used to pressure those who voice their dissent with all the warmaking and the financial scams. Cybercrime is priority #69.

  36. Its always the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its always the same story. Instead of fixing the holes in the system just put everyone that see's the holes in jail. Security in obscurity is illogical.