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PayPal, Symantec Hacked In Anonymous November 5 Hacking Spree
New submitter Journe writes "Anonymous claims to have begun a hacking spree for the 5th of November. In their spree, they've laid waste to several Australian Government sites, and, for some reason, the site of Saturday Night Live. They also claim to have leaked VMware source code, along with user and employee info from Paypal and Symantec. There's some argument however that Anonymous is falsely taking claim for Symantec."
They also tried to deface Slashdot by correcting the spelling of "Symnatec", but the Slashdot editors kept them at bay.
and, for some reason, the site of Saturday Night Live
It's not broadcast here but 4 years ago it got media mention because of Tina Fey's Sarah Palin impersonation. Have they perhaps hurt the feelings of a particular candidate's supporters this time round?
Obviously this is the end of civilisation as we know it!
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
You would think a company like Symantec would be able to protect themselves against hacking..? Jeez.
by releasing user and employee data from paypal and others? So only us regular people actually suffer the consequences.. good move!
Think the paypal is a mistake, it's on the link to the imageshack & symanetc info, but no mention of it there.
Be seeing you...
Having no leadership, no structure, and no goal (beyond that afforded by the community politics of certain outspoken folks), Anonymous is free to rationalize anything however they like. There is no need for logic or restraint. In an orgy of solidarity, the "with us or against us" mentality reigns supreme. PayPal, MasterCard, government, and anybody else who opposes their attacks are just added to the list of targets.
To each individual, the notion that they could be doing more harm than good is offensive. They've already passed judgement on their enemies, and deemed them evil, and anybody who disagrees must be evil as well. Sure, PayPal, Symantec, and every other company have done some bad things in their history, and should not be lightly forgiven. However, it is important to remember that every individual has also done equally bad things, and should not be the sole judge and executioner of any person, corporation, idea, or organization.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
and, for some reason, the site of Saturday Night Live
So TFA thinks that Anonymous actually does things for solid and ponderable reasons, subject to logic ? Interesting...
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
They've already passed judgement on their enemies, and deemed them evil, and anybody who disagrees must be evil as well.
I see. So they're a religion.
Kind of makes you wonder at the level of maturity the average Anonymous member has.
Profile: pickly-faced youth, average age about 15.4 years, dwells in mum's basement, no sexual experience to speak of, no political sensibility, pot-smoking and rootbeer-swilling, more computing power at his fingertips than is good for him... or for you and me, that is.
There, FTFY.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
The VMware source is old and has been on Pirate Bay for six years. Nothing new there.
Your post is well thought out and your points elegantly stated, but I think I'll stick with "they're a big box of douches".
As for SNL, turns out that was an - Alcoholic - Anonymous who defaced their site. He had much to drink and thought it was a funny thing to do at the time.
Now that he has sobered up, he can't even "Remember, Remember The Fifth of November".
Mountain Dew-swilling*
Rootbeer has no caffeine.
Nobody cares what the CAPTCHA for your post was.
Let he who is without transgression launch the first low-orbit ion cannon.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
A few minutes of not being in the news, and they pull a stunt - a rather weak one at that which only reinforces the governments agenda of net surveillance.
Does that not make you question whether or not it is "anonymous" at all"? After all it does further many governments agendas in relation to the internet.
HTP (HackThePlanet) were responsible for ImageShack and Symantec: http://bin.par-anoia.net/?797d5dc59c69b7e5#lgN8gF9nPwZ+eFLKtVq7vfskyj6uatkrAB2VbsTfH54=
The US government (and, in fact, any government, political organisation etc) have the right to be part of Anonymous if they want to. It's the single biggest problem with any "anarchy", if all people are free to do what they want then this must include setting up a governmental system of whichever type they choose, be it dictatorship, democracy, or a dictatorship dressed up as a democracy. In this case the "anarchists" may well be assisting the political aims of their "enemy" who, for all Anonymous know, are also part of Anonymous.
With great anonymity comes great confusion as to which side is which.
Please consider this account deleted, I just can't be bothered with the spam anymore.
Ah, damn... my lack of US culture gave me away.
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
Yes, it seems to be a strange form of group intelligence, this hive. They are evolving into an entity of the desires and fears of the participants. I want to envision a throng of torch and pitchfork bearing peasants on the steps of $cientology , like when it began. Instead I see the usual bullshit that wears a subculture down to a cult of hardcores, while the others move on to the "NEXT BIG THING". In like a lion, out like a lamb. Mark my words.
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Can't get too upset about Anonymous. Think about it. Aren't drone strikes just like Anonymous hacks? They are acts of judgement and execution without due process wrought by anonymous people from a far away distance. Oh, and there is always collateral damage and victims can't mount a legal defense. If you want to call acts like that chicken-shit and douchy, then go ahead.
Barq's root beer has caffeine (although, less than half the amount in MD)
Sure, PayPal, Symantec, and every other company have done some bad things in their history, and should not be lightly forgiven. However, it is important to remember that every individual has also done equally bad things, and should not be the sole judge and executioner of any person, corporation, idea, or organization.
Really?
Really?
What was the last thing YOU did that was "equally bad" as the shitshow that is PayPal?
Or maybe you worked for Union Carbide and are responsible for the Bhopal disaster
99% of individuals will never have the opportunity to do anything "equally bad" as a multinational corporation.
Your kind of false equivalence is a weak attempt to minimize the negative effects of corporations on the citizenry.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
They are so secret you don't even know if you're a member or not, until it's too late!
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You've pretty much summed up most Slashdot users. They favour mostly one platform (Linux in this case) and in turn have a bias opinion on any competitor of their favourite platform.
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Who?
Posted Anonymously for obvious reasons.
Pray explain!
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
What was the last thing YOU did that was "equally bad" as the shitshow that is PayPal?
For starters, this morning, on my way to work, I took a place in line at an exit ramp, delaying and irritating a few hundred other cars slightly. I do that every morning. Under a very conservative estimate of only one hundred other people irritated daily, I've managed to annoy about 10% of my city (about 36,000 people total) slightly in a year. For comparison, how many people are irritated with PayPal, and how annoyed are they? How many years of traffic disruptions does it take to equal one PayPal?
99% of individuals will never have the opportunity to do anything "equally bad" as a multinational corporation.
Almost everyone is evil, in some small part. Yes, there are some that commit their trespasses all at once in heinous acts of negligence, apathy, or malevolence, but most "evil" effects come from individuals doing things they don't think are wrong. Small offenses like bringing home pens from work or delaying others' commute add up to a far greater total of distress in the world.
Your kind of false equivalence is a weak attempt to minimize the negative effects of corporations on the citizenry.
There is no false equivalence here. I am absolutely certain that my actions and inactions have resulted in somebody's death. I do hope that my death toll hasn't hit the 10,000 of the Bhopal disaster, but I can't be sure. I could indirectly be a homicidal maniac and not know it.
Let's suppose though, for argument's sake, that I am a pristine pinnacle of innocence, never having harmed anyone, directly or not. Do I now magically have the right to judge others and deem them worthy of attack? Am I qualified to assert that a civilian killed in a war is so important that anyone who stops encouraging the endless retelling of their story is to be condemned to eternal harassment, even if their support was withdrawn under duress? After all, that's the train of thought that made MasterCard a target for withdrawing support of WikiLeaks.
Anonymous does not seek justice. Anonymous is a vigilante group, attacking anyone for any perceived wrong, without the need or desire to dole out appropriate punishments to fit the crimes. Yes, multinational corporations do bad things. So do national corporations, local small businesses, nonprofit charities, religions, and individuals. That does not excuse anyone from causing harm to anyone else.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
With drone strikes, there is a public command and control structure that can be held accountable.
And there are often wedding guests that can act as witnesses.
And this got modded down because... it doesn't fit with the particular message that's convenient for the purposes of TPTB? That's the only thing I can think of...
I think you don't understand the rules of engagement. The Military is not a police force and the people they fight with are not civilians in the strict sense. Yes, drone strikes may be sent against non-governmental fighting forces but they are still armies and they are still at war with us and to insinuate that they are not is just wrong.
Napolitano needs to go. Vote accordingly tomorrow.
Um, no. Drone strikes are "just like" Anonymous hacks in the same sense that the Nazi invasion of Poland was just like knocking on your neighbors door to ask to borrow a cup of sugar. You can find things in common between the two, but it would be exceedingly idiotic to equate them as "just like" one another due to the similarities you find.
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
It's a Guy Fawkes reference. "Remember remember the 5th of November"
It'll be a V for Vendetta movie reference, more accurately.
Which is sort of derived in part from the whole Guy Fawkes thing, but I bet most of Anonymous have very little idea about anything outside of that film[1].
[1] I initially meant "anything about Guy Fawkes outside of that film", but I'll leave it as it stands.
I'm perfectly capable of getting upset about Anonymous vandalism and drone strikes thank-you-very-much.
Aw, look, the anonybots have taken offense.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
I'm relatively sure "they" has a long history of being used for a set of people without implying they're a specific group with any sort of organisation.
For instance: "Bakers are excellent. They make delicious things for me to eat."
If you think bakers are a more concrete group than Anonymous then you're kidding yourself. Anonymous is simply "anyone who identifies as Anonymous in some context".
For starters, this morning, on my way to work, I took a place in line at an exit ramp, delaying and irritating a few hundred other cars slightly. I do that every morning. Under a very conservative estimate of only one hundred other people irritated daily, I've managed to annoy about 10% of my city (about 36,000 people total) slightly in a year. For comparison, how many people are irritated with PayPal, and how annoyed are they? How many years of traffic disruptions does it take to equal one PayPal?
More false equivalency.
I assume you weren't intentionally setting out to irritate a few hundred people per day,
but even if you were, as a society we understand that rush hour is annoying and it is something we all deal with.
On the other hand, Paypal doesn't have to be a dick, intentionally or unintentionally.
The corporate honchos choose to create and enforce policies that are anti-consumer.
Almost everyone is evil, in some small part. Yes, there are some that commit their trespasses all at once in heinous acts of negligence, apathy, or malevolence, but most "evil" effects come from individuals doing things they don't think are wrong. Small offenses like bringing home pens from work or delaying others' commute add up to a far greater total of distress in the world.
More false equivalence.
Taking home a pen from work is not the same as going on a shooting spree.
Delaying others' commute is not the same as intentionally hiding a manufacturing defect that leads to deaths.
'"evil" effects from individuals doing things they don't think are wrong' is not the same as corporations intentionally pursuing harmful policies.
Yes, multinational corporations do bad things. So do national corporations, local small businesses, nonprofit charities, religions, and individuals. That does not excuse anyone from causing harm to anyone else.
Man, you're really pushing this theme.
You start with a national corporation and somehow end up equating them to an individual.
That argument would stand up fine in a philosophy class, but in the real world,
99.9% of us will never do anything that leads to a multi-million dollar settlement with a Federal Agency.
Every individual is not "equally bad" as "PayPal, Symantec, and every other company"
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
If they are an army you are at war with then why don't the laws of war, such as treatment of POWs an alleged war criminals, apply?
The US wants it both ways. Fight a war but declare the enemy soldiers to be civilian terrorists who no rights.
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Sadly, you're more than likely correct that Anon isn't well versed enough in history to realize it's based off of actual events.
I wouldn't doubt it if they all started blasting the 1812 Overture during this hack spree.
Terrorists are scum of the earth. You have to fight fire with fire. They use asymmetric warfare and this is how we compensate.
Ah *Lieberman*!
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
That's fixable by dissolving no-doz (or other brand) caffeine pills in it first. Or powdered caffeine.
Not a sentence!